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Like some other people in this list, I also write software for a living, working at a telecommunications company. In the past I had a part time job as a system administrator, but decided that having no free time makes me no good, so I quit. I like what I do, but having two jobs at the same time seemed to be too much. I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science, so I'm actually working in my field. Nowadays I try not to work overtime, to drink less coffe, take more photos and keep up with the list traffic:) -- Attila -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Attila, Nowadays I try not to work overtime, to drink less coffe, take more photos and keep up with the list traffic:) This sounds awfully like a new year resolution to me ;-). -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hello Boris, Thursday, January 11, 2007, 2:36:48 PM, you wrote: BL Attila, Nowadays I try not to work overtime, to drink less coffe, take more photos and keep up with the list traffic:) BL This sounds awfully like a new year resolution to me ;-). Whoops, I wasn't even thinking it may sound like that before you pointed it out! Now I have to look for some fine quality green tea g. -- Attila -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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A Banker whose name is Cassino? Right... CW ;) - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Borrowing Doug's words, I'm a reformed photographer. Before that, even though Alan Greenspan reverts to single syllable words when he hears me say it, I was a Banker. These days I work for a non-profit that provides guardian, conservator, and other advocacy services. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 4:12 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Har! :-) Pull his arm and he leak's money. Dave :-) On 1/10/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Banker whose name is Cassino? Right... CW ;) - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Borrowing Doug's words, I'm a reformed photographer. Before that, even though Alan Greenspan reverts to single syllable words when he hears me say it, I was a Banker. These days I work for a non-profit that provides guardian, conservator, and other advocacy services. - MCC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Boris Liberman wrote: Mark, having dealt with many people who are involved with trading and having dealt with you about that exhibition you had in Israel, I should say, you're the most friendly and generally enjoyable person (involved with money professionally) I've known. Well, this is compliment, just to make sure I am not misunderstood. Thanks Boris - your comments are appreciated. I try not to get too uptight about things. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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cbwaters wrote: A Banker whose name is Cassino? Right... CW ;) LOL - the house always wins. I don't take any offense from your comment, but I have to say - had you made that comment to my father or grandfather (may they rest in peace) they would have come down with a bad case of 'veinus-poppus' and probably would have subjected you to the Italians had centuries old universities while the British were still living in trees speech - which I heard more than a few times gowning up. Must be the Irish blood from my mothers side that makes me easy going. :-) - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Borrowing Doug's words, I'm a reformed photographer. Before that, even though Alan Greenspan reverts to single syllable words when he hears me say it, I was a Banker. These days I work for a non-profit that provides guardian, conservator, and other advocacy services. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Cassino wrote: These days I work for a non-profit that provides guardian, conservator, and other advocacy services. Oh, you're a parent? :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi! Mark Cassino wrote: Borrowing Doug's words, I'm a reformed photographer. Before that, even though Alan Greenspan reverts to single syllable words when he hears me say it, I was a Banker. These days I work for a non-profit that provides guardian, conservator, and other advocacy services. Mark, having dealt with many people who are involved with trading and having dealt with you about that exhibition you had in Israel, I should say, you're the most friendly and generally enjoyable person (involved with money professionally) I've known. Well, this is compliment, just to make sure I am not misunderstood. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I am an electrical engineer by education (City College of New York) and profession. I just finished up supporting operational testing of radar systems in an electrical warfare environment in Florida. Currently I am working on the F-22 system and am looking to getting on another project here shortly. The new project should get me back to Florida by the summer. The funny thing is that most of the people that know me in Florida know me as a photographer, Cesar Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of some of your occupations... however some of you are a mystery to me. I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :) Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern Alberta. Anyone care to share? -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm a fry cook at McDonald's headquarters in Chicago. Bob S. On 1/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am an electrical engineer by education (City College of New York) and profession. I just finished up supporting operational testing of radar systems in an electrical warfare environment in Florida. Currently I am working on the F-22 system and am looking to getting on another project here shortly. The new project should get me back to Florida by the summer. The funny thing is that most of the people that know me in Florida know me as a photographer, Cesar Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of some of your occupations... however some of you are a mystery to me. I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :) Anyway, just for a starting point, I'm a elementary special education teacher, presently substitute teaching as I'm just starting out back in my hometown after