Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
Yeah, that's how I've been doing it for something like twelve years. I think that it's just the wide world of view and shallow focus so that the camera keeps finding something like writing on the background to focus on . On December 4, 2019 8:12:46 AM PST, Paul Sorenson wrote: >From your reply below it seems like you have the customization for the >AF button on the "CANCEL AF" setting which sets the camera to manual >focus when the AF button is pressed - but only when continuing to press > >the AF button. It will remain in manual as long as you hold down the >AF >button but once you release it the camera reverts back to AF with the >shutter release button. Is it possible that's what's happening for >you? > >-p > >On 12/3/2019 4:04 AM, Larry Colen wrote: >>> On Dec 3, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Ralf R Radermacher >wrote: >>> >>> Am 03.12.19 um 00:40 schrieb Larry Colen: Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I >keep getting all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the >wall... >>> I've solved this prob by selecting spot focus in the centre of the >>> image, taking the focussing function away from the trigger, and >putting >>> it on the AF button. >>> >>> This way, you put the object you want to focus on smack in the >centre of >>> the image, push the AF button and then reframe to get the shot you >want. >>> Stop down a little and you're usually good for a few shots without >>> having to re-focus each time. >> I pretty much do the same thing, but differently. I have the AF >button set to lock out AF, so I’ll depress the shutter until I get >focus then lock it with the AF button. Same thing, but in normal >conditions I don’t have to think about explicitly focusing. I was >using the 35/1.4 rather than the 31/1.8 in the low light explicitly >because I needed the extra 2/3 of a stop, stopping down a couple of >stops would have been counterproductive. :-) >> >> >>> Ralf >>> >>> -- >>> Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany >>> Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >>> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >>> Web : http://www.fotoralf.de >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and follow the directions. >>> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com >> >> >> >> >-- >Paul Sorenson >Studio1941 > >Sooner or later "different" scares people. > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
From your reply below it seems like you have the customization for the AF button on the "CANCEL AF" setting which sets the camera to manual focus when the AF button is pressed - but only when continuing to press the AF button. It will remain in manual as long as you hold down the AF button but once you release it the camera reverts back to AF with the shutter release button. Is it possible that's what's happening for you? -p On 12/3/2019 4:04 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 3, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 03.12.19 um 00:40 schrieb Larry Colen: Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I keep getting all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the wall... I've solved this prob by selecting spot focus in the centre of the image, taking the focussing function away from the trigger, and putting it on the AF button. This way, you put the object you want to focus on smack in the centre of the image, push the AF button and then reframe to get the shot you want. Stop down a little and you're usually good for a few shots without having to re-focus each time. I pretty much do the same thing, but differently. I have the AF button set to lock out AF, so I’ll depress the shutter until I get focus then lock it with the AF button. Same thing, but in normal conditions I don’t have to think about explicitly focusing. I was using the 35/1.4 rather than the 31/1.8 in the low light explicitly because I needed the extra 2/3 of a stop, stopping down a couple of stops would have been counterproductive. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
Am 03.12.19 um 11:04 schrieb Larry Colen: Same thing, but in normal conditions I don’t have to think about explicitly focusing. After a short while, you won't even have to think about it. It takes next to no time and my rate of out-of-focus shots has been reduced dramatically. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
> On Dec 3, 2019, at 1:27 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 03.12.19 um 00:40 schrieb Larry Colen: >> Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I keep getting >> all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the wall... > > I've solved this prob by selecting spot focus in the centre of the > image, taking the focussing function away from the trigger, and putting > it on the AF button. > > This way, you put the object you want to focus on smack in the centre of > the image, push the AF button and then reframe to get the shot you want. > Stop down a little and you're usually good for a few shots without > having to re-focus each time. I pretty much do the same thing, but differently. I have the AF button set to lock out AF, so I’ll depress the shutter until I get focus then lock it with the AF button. Same thing, but in normal conditions I don’t have to think about explicitly focusing. I was using the 35/1.4 rather than the 31/1.8 in the low light explicitly because I needed the extra 2/3 of a stop, stopping down a couple of stops would have been counterproductive. :-) > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Web : http://www.fotoralf.de > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
Am 03.12.19 um 00:40 schrieb Larry Colen: Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I keep getting all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the wall... I've solved this prob by selecting spot focus in the centre of the image, taking the focussing function away from the trigger, and putting it on the AF button. This way, you put the object you want to focus on smack in the centre of the image, push the AF button and then reframe to get the shot you want. Stop down a little and you're usually good for a few shots without having to re-focus each time. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 10:27 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: > > I may be misunderstanding your problem, but have you tried using the spot > focus function instead of the Select-1, locking the focus on your main > subject and re-composing as necessary? I’m not sure what the difference between spot focus and selecting the center focus spot. But that’s basically what I try to do, and I was still having the problem. > I don't use any of the multiple focus point or Select modes unless I'm > shooting sports with AF-C. With dancing (or martial arts) I’m basically shooting sports, though I’ve traditionally had poor luck with AF-C in low light conditions. I usually need to pre-focus and lock focus (using the af button). Unfortunately, it seems to then lock focus on something in the background. > If you're shooting a lot of movement you might try using one of the Expanded > Area modes, but they only work using AF-C I may try AF-C again, I don’t remember how long it has been since the experiment where it didn’t work, things could be fixed by now. > > -p > > > On 12/2/2019 5:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> About a week ago we went to the Dickens Christmas