Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Igor PDML-StR]

With that debt, he will be so thin that he will have more room to grow 
(in width).

:-)


Bruce Walker Tue, 02 Jun 2020 05:34:59 -0700 wrote:

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:06 AM Bill  wrote:



Well Larry, this lens will give you a lot of room to grow. :)



With the first blunder being going deeper into debt to buy it. ;)

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bill, there is a special deal: "Buy one for $3799.90, send one to a 
friend for free"!

;-)

That's only 90 cents, not 95! ;-)

Cheers!

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Bill Mon, 01 Jun 2020 21:56:07 -0700 wrote:

Amazon.com has it available for preorder for you. As I said in a 
previous post, it is US$1899.95. I was off by ninety five cents. B and 
Adorama may sell it for a bit less, but I can't see it going for 
$1700.00.



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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Bill]

On 6/2/2020 11:15 AM, John wrote:
I just took the £2099 from Larry's link and ran it through an on-line 
currency converter to get $2600.


Around $1500 - $1800 seems more reasonable.


I'm starting to wonder if you guys can actually read.
It's been given an initial price of US$1899.95.
Whether or not it stays there remains to be seen.

FWIW, this is the third time I've given you guys the price of the 
product in your dollars.


bill


Certainly I'd be able to buy one much sooner at that price than I would 
at the higher one.




You only need to stretch for another hundred bucks to get one.

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[John]

On 6/2/2020 08:33:58, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:06 AM Bill  wrote:


On 6/1/2020 11:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 6/1/2020 10:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:


At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight

line clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that
before.

The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.

That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and

aesthetic mistake I make in stunning detail.


Imagine the same mistakes, only better.


Oh, I honestly strive to keep making new mistakes, it’s my path to

personal growth.

Well Larry, this lens will give you a lot of room to grow. :)



With the first blunder being going deeper into debt to buy it. ; >


Once you're in over your head, it doesn't matter how deep it is. It's sink or 
swim baby!



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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[John]

Well, there you go ... start saving your bottle caps**

On 6/2/2020 00:57:22, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:


At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight line 
clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that before.
The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.


That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and aesthetic 
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[John]

I just took the £2099 from Larry's link and ran it through an on-line currency 
converter to get $2600.


Around $1500 - $1800 seems more reasonable.

Certainly I'd be able to buy one much sooner at that price than I would at the 
higher one.


On 6/1/2020 19:26:10, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I’m thinking $1700. It will be priced reasonably. It has to be to support the 
brand.

Paul


On Jun 1, 2020, at 5:06 PM, John  wrote:

Science I think, because I really do want to know if/when they're going to 
announce a price for it and how much that's going to be.

About $2600 USD at current exchange rates?



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I liked the way your post works with your .signature.  Is it science or 
religion?
I saw this that the amazon uk price was leaked at 2100 pounds
https://pentaxrumors.com/2020/05/24/pentax-d-fa-85mm-f-1-4-lens-leaked-on-amazon-uk-price-2099-59/

On May 30, 2020, at 11:09 AM, John  wrote:


Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.


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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 12:55 AM Bill  wrote:
>
> On 6/1/2020 5:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > I’m thinking $1700. It will be priced reasonably. It has to be to support 
> > the brand.
>
> Amazon.com has it available for preorder for you. As I said in a
> previous post, it is US$1899.95. I was off by ninety five cents.
> B and Adorama may sell it for a bit less, but I can't see it going for
> $1700.00.
>
> If you look at the MTF charts, this lens is quite a bit better superior
> to the Zeiss Otis 85/1.4 which doesn't have auto focus and sells for
> US$4.5K.
>
> At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight
> line clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like
> that before.
> The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.
>
> My pusher emailed me today that it's available for ordering, so mine is
> on it's way. I expect it to arrive sometime in the third week of this month.


I am very happy to see this arrive as it opens up the option for me to
add a K-1, 50mm and 85mm as a unified kit to backup / alternate to my
645Z kit. I'd really like to have a body with a second focal length
mounted on it ready to grab during shooting and my trusty old K-3 just
isn't cutting it anymore.