a year teaching in Kingston-Upon-Hull (it's never dull in Hull!), England , and then two years teaching in northern Alberta. Anyone care to share? -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Thursday 04 January 2007 20:29, Jens Bladt wrote: I am an architect (graduated 1978) doing city planning for a municipality. Mostly I do development briefs (local plans). I took a bachelor degree in project management five years ago. Something like PRINCE2? I also do strategic planning and city renewal plans and renewal plan project management (industrial areas redeveloping for residential purposes, shopping, offices etc.) coordinating different planning/project efforts. Yesterday I did this panorama for assessing the visual impact on the coastal areas of a new football (soccer) stadium. The image will go into a development brief: http://www.jensbladt.dk/pano/kystnaerhed.html Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of some of your occupations... however some of you are a mystery to me. I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :) [...] Anyone care to share? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 01/04/2007 -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote: And in order to minimize the system impedance so that I can make the most of the very low damping factor of my amps I run a short 1m length of old Supra 10mm2 cable, it keeps the bass tight ;-) I'm not sure what I'll be using for speaker cabling when I get my system done, but for the internal wiring within the speakers I splashed out and used litz. Only because I was able to get the stuff mega cheap - where I worked we used the stuff by the kilometre and also had the odd engineering-sample roll lying around. If it's good enough for multi-kilowatt power transformers running at hundreds of kHz, it'll be good enough for audio. The downside of using litz is that it's a real pain to connect, as each strand is individually insulated (hundreds of them, hair-thin) so you can't just bunch the end into a binding post. You have to thoroughly tin the ends using a high-temperature soldering iron then solder it to a connector. To connect the amplifiers to the bass drivers I'll probably just use big fat generic cable but I think I have a couple of metres of litz left over so I might use that for the mids tweeters, or maybe cat5 if I don't have enough litz. The mid tweeter see very little power so they don't need a heavy-gauge wire. I will be glad to get those pesky passive crossovers out of the way (see pics at the bottom of this page: all I've changed in the past two years are some resistor values to tweak the padding): http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/speaker2/ - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:00 AM, graywolf wrote: You, know what? That is exactly what I said when stereo came out. Truth be known, I still would rather have a good mono system. I'd settle for Tori Amos in my living room. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I second that one... Norm Kenneth Waller wrote: When in the Navy, as a Sr. corpsman,. Keith, thank you for all you did for our country. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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A third from here. Paul -- Original message -- From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] I second that one... Norm Kenneth Waller wrote: When in the Navy, as a Sr. corpsman,. Keith, thank you for all you did for our country. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A third from here. Paul -- Original message -- From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] I second that one... Norm Thanks, gents. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 05/01/07, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not quite :) I was alluding to the dozens of times I've seen/heard these things explode when something goes wrong in a prototype... I've made 5mm LEDs ricochet too (on purpose), pretty impressive. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 04/01/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Psalm 146:4 states: His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish. In addition the concept of an immortal soul with a conciousness that survives the body and goes on to exist somewhere renders moot the concept of a resurrection back to life. If a person is still alive, after dying, no resurrection is required. It's all very interesting but what's it got to do with HiFi? ;-) It's probably someone's religion. g, d r Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only the kind of clubs that allow Norm and Bill in. shudder Like PDML?shudder -frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? Imagine what it's like living with a woman who *is* a forensic scientist! (Well, she used to do forensics years ago - now it's strictly surgical pathology and cytology...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? Imagine what it's like living with a woman who *is* a forensic scientist! (Well, she used to do forensics years ago - now it's strictly surgical pathology and cytology...) Mrs. List Guy is a Forensic Chemist. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 02:07:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? Imagine what it's like living with a woman who *is* a forensic scientist! (Well, she used to do forensics years ago - now it's strictly surgical pathology and cytology...) Mrs. List Guy is a Forensic Chemist. And neither of you have access to one of those forensic DSLRs with enhancement capabilities to match an electron microscope? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/4/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 02:07:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? Imagine what it's like living with a woman who *is* a forensic scientist! (Well, she used to do forensics years ago - now it's strictly surgical pathology and cytology...) Mrs. List Guy is a Forensic Chemist. And neither of you have access to one of those forensic DSLRs with enhancement capabilities to match an electron microscope? Or that cool image processing software that can reconstruct a face from the reflection in the glass bead on a tailors needle from 6 pixels of a 1000% zoomed image. