Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread Sandy Harris
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > What is the difference in virtual weight of a pack (say, ten lbs) being > carried bys omeone walking on level ground and the same person carrying > the same pack up a flight of stairs? > > I'm sure I'm not using the

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
> On 25 Jun 2017, at 17:16, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 25/6/17, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> So if you just stand still there's no energy spent? > > Steve's Law: > > A body at rest tends to fall asleep. > > True. > I think we are now straying into the

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread Alan C
Restless leg syndrome? Alan C -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:48 PM To: Steve Cottrell ; Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - "as if" physics question thought you'd like to know that :-) ann On 6/25/2017 12:40 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread P. J. Alling
That is a complicating factor, you spend energy, whether you want to or not. If you stand still there's no additional energy spent, and my calculations may be off by an order of magnitude. I didn't bother to check my work. On 6/25/2017 7:01 AM, Jostein wrote: P.J., So if you just stand

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread David J Brooks
well done Dave On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > A sensual low key portrait of Araina. NSFW. > > http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ILryrLGtq_Y0 > > 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8, at f/4, 1/125th sec, ISO 100. > > One big soft light feathered across

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank, Ken. I was going for a more mysterious, less revealing look in this shot. Did you see my previous one? http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2017-June/436446.html On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > Nice subject and pose but I wish the light was

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/6/17, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: >So if you just stand still there's no energy spent? Steve's Law: A body at rest tends to fall asleep. True. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele
thought you'd like to know that :-) ann On 6/25/2017 12:40 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/6/17, ann sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: I was happy to learn that even asleep we burn calories Here here! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Dan. On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Quite pleasing. I think the black and red carry a warm and exciting > atmosphere. > > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Bruce

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread Jostein
Den 25.06.2017 04.04, skrev P. J. Alling: E = mc^2 probably comes into it somewhere... Oh geez, I hope not, or else Ann is atomic powered. We all are, P.J. What we don't want is to convert Ann from mass to energy. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Acropolis Amphitheater

2017-06-25 Thread Alan C
Update: I subsequently read it was restored from it's ruined state in 1950 & is regularly used for music concerts. Alan C -Original Message- From: Alan C Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:08 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - Acropolis Amphitheater Still in remarkably

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread Jostein
P.J., So if you just stand still there's no energy spent? E = 2.268 kg x 9.81 N/kg x 0 m :-) Jostein Den 25.06.2017 05.25, skrev P. J. Alling: I don't think that the comparison works, exactly. The amount of energy required to lift 5lbs 7 inches (about the height of a stair step), is

Re: PESO Orient Star

2017-06-25 Thread Jack Davis
Beautifully sharp and done in front of an ideal background and lighting. I'm guessing that you considered "doing something" with those leaves in the upper left corner. I'd have to do a version with them out to get past wondering. J - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist"

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The one on the right looks scared or grunpy. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > These kids didn’t seem anxious to strike out on their own. > >

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:43:46 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: These kids didn’t seem anxious to strike out on their own. https://www.photo.net/photo/18402228/fledgling-sparrows great sharpness in this photo. what was the ISO?, there seems to be a lot of video noise

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Your istDS chokes at ISO 800? :-) Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > > Yes, what J.C. said, Paul. > > J > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "J.C. O'Connell" > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
Crisp capture - nice Paul. -Original Message- >From: Paul Stenquist >Subject: PESO Waiting for Mom > >These kids didn’t seem anxious to strike out on their own. > >https://www.photo.net/photo/18402228/fledgling-sparrows -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I know. I had two istD. I was being facetious. BTW, I have a good K5 with battery grip you can have for $200. It's good to at least ISO 3200. 6400 is useable as well. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:53 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:41:53

Re: Error 404

2017-06-25 Thread mike wilson
> On 24 June 2017 at 23:47 Jack Davis wrote: > > > Yes, can be. He mumbles a lot and > seems to assume I actually > understand him. > We get along swell and if I hand him > some money, he goes away. Never give him clothes, or he'll be gone forever. > > J > > On Jun 24,

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yeah, I think they were both scared, maybe just hours out of the nest. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > The one on the right looks scared or grunpy. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > >> On Sun,

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Ken. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > > Crisp capture - nice Paul. > > > -Original Message- >> From: Paul Stenquist >> Subject: PESO Waiting for Mom >> >> These kids didn’t seem anxious to strike out

Re: Peso-Hairy with Stubble

2017-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Impressive. How big it that tree? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote: > Another one from 2010. I am calling this one Hairy with Stubble. > >

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
As always, excellent. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Thank you, Dave! > > >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> well done >> >> Dave >> >>> On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Bruce