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:06 AM Bill  wrote:

> On 6/1/2020 11:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Bill  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/1/2020 10:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>  On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
>  At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight
> line clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that
> before.
>  The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.
> >>> That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and
> aesthetic mistake I make in stunning detail.
> >>
> >> Imagine the same mistakes, only better.
> >
> > Oh, I honestly strive to keep making new mistakes, it’s my path to
> personal growth.
>
> Well Larry, this lens will give you a lot of room to grow. :)
>

With the first blunder being going deeper into debt to buy it. ;)

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Bill]

On 6/1/2020 11:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 6/1/2020 10:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:


At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight line 
clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that before.
The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.

That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and aesthetic 
mistake I make in stunning detail.


Imagine the same mistakes, only better.


Oh, I honestly strive to keep making new mistakes, it’s my path to personal 
growth.



Well Larry, this lens will give you a lot of room to grow. :)

bill

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 6/1/2020 10:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight line 
>>> clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that before.
>>> The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.
>> That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and 
>> aesthetic mistake I make in stunning detail.
> 
> Imagine the same mistakes, only better.

Oh, I honestly strive to keep making new mistakes, it’s my path to personal 
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Bill]

On 6/1/2020 10:57 PM, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:


At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight line 
clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that before.
The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.


That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and aesthetic 
mistake I make in stunning detail.



Imagine the same mistakes, only better.

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Larry Colen]

> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight line 
> clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like that before.
> The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.

That’s exactly what I need, a lens that shows every photographic and aesthetic 
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Bill]

On 6/1/2020 5:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I’m thinking $1700. It will be priced reasonably. It has to be to support the 
brand.



Amazon.com has it available for preorder for you. As I said in a 
previous post, it is US$1899.95. I was off by ninety five cents.
B and Adorama may sell it for a bit less, but I can't see it going for 
$1700.00.


If you look at the MTF charts, this lens is quite a bit better superior 
to the Zeiss Otis 85/1.4 which doesn't have auto focus and sells for 
US$4.5K.


At F8, it doesn't have an MTF curve, it has a slightly wavy straight 
line clinging to the top of the graph. I've never seen anything like 
that before.

The sample pictures I have seen are stunning.

My pusher emailed me today that it's available for ordering, so mine is 
on it's way. I expect it to arrive sometime in the third week of this month.


bill

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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I’m thinking $1700. It will be priced reasonably. It has to be to support the 
brand.

Paul

> On Jun 1, 2020, at 5:06 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> Science I think, because I really do want to know if/when they're going to 
> announce a price for it and how much that's going to be.
> 
> About $2600 USD at current exchange rates?
> 
> 
>> On 5/30/2020 14:25:14, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I liked the way your post works with your .signature.  Is it science or 
>> religion?
>> I saw this that the amazon uk price was leaked at 2100 pounds
>> https://pentaxrumors.com/2020/05/24/pentax-d-fa-85mm-f-1-4-lens-leaked-on-amazon-uk-price-2099-59/
 On May 30, 2020, at 11:09 AM, John  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.
>>> 
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[John]

Science I think, because I really do want to know if/when they're going to 
announce a price for it and how much that's going to be.


About $2600 USD at current exchange rates?


On 5/30/2020 14:25:14, Larry Colen wrote:

I liked the way your post works with your .signature.  Is it science or 
religion?

I saw this that the amazon uk price was leaked at 2100 pounds
https://pentaxrumors.com/2020/05/24/pentax-d-fa-85mm-f-1-4-lens-leaked-on-amazon-uk-price-2099-59/


On May 30, 2020, at 11:09 AM, John  wrote:

Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.


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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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On 5/30/2020 1:39 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I’d guess $1700 US. I suspect they want it to be seen as bit of a bargain vs 
the bigs.

Paul


US$1899.00. I don't think Ricoh is terribly interested in being the 
cheap and dirty brand with Pentax, considering that was how they picked 
up the brand name for what amounted to corporate chump change.


bill





On May 30, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Bill  wrote:

On Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:10 pm John,  wrote:


Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.



I think just under US$2k. It looks like Ricoh is repositioning the brand.

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Paul Stenquist]

I’d guess $1700 US. I suspect they want it to be seen as bit of a bargain vs 
the bigs.