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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mike wilson wrote: From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 02:07:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? Imagine what it's like living with a woman who *is* a forensic scientist! (Well, she used to do forensics years ago - now it's strictly surgical pathology and cytology...) Mrs. List Guy is a Forensic Chemist. And neither of you have access to one of those forensic DSLRs with enhancement capabilities to match an electron microscope? That's what I used for the Christmas card photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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And neither of you have access to one of those forensic DSLRs with enhancement capabilities to match an electron microscope? I think they use PS 99. Or digital data bases that catalog everything - don't you just love it? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/04 Thu PM 02:07:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 3/1/07, Norm Baugher, discombobulated, unleashed: Your wife know about this? She knows *everything*. Don't you know that all wives have a gene found only in forensic scientists? Imagine what it's like living with a woman who *is* a forensic scientist! (Well, she used to do forensics years ago - now it's strictly surgical pathology and cytology...) Mrs. List Guy is a Forensic Chemist. And neither of you have access to one of those forensic DSLRs with enhancement capabilities to match an electron microscope? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Software developer: Lotus Notes/Domino. The horror! THE HORROR! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I was young when I ordered mine. Who thinks about expansion pack then? There is always the hit and run option. In this case, this was my plan B. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russell Kerstetter Sent: 4. januar 2007 06:33 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? On 1/3/07, Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But this is simply my taste. Do I need my asbestos outfit because I stated this? I have it here, but I believe I will have a hard time getting into it after the Christmas pudding ;-) then you should have ordered the 'expansion' pack, I got one for free when I ordered my suit within the next five minutes! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I am an architect (graduated 1978) doing city planning for a municipality. Mostly I do development briefs (local plans). I took a bachelor degree in project management five years ago. I also do strategic planning and city renewal plans and renewal plan project management (industrial areas redeveloping for residential purposes, shopping, offices etc.) coordinating different planning/project efforts. Yesterday I did this panorama for assessing the visual impact on the coastal areas of a new football (soccer) stadium. The image will go into a development brief: http://www.jensbladt.dk/pano/kystnaerhed.html Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 On 1/2/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading this list for nearly 8 months now, and I'm aware of some of your occupations... however some of you are a mystery to me. I'm not sure if that's on purpose or not... :) [...] Anyone care to share? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 01/04/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:03:22 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Fairweather wrote: I run a university business school in Kent. I'm attempting to retire early as the best part of the job has become taking photos for the in house magazine and the external relations department. Why are their so few female contributors to this list? Does this reflect camera users as a whole or just list users possibly? I've noticed that female photographers are rather less inclined to talk gear. hence the relative rarity on lists and forums which tend to be a little gear oriented. I think you're right, Adam. Among my friends there are as least as much female as male photographers serious enough to own a (D)SLR, if not more. The same is true of the photography courses I took. -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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True. Women often seem to be better focused on what is the main issue - the photographs. In my camera club, we never or rarely talk gear. We discuss and show/see photographs.. On february 2nd we are all supposed to bring and show one photograph (not our own) which we especially appreciate. I will bring Ameraican Girl in Italy by Ruth Okin: http://www.allposters.com/-sp/American-Girl-in-Italy-1951-Posters_i314665_.h tm I also did consider bringing the photograph of the Tank Man - from China, you know which one: http://tinyurl.com/w4gu2 http://www.answers.com/topic/tank-man-1 Regards Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Lucas Rijnders Sendt: 4. januar 2007 22:22 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: OT: Occupations? On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:03:22 +0100, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Fairweather wrote: I run a university business school in Kent. I'm attempting to retire early as the best part of the job has become taking photos for the in house magazine and the external relations department. Why are their so few female contributors to this list? Does this reflect camera users as a whole or just list users possibly? I've noticed that female photographers are rather less inclined to talk gear. hence the relative rarity on lists and forums which tend to be a little gear oriented. I think you're right, Adam. Among my friends there are as least as much female as male photographers serious enough to own a (D)SLR, if not more. The same is true of the photography courses I took. -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 01/04/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 01/04/2007 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I haven't chimed in yet, largely because my chosen occupation has kept me really busy lately (there are 570-odd unread PDML messages in my mailbox, too!). I'm a physician, specifically a pediatrician, and still more specifically a pediatric oncologist. Yeah, I know, what a drag--a friend and colleague said that when she told people her specialty at cocktail parties it was like dropping a turd in the