PESO Orient Star

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
The deer usually eat these before I can photograph them, but I think they’re distracted by my suet cages, as they haven’t eaten any lilies or bee balm so far this year. https://www.photo.net/photo/18402221/orient-star -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Acropolis Amphitheater

2017-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great image!; I especially like the perspective, looking beyond the ruin to the city. I was there in 2016, but was not able to get that kind of image of the Amphitheater. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:49 PM, Rick Womer

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Jack Davis
Yes, what J.C. said, Paul. J - Original Message - From: "J.C. O'Connell" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" , "Paul Stenquist" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:21:43 PM Subject: Re: PESO Waiting for Mom On Sun, 25 Jun 2017

Re: PESO 2017 - 075 - GDG

2017-06-25 Thread Bob W-PDML
You can't have too many Eiffel Towers > On 25 Jun 2017, at 20:30, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Felipe returned from his travels to London and Paris. He brought back > souvenirs... > > https://flic.kr/p/Vxxz4y > > enjoy! > G > — > The trouble with being punctual is

Re: PESO Orient Star

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Beautiful, Paul. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 6/25/2017 12:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jun 25, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: That is an exceptionally vivid image, and nicely composed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jun

Re: GESO - Photo Exhibit

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Absolutely fantastic, Mark! Some of the flowers are very Georgia O'Keefie. But I really love the twisty twigs. Although, actually, all are great. Marnie aka Doe :-) Nature creates an endless variety of shapes and colors. On 6/15/2017 6:39 PM, Mark C wrote: I have a little photo exhibit

Re: Peso-Hairy with Stubble

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
That's nice. A dramatic image of a majestic tree. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote: > > Another one from 2010. I am calling this one Hairy with Stubble. > > http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/hairy.htm > > Marnie aka Doe :-) >

Re: OT - "as if" physics question

2017-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele
in my case, it would be more like restless cat syndrome a On 6/25/2017 1:05 PM, Alan C wrote: Restless leg syndrome? Alan C -Original Message- From: ann sanfedele Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:48 PM To: Steve Cottrell ; Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - "as if" physics

PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
These kids didn’t seem anxious to strike out on their own. https://www.photo.net/photo/18402228/fledgling-sparrows -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Error 404

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:19:15 -0400, Jack Davis wrote: Thanks Mike, there may come a time. J - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37:49 AM Subject: Re:

Re: PESO Orient Star

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:28:57 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: The deer usually eat these before I can photograph them, but I think they’re distracted by my suet cages, as they haven’t eaten any lilies or bee balm so far this year.

Re: PESO Waiting for Mom

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 16:41:53 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Your istDS chokes at ISO 800? :-) Paul via phone On Jun 25, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Yes, what J.C. said, Paul. J - Original Message - From: "J.C.

Re: Peso-Hairy with Stubble

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Thanks, Paul. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 6/25/2017 1:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's nice. A dramatic image of a majestic tree. Paul via phone On Jun 25, 2017, at 4:35 PM, Marnie (aka Doe) wrote: Another one from 2010. I am calling this one Hairy with Stubble.

Re: PESO Orient Star

2017-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is an exceptionally vivid image, and nicely composed. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > The deer usually eat these before I can photograph them, but I think > they’re distracted by my

Re: Error 404

2017-06-25 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks Mike, there may come a time. J - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 11:37:49 AM Subject: Re: Error 404 > On 24 June 2017 at 23:47 Jack Davis wrote: >

PESO 2017 - 075 - GDG

2017-06-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Felipe returned from his travels to London and Paris. He brought back souvenirs... https://flic.kr/p/Vxxz4y enjoy! G — The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO Orient Star

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Dan. I was out shooting birds and saw this in a good location. It's 630mm focal length, so I stopped down to f11 to get some DOF. Tripod. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > That is an exceptionally vivid image, and nicely

Re: PESO - Acropolis Amphitheater

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:28:48 -0400, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Great image!; I especially like the perspective, looking beyond the ruin to the city. I was there in 2016, but was not able to get that kind of image of the Amphitheater. Dan Matyola

Re: Error 404

2017-06-25 Thread mike wilson
> On 25 June 2017 at 20:23 "J.C. O'Connell" wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 15:19:15 -0400, Jack Davis > wrote: > > > Thanks Mike, there may come a time. > > > > J > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "mike wilson"

Re: PESO -- The Far Shore.

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Very nice, Peter. Like the contrasting white of houses and birds. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 6/21/2017 6:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A very nice composition -- made more vivid by the bird. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 6:49 PM, P. J.