Paul

> On May 30, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:10 pm John,  wrote:
> 
>> Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.
>> 
> 
> I think just under US$2k. It looks like Ricoh is repositioning the brand.
> 
> bill
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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On Sat, 30 May 2020, 12:10 pm John,  wrote:

> Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.
>

I think just under US$2k. It looks like Ricoh is repositioning the brand.

bill

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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I liked the way your post works with your .signature.  Is it science or 
religion?

I saw this that the amazon uk price was leaked at 2100 pounds
https://pentaxrumors.com/2020/05/24/pentax-d-fa-85mm-f-1-4-lens-leaked-on-amazon-uk-price-2099-59/

> On May 30, 2020, at 11:09 AM, John  wrote:
> 
> Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.
> 
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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Have they announced a price yet? I haven't seen anything about that.

On 5/28/2020 09:32:26, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Me, too.  I'd love to have an 85mm prime but this one's way above my pay grade.

-p

On 5/28/2020 8:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

True, but many former members no longer hang out here, and others of us are
financially challenged.

I think the lens is fabulous;  I just can't see it in my stable.

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On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:08 AM Pat Temmerman  wrote:


In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of
'85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.
rections.




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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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> On 28 May 2020 at 14:08 Pat Temmerman  wrote:
> 
> 
> In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of 
> '85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.

In days of yore an 85/1.4 would work with virtually every camera Pentax ever 
made, even ones of a different format.  Pentax pooped rather badly in that 
particular nest.

> 
> 
> On 28/05/2020 02:55, Bill wrote:
> 
> > I know we don’t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
> > for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
> > the very near future.
> >
> >
> > http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/
> >
> > http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/
> >
> >
> > bill
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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Am 28.05.20 um 18:07 schrieb Henk Terhell:

I cherish my Tamron 90/2.8 macro lens


Same here for my SMC-M 2/85 mm. And even that hasn't seen much use over
the last years.

Besides, I'm still happy with my K-3, so my portrait lens would be a 50
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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I cherish my Tamron 90/2.8 macro lens that no doubt was much cheaper 
than the new 85 mm prime will be.

This macro lens serves me also well as a portrait lens.

Henk

Op 2020-05-28 om 15:32 schreef Paul Sorenson:
Me, too.  I'd love to have an 85mm prime but this one's way above my 
pay grade.


-p

On 5/28/2020 8:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
True, but many former members no longer hang out here, and others of 
us are

financially challenged.

I think the lens is fabulous;  I just can't see it in my stable.

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In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of
'85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.
rections.




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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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Hope to handle this one soon!

Paul

> On May 27, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I know we don’t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
> for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
> the very near future.
> 
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

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Me, too.  I'd love to have an 85mm prime but this one's way above my pay 
grade.


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On 5/28/2020 8:27 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

True, but many former members no longer hang out here, and others of us are
financially challenged.

I think the lens is fabulous;  I just can't see it in my stable.

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:08 AM Pat Temmerman  wrote:


In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of
'85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.
rections.


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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Daniel J. Matyola]

True, but many former members no longer hang out here, and others of us are
financially challenged.

I think the lens is fabulous;  I just can't see it in my stable.

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*



On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:08 AM Pat Temmerman  wrote:

> In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of
> '85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.
> rections.
>
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Pat Temmerman]

In days of yore, this forum would be EX-PLO-DING over any mention of 
'85mm', especially if followed by '1.4'.



On 28/05/2020 02:55, Bill wrote:


I know we don’t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
the very near future.


http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/


bill


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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Paul Stenquist]

Yup. Looks like a keeper.

Paul

> On May 27, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I know we don’t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
> for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
> the very near future.
> 
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/
> 
> 
> bill
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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[John Francis]

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 07:55:32PM -0600, Bill wrote:
> I know we don???t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
> for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
> the very near future.
> 
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/
> 
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/

Fortunately for my wallet, I don't have a single body I could use it on!
(the newest I have is a K-5, and that doesn't support the new lens mount).

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Re: D FA* 85mm f/1.4

[Daniel J. Matyola]

desirable indeed, but no way can I justify the investment,

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 9:56 PM Bill  wrote:

> I know we don’t talk much about Pentax camera equipment on the PDML, but
> for anyone interested, they are releasing a new and very desirable lens in
> the very near future.
>
>
>
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/telephoto/hdpentax-dfa-85/
>
>
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/star_lens/special/sp_dfa85-14/
>
>
> bill
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