punchbowl. I really like what I do, though. I -never- have a boring day, we can cure most of our patients, and even when cure is out of reach we can make things better for them and their families. And, the thrill of getting Christmas cards and baby pictures from grown-up kids I treated 5 or 10 or 20 years ago is wonderful. From the time I was in high school, I wanted to be an academic physician--patient care, teaching, and research--and that is exactly what I'm doing. So I consider myself very, very fortunate, in that way and many others. Cheers, Rick http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Rick Womer wrote: I haven't chimed in yet, largely because my chosen occupation has kept me really busy lately (there are 570-odd unread PDML messages in my mailbox, too!). I'm a physician, specifically a pediatrician, and still more specifically a pediatric oncologist. Yeah, I know, what a drag--a friend and colleague said that when she told people her specialty at cocktail parties it was like dropping a turd in the punchbowl. I can understand that... I really like what I do, though. I -never- have a boring day, we can cure most of our patients, and even when cure is out of reach we can make things better for them and their families. And, the thrill of getting Christmas cards and baby pictures from grown-up kids I treated 5 or 10 or 20 years ago is wonderful. Brings a smile to my face... I know the feeling! From the time I was in high school, I wanted to be an academic physician--patient care, teaching, and research--and that is exactly what I'm doing. So I consider myself very, very fortunate, in that way and many others. Cheers, Rick When in the Navy, as a Sr. corpsman, (6 yr. in grade) I worked on the oncology wards, adults at one time, pediatrics another time. In pediatrics, we had hydrocephalics (is that bad word?) and other sad maladies... The kids killed me! Taking care of terminal CA patients was bad enough, if they were adults. Taking care of the little patients was absolutely heart rending! Thinking of some of them today brings tears to my eyes... I just couldn't do that for a living. I'm a bit too much of a softy! I ended up training to be a Surgical Nurse, and loved it. Orthopedic and thoracic teams... Since it was Korean War time, we got some of the worst of the patients from the field, but overall, we did very well. Saved all we could, and then some! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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What a great career that must be. Thanks for taking care of our kids. Paul Rick Womer wrote: I haven't chimed in yet, largely because my chosen occupation has kept me really busy lately (there are 570-odd unread PDML messages in my mailbox, too!). I'm a physician, specifically a pediatrician, and still more specifically a pediatric oncologist. Yeah, I know, what a drag--a friend and colleague said that when she told people her specialty at cocktail parties it was like dropping a turd in the punchbowl. I really like what I do, though. I -never- have a boring day, we can cure most of our patients, and even when cure is out of reach we can make things better for them and their families. And, the thrill of getting Christmas cards and baby pictures from grown-up kids I treated 5 or 10 or 20 years ago is wonderful. From the time I was in high school, I wanted to be an academic physician--patient care, teaching, and research--and that is exactly what I'm doing. So I consider myself very, very fortunate, in that way and many others. Cheers, Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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When in the Navy, as a Sr. corpsman,. Keith, thank you for all you did for our country. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Rick Womer wrote: I haven't chimed in yet, largely because my chosen occupation has kept me really busy lately (there are 570-odd unread PDML messages in my mailbox, too!). I'm a physician, specifically a pediatrician, and still more specifically a pediatric oncologist. Yeah, I know, what a drag--a friend and colleague said that when she told people her specialty at cocktail parties it was like dropping a turd in the punchbowl. I can understand that... I really like what I do, though. I -never- have a boring day, we can cure most of our patients, and even when cure is out of reach we can make things better for them and their families. And, the thrill of getting Christmas cards and baby pictures from grown-up kids I treated 5 or 10 or 20 years ago is wonderful. Brings a smile to my face... I know the feeling! From the time I was in high school, I wanted to be an academic physician--patient care, teaching, and research--and that is exactly what I'm doing. So I consider myself very, very fortunate, in that way and many others. Cheers, Rick When in the Navy, as a Sr. corpsman, (6 yr. in grade) I worked on the oncology wards, adults at one time, pediatrics another time. In pediatrics, we had hydrocephalics (is that bad word?) and other sad maladies... The kids killed me! Taking care of terminal CA patients was bad enough, if they were adults. Taking care of the little patients was absolutely heart rending! Thinking of some of them today brings tears to my eyes... I just couldn't do that for a living. I'm a bit too much of a softy! I ended up training to be a Surgical Nurse, and loved it. Orthopedic and thoracic teams... Since it was Korean War time, we got some of the worst of the patients from the field, but overall, we did very well. Saved all we could, and then some! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Kenneth Waller wrote: When in the Navy, as a Sr. corpsman,. Keith, thank you for all you did for our country. Kenneth Waller Thank you, sir! My pleasure indeed! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 12:01 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). I can't be bothered with all the speakers wiring for multi-channel. At the moment I just run the sound through the TV as the living room layout won't let me locate the good speakers on each side of the TV. It doesn't bother me though: if the movie is good, I don't feel the need for fancy sound. Pity the TV is currently broken. I must get around to having it fixed. