Subject: Re: The K10D Has Arrived!
The problem with 4/3rds is that the crop is so extreme that using
non-telephoto lenses via adaptors is an exercise in
frustration. Canon
offers you full-frame and a more reasonable crop (1.3x or
1.6x) that at
least leave your wide angles semi-wide
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Sent: 13 September 2006 00:52
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Subject: Re: The K10D Has Arrived!
The problem with 4/3rds is that the crop is so extreme that using
non-telephoto lenses via adaptors is an exercise in
frustration. Canon
offers you full-frame and a more
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, P. J. Alling wrote:
Bob W wrote:
I won't use anything wider than 85mm (135 equiv) on 4/3. If I stick
with it I will buy the appropriate lenses.
Actually with the 4/3 crop factor that's more like an ~170mm on 35mm.
I drafted the same answer then realised he meant that
You can choose PEF or DNGG according to the informations from Steve's Digicam :D
2006/9/12, Douglas Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear All,
Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests),
but it appears the K10D has arrived:
No waiting for Adobe to update ACR, compatibility with PS CS and ACR 2.4
rather than needing CS2 and ACR 3.5 or 3.6 for support as well as being
a documented standard instead of proprietary format.
-Adam
Jack Davis wrote:
Thibouille,
You are obviously excited over the idea that you may
Thibouille,
You are obviously excited over the idea that you may chose either PEF
or DNGG with the K10D. Why? :-?
Thanks!
Jack
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You can choose PEF or DNGG according to the informations from Steve's
Digicam :D
2006/9/12, Douglas Newman [EMAIL
are they giving away free exclamation marks?
I can't see where the killer feature is that everybody was on about.
What is it?
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I'm pretty sure it was the 22 bit A/D for Aaron.
It's SR and a large buffer for me.
-Adam
Bob W wrote:
are they giving away free exclamation marks?
I can't see where the killer feature is that everybody was on about.
What is it?
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Indeed. The question is: normal DNG or compressed DNG. 12 or
16bit? 4 possibilities :D
2006/9/12, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No waiting for Adobe to update ACR, compatibility with PS CS and ACR 2.4
rather than needing CS2 and ACR 3.5 or 3.6 for support as well as being
a documented standard
Aaron started it with his excitement about the 22-bit A/D processor, but
for others there's an entire shopping list full of features that many have
been hoping for. Individually they're not necessarily big deal, but
collectively, in one package at what seems to be a very good price, is
definitely
And, of course, the smaller file size, allowing for more images on an SD
card, perhaps faster writes to the card, and space savings on your computer
hard disk without having to convert the in camera RAW files.
Shel
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From: Adam Maas
No waiting for Adobe to update ACR,
Thibouille wrote:
Indeed. The question is: normal DNG or compressed DNG. 12 or
16bit? 4 possibilities :D
Compressed 14-bit.
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For myself, Shake Reduction, the 22-bit processor, rear remote control,
bigger/faster buffer, ability to shoot DNG, pentaprism finder, dust/water
resistance, and backward and forward lens compatibility really make this a
great package, and the price makes it affordable, and, therefore, even
Bob W wrote:
are they giving away free exclamation marks?
I can't see where the killer feature is that everybody was on about.
What is it?
It is a misunderstanding of what a 22-bit A/D can do...
- Toralf
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Mark Roberts wrote:
Thibouille wrote:
Indeed. The question is: normal DNG or compressed DNG. 12 or
16bit? 4 possibilities :D
Compressed 14-bit.
Oops. make that compressed 12-bit!
(Sorry if I caused any medical problems there!)
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Cory Papenfuss wrote:
- If 1600 ISO is the highest it goes, I expect to see more noise at
comparable sensitivity as the 6 Mp cameras.
I expect noise at ISO 1600 to be excellent. I expect noise performance
to be even better at sensitivities below ISO 100.
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I wouldn't be suprised if noise at 1600 is at least as minimal as the current
cameras, perhaps better. And with SR, an extra stop or more of low-light
performance will be possible. I've never used 3200 on my D. I've always been
able to get what I need at 1600 with a fast lens. I'm sure the 10D
Douglas Newman wrote:
Dear All,
Maybe someone's sent this in already (I get digests),
but it appears the K10D has arrived:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/pentax_09132006_k10d_pr.html?AType=0
Looks like it has gone again. Link gives me a dead box on a black page.
Someone at Steve's
So speaks somebody who has perhaps just bought into the wrong system.
John
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:36:13 +0100, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are they giving away free exclamation marks?
I can't see where the killer feature is that everybody was on about.
What is it?
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Cheers,
Bob
On 12/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
the wring system
LOL
The wringing-of-hands system ;-
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On 12/9/06, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:
So speaks somebody who has perhaps just bought into the wrong system.
Yeah me too John. I bought into the wring system over three years ago ;-)
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Oh, OK now I get it. Knew you couldn't have hit a wrong key. ;]]
Jack
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On 12/9/06, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed:
the wring system
LOL
The wringing-of-hands system ;-
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Sent: 12 September 2006 22:37
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Subject: Re: The K10D Has Arrived!
So speaks somebody who has perhaps just bought into the wrong
system.
John
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:36:13 +0100, Bob W
[EMAIL
I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax lenses and
gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of course, allows
(and promotes) that their current cameras can use older lenses.
Shel
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From: Bob W
However, I do also have over £20,000-worth
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Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00
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Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived!
I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax
lenses and
gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax
On Sep 12, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Bob W wrote:
However, I do also have over £20,000-worth of film equipment (new
prices - I'd probably get about 30p for it now), and I want to be able
to use some of that on my digital equipment - does Pentax have
anything that would let me do that?
If your
slapping forehead I forgot about those adapters. I wonder if there are
any Contax - Pentax adapters.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bob W
There are Contax-Olympus adapters, and Contax-Canon adapters. The 4/3s
system is quite good like that. Obviously it has its drawbacks
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Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00
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Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived!
I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax
lenses and
gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of
course
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00
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Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived!
I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax
lenses and
gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of
course, allows
(and promotes
PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff
Sent: 13 September 2006 00:00
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Subject: RE: The K10D Has Arrived!
I don't think any DSLR will allow you the use of your Contax
lenses and
gear, if that's what you were getting at, Bob. Pentax, of
course, allows
(and promotes
I don't think so. I don't see any killer feature, either.
As I said in another post, I don't see what 22 bits could be
needed for. 16 bits instead of 12 would be useful to guard
against quantisation or rounding noise, but that's about it.
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 10:37:19PM +0100, John Forbes
On 9/12/06 7:54 PM, Paul Stenquist, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, you can adapt almost anything to a Canon due to the size of the
mount.
And a shorter mount register.
Ken
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Unlikely. The Contax/Yashica bayonet mount is only .04 deeper
register than the Pentax K-mount.
G
On Sep 12, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
slapping forehead I forgot about those adapters. I wonder if
there are
any Contax - Pentax adapters.
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Really nice!
I will definitely get one. It has everything I have been looking for
(well, except full frame, but that's another story) and all my
fantastic A* lenses will work nicely.
I've been very close to jumping the ship many times but I am glad I
waited (all
these years, heh). Why I did I
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