Fair at the Cow Palace >> (Daly City, very close to Brisbane). In theory, the 35/1.4 would be an >> ideal lens for photographing dancing in crowded, low-light conditions. I >> seem to keep running into the opposite of the vocalists microphone problem. >> Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I keep getting >> all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the wall, 10, 20 or 30 >> feet behind the people that I’m trying to photograph. My guess is that it is >> not a problem with the lens, but with geometry. The wider angle lens has so >> much more background in the frame, the camera has more opportunities to >> focus on the sharp edge in the background. >> >> The last time I ran into this I was using my standard select-1 autofocus >> mode, this time I tried using select-9 in the hopes that it would select the >> object in the foreground. It didn’t work. I don’t know if it would work >> better using AF-C rather than AF-S, if it has a different algorithm to >> select the moving object in the foreground. I do wish that just like there >> are different auto exposure modes, there were different auto-focus modes, >> i.e. select the the object a little further back so that you get the >> vocalist rather than the mic, select the object closer so that you get the >> person rather than the wall behind them, or only try to focus on objects >> near infinity so that when you’re trying to photograph a bird it doesn’t >> rack the autofocus all of the way to the closest and back out while the bird >> flies out of the frame. >> >> I did try checking out my previews, but on such a small screen, everything >> looked like it was in focus. Another feature I would love would be similar >> to the blinkies that show clipping, have the focus peaking edge detection >> active on preview so I can easily see in the preview what the camera focused >> on. >> >> In any case, Dickens Fair can be a fun outing, and does provide some fun >> photographic opportunities (even if they don’t allow you to take photos at >> the naughty French Postcards show), and I do recommend it for folks in the >> Bay Area between Thanksgiving and Christmas. >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157712035774796 >> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com >> >> >> >> > -- > Paul Sorenson > Studio1941 > > Sooner or later "different" scares people. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
I may be misunderstanding your problem, but have you tried using the spot focus function instead of the Select-1, locking the focus on your main subject and re-composing as necessary? I don't use any of the multiple focus point or Select modes unless I'm shooting sports with AF-C. If you're shooting a lot of movement you might try using one of the Expanded Area modes, but they only work using AF-C -p On 12/2/2019 5:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote: About a week ago we went to the Dickens Christmas Fair at the Cow Palace (Daly City, very close to Brisbane). In theory, the 35/1.4 would be an ideal lens for photographing dancing in crowded, low-light conditions. I seem to keep running into the opposite of the vocalists microphone problem. Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I keep getting all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the wall, 10, 20 or 30 feet behind the people that I’m trying to photograph. My guess is that it is not a problem with the lens, but with geometry. The wider angle lens has so much more background in the frame, the camera has more opportunities to focus on the sharp edge in the background. The last time I ran into this I was using my standard select-1 autofocus mode, this time I tried using select-9 in the hopes that it would select the object in the foreground. It didn’t work. I don’t know if it would work better using AF-C rather than AF-S, if it has a different algorithm to select the moving object in the foreground. I do wish that just like there are different auto exposure modes, there were different auto-focus modes, i.e. select the the object a little further back so that you get the vocalist rather than the mic, select the object closer so that you get the person rather than the wall behind them, or only try to focus on objects near infinity so that when you’re trying to photograph a bird it doesn’t rack the autofocus all of the way to the closest and back out while the bird flies out of the frame. I did try checking out my previews, but on such a small screen, everything looked like it was in focus. Another feature I would love would be similar to the blinkies that show clipping, have the focus peaking edge detection active on preview so I can easily see in the preview what the camera focused on. In any case, Dickens Fair can be a fun outing, and does provide some fun photographic opportunities (even if they don’t allow you to take photos at the naughty French Postcards show), and I do recommend it for folks in the Bay Area between Thanksgiving and Christmas. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157712035774796 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- Paul Sorenson Studio1941 Sooner or later "different" scares people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Dickens Fair and the 35/1.4
About a week ago we went to the Dickens Christmas Fair at the Cow Palace (Daly City, very close to Brisbane). In theory, the 35/1.4 would be an ideal lens for photographing dancing in crowded, low-light conditions. I seem to keep running into the opposite of the vocalists microphone problem. Rather than focusing on some random object in the foreground, I keep getting all of these photos that are perfectly focused on the wall, 10, 20 or 30 feet behind the people that I’m trying to photograph. My guess is that it is not a problem with the lens, but with geometry. The wider angle lens has so much more background in the frame, the camera has more opportunities to focus on the sharp edge in the background. The last time I ran into this I was using my standard select-1 autofocus mode, this time I tried using select-9 in the hopes that it would select the object in the foreground. It didn’t work. I don’t know if it would work better using AF-C rather than AF-S, if it has a different algorithm to select the moving object in the foreground. I do wish that just like there are different auto exposure modes, there were different auto-focus modes, i.e. select the the object a little further back so that you get the vocalist rather than the mic, select the object closer so that you get the person rather than the wall behind them, or only try to focus on objects near infinity so that when you’re trying to photograph a bird it doesn’t rack the autofocus all of the way to the closest and back out while the bird flies out of the frame. I did try checking out my previews, but on such a small screen, everything looked like it was in focus. Another feature I would love would be similar to the blinkies that show clipping, have the focus peaking edge detection active on preview so I can easily see in the preview what the camera focused on. In any case, Dickens Fair can be a fun outing, and does provide some fun photographic opportunities (even if they don’t allow you to take photos at the naughty French Postcards show), and I do recommend it for folks in the Bay Area between Thanksgiving and Christmas. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157712035774796 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