Peso-Hairy with Stubble

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Another one from 2010. I am calling this one Hairy with Stubble. http://www.mapphotography.org/PAWS/pages/hairy.htm Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thank you, Dave! On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > well done > > Dave > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> A sensual low key portrait of Araina. NSFW. >> >>

Re: Peso-Hairy with Stubble

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Thanks, Dan. Hard to remember, but as big as a small Redwood, 5-8 feet around. Although, looking at it, it is a pine. I am very fond of pines too. It looks like two trunks to me, with a part that may have been burned out and then grown over. I.E. after that it split into two trunks. I know I

Re: PESO - a profile

2017-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
Really like the stark simplicity ! -Original Message- >From: Bruce Walker >Subject: PESO - a profile > >Kind of a profile portrait. > >http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IW03.16ZZ6_M > >(Completely SFW, in case you're worried.) > >645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8,

Re: Dos PESOS - "available seating" and "a real page turner"

2017-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks JAck and Marnie! ann On 6/25/2017 11:13 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Like the casual camera moment style, Ann. J - Original Message - From: "Marnie (aka Doe)" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:06:19 PM Subject: Re: Dos

PESO - a profile

2017-06-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Kind of a profile portrait. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IW03.16ZZ6_M (Completely SFW, in case you're worried.) 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8, at f/4, 1/125th sec, ISO 100. One big soft light feathered across the subject, and a grid-focussed one on the background. -- -bmw -- PDML

Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread Bill
So I saw one of these: http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is? thanks bill -- PDML

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread Zos Xavius
edition=addition. long day. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > http://www.forgottenfiberglass.com/and-now-for-something-completely-different/the-continental-kit-that-tire-on-the-back-by-rick-feibusch/ > > I think this might shed some light on it. At first I

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread Zos Xavius
http://www.forgottenfiberglass.com/and-now-for-something-completely-different/the-continental-kit-that-tire-on-the-back-by-rick-feibusch/ I think this might shed some light on it. At first I thought that was an aftermarket edition, but ford did offer that bumper as a package. It looks like that

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill wrote: So I saw one of these: http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell me what the

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other than to mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on period boats. Paul via phone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > >> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread Jack Davis
Edsel ? J Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other than to > mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on period boats. > > Paul via phone > >>> On Jun

Re: Dos PESOS - "available seating" and "a real page turner"

2017-06-25 Thread Jack Davis
Like the casual camera moment style, Ann. J - Original Message - From: "Marnie (aka Doe)" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 8:06:19 PM Subject: Re: Dos PESOS - "available seating" and "a real page turner" You have a way

Re: PESO - 'Robin Newbies'

2017-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
Shhh. Quiet. Looks like you are disturbing them. No not really, I was shooting from a ditance with a 300mm on my K-3. Thanks for commenting. A few days after this the entire nest of 4 young robins was cleaned out by a group of crows, not only ending their life but ruining my chance to

Re: Dos PESOS - "available seating" and "a real page turner"

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
You have a way with chairs, ann. You make them quite poignant. This is not your best chair shot, but it's still a keeper. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 6/19/2017 11:26 AM, Mark C wrote: On 6/18/2017 11:14 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: Ok - I got two more shots from my one day outing... just stuff that

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Paul. On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > As always, excellent. > > Paul via phone > >> On Jun 25, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Thank you, Dave! >> >> >>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM, David J

Re: PESO - portrait study

2017-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
Did you see my previous one? No, I hadn't. The lighting/exposure is really spot on but I prefer the pose in http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/ILryrLGtq_Y0 Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker"

Re: June PUG is up

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
Great PUG! Love mountains. They are all good, but two jumped out at me: Jack's Cathedral Ridge, because of the contrasting colors. And Ken's Mountain Waves because it's so abstracted it doesn't even have to be a photo. But great PUG all around. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 6/10/2017 10:20 PM,

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:43:52 -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other than to mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on period boats. Paul via phone On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell

Re: PESO - dung moss

2017-06-25 Thread Marnie (aka Doe)
What he said. But I could have lived without the backstory. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) On 6/18/2017 3:43 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Fascinating. And a striking composition, Paul via phone On Jun 18, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks Dan! Jostein Den 17. juni

Re: June PUG is up

2017-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
Thanks for commenting Marnie - glad you liked it - isolate, simplify and define. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Marnie (aka Doe)" Subject: Re: June PUG is up Great PUG! Love mountains. They are all

Re: Stupid car question

2017-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire out of the trunk and give more room in the trunk. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Bill" Subject: Stupid car question So I saw