Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote: Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens. I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the condition. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
That's a horse of a different color. You really can't compare the asking price of a Pentax Medium Format lens from a private seller with KEH's price for a third party 35mm camera lens. On 9/12/2013 11:49 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/236840-sale-pentax-67-400mm-f4.html Of courseno automation...larger...heavier...but faster at least. :) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote: On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote: Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens. I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the condition. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
I can too! :P On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: That's a horse of a different color. You really can't compare the asking price of a Pentax Medium Format lens from a private seller with KEH's price for a third party 35mm camera lens. On 9/12/2013 11:49 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/236840-sale-pentax-67-400mm-f4.html Of courseno automation...larger...heavier...but faster at least. :) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote: On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote: Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens. I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the condition. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-equipment-sale/236840-sale-pentax-67-400mm-f4.html Of courseno automation...larger...heavier...but faster at least. :) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote: On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote: Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens. I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the condition. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
On 9/12/2013 9:32 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2013-09-12 1:37, Zos Xavius wrote: Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. I don't know about that specific lens, but I have a different year or model of the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro (mine looks different) and it's a good lens. I've never bought a UG (ugly) rated item from Keh, but I've bought numerous BGN (bargain) rated items, and been pleasantly surprised each time by the condition. I once owned a Sigma 400 f4.6 APO Macro. There were several other SIgma 400mm lenses around before that one, but the APO Macro was highly regarded. The others were not held in such high esteem. Sigma used to have a very bad reputation for quality - back in the 90's - but IMO they really turned that around. That is one of the few lenses that I sold that I had wished I held onto. I wound up with a Tokina ATX 400 f5.6 which was regarded as being comparable in quality to the Sigma. In my opinion it is very close in qualty - at f8 - but lags at f5.6. Again - there were other variants of the Tokina lens - the SD for instance - but the ATX was the latest and the most highly regarded. I bought a replacement Tokina for $425 a few years ago. I tested both the Sigma and the Tokina with teleconverters and did not find the results to be satisfactory - they are already pretty slow at f5.6. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 03:37:57PM -0400, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE For about a C-note, it's probably worth getting it to find out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
OhI thought that ugly lenses were still ok optically. Yeah, you are right it probably has fungus or something really awful. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
Non manufacturer 400s average $1500? Not on this planet. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Why is this 400mm going for so cheap?
Oh, I was looking at pentaxforums prices and saw 1500. I swear pentaxforums reviews manipulate prices. So you are saying that the 400 is worth less? Interesting. I'd actually love to pick up a 400 even if it said sigma on it. Those lenses were supposedly very good and work well with matching TCs. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Non manufacturer 400s average $1500? Not on this planet. Paul via phone On Sep 11, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Thanks - I'll let you know how it checks it. stan On Sep 11, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Darren Addy wrote: I'm with John on this one. Somebody ELSE can have THAT steal. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: KEH UG - Ugly Very rough looking. Multiple impressions in metal, excessive finish loss and brassing. Glass will have marks, fungus and/or haze which will affect picture quality.* which will affect picture quality says it all for me. It's not might affect picture quality, it's *WILL* affect picture quality. If KEH says it's only worth $90, I'll take their word for it. On 9/11/2013 3:37 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: They average $1500 used usually. $90 seems like quite the steal, ugly condition or not. http://www.keh.com/camera/Pentax-Manual-Focus-Non-Mfg-Fixed-Focal-Length-Lenses/1/sku-PK080090382060?r=FE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