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 2:48 AM, Bob Shell wrote: On Jan 2, 2007, at 11:13 PM, David Mann wrote: What's a MOSFET? A small explosive. Israeli secret service? Not quite :) I was alluding to the dozens of times I've seen/heard these things explode when something goes wrong in a prototype... - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 04:18:01 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? ... or you'd have to kill us? We're already dead. Don't you recognise Hell when you see it? Mark Roberts wrote: Mike Hamilton wrote: Anyone care to share? I'm a secret agent. Sorry, I can't tell you any more... -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Anyone care to share? I used to mow lawns and weed gardens until I resolved that I was going to stop killing innocent plants for money, so now I sell photos at a local market and through a few small retailers as well as shooting the occasional job for a friend. I'm only 18 though, and living with my parents doesn't cost much. :) Cheers, Francis www.islandlight.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/01/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...or the effects of the green pen on the CD edges that was sold some years ago. That was really crap .-) True, but did you ever see the green polymer stabilizer rings that were designed to snugly fit on the edge of CDs? I actually used them on my technical test discs as they raised the disc sufficiently that I could pop them face down on a clean surface and not risk scratches (and of course the test tones had so much more depth of stereo field) ;-) No I didn't, but it sounds like a smart unintended side effect .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Maybe the difference here is between hi-fi-enthusiasts and music enthusiasts? DagT Fra: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree with that statement. Most serious hi-fi enthusiast are very picky about their amps and tend to care whether they are regular bipolar, mosfet, or tube output circuits because they can each have a characteristic sound unless they really really well implemented which is rare and very expensive. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margus Männik I suspect that most of the hi-fi enthusiasts don't know and doesn't care what MOSFET stands for and what it really means... ;) BRM J. C. O'Connell wrote: You guys are obviously not hi-fi enthusiasts. Those have been used in some audio amps for decades. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET Aren't you glad you asked. :-) Dave (I had no idea either) At 01:28 AM 3/01/2007, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's a MOSFET? Shel [Original Message] From: Mat Maessen I can tell you [...] how to properly bias MOSFETs though -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Well, I switched from OK to very expensive cables from the CD player to my good old Audiolab amplifier and didn't notice much difference, but from there to the ProAc loudspeakers the wires does, of course, get more important. There's a lot of current passing through them. As for the audiophile forums I keep away from them. Mostly because most of what they discuss is too close to pseudoscience for me, like the green pen. I haven't bought anything new for ages (except for new base elements for the loudspeakers) but when I do I'll do as I did before: Just listen carefully. As long as you know how the instruments sound for real you know how they should sound in good productions, so it is easy to compare. DagT Fra: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, if you can not clearly hear the difference between one brand of 10ga. wire and another, there is something wrong with your hearing. I have been reading some stuff on an audio forum and have finally came to the understanding that what folks who call themselves audiophiles mean by HiFi is excessively loud with a rather over boosted midrange. They do a lot of sneering at the uninformed who think HiFi means excessively loud with over boosted bass. And, of course, dumb old farts like me, always have the treble turned up way too high and can not here the difference between those brands of wire. DagT wrote: Den 2. jan. 2007 kl. 23.00 skrev Digital Image Studio: On 03/01/07, Margus Männik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that most of the hi-fi enthusiasts don't know and doesn't care what MOSFET stands for and what it really means... ;) Yes, they are too busy trying to hear the difference between digital interconnects :-) ...or the effects of the green pen on the CD edges that was sold some years ago. That was really crap .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the difference here is between hi-fi-enthusiasts and music enthusiasts? DagT Dag, I think you're just right. Several years ago I bought some components and cables and connected them. They sound *just right* for me. I don't care since then, I just enjoy listening ;-). For the record: Amp: NAD-320 Driver (right term?): Pioner DV-575 Speakers: Mission 71 2.5 mm cables from Amp to Speakers and custom made golden tipped (term) cables from Driver to Amp. It wasn't very expensive and I really like the sound it produces. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fra: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the difference here is between hi-fi-enthusiasts and music enthusiasts? DagT Dag, I think you're just right. Several years ago I bought some components and cables and connected them. They sound *just right* for me. I don't care since then, I just enjoy listening ;-). For the record: Amp: NAD-320 Driver (right term?): Pioner DV-575 Speakers: Mission 71 2.5 mm cables from Amp to Speakers and custom made golden tipped (term) cables from Driver to Amp. That's not very different from what I bought. I listened to Mission speakers but ended up with ProAc Studio 1, as I like the neutral and very detailed sound which is nice with acoustic intruments. I got some good quadropole cables with them. I almost bought a NAD amplifier but decided on an Audiolab 8000A (sadly I think they are out of business now) because it sounded better with the speakers, and the CD-player is an expensive Technics player that I got very cheap from a friend who work at the Technics representative in Norway. Some time, when we get a house and the kids get bigger, I'll get a power amplifier and some new set of ProAc speakers (the new ones are even better) but living in an apartment what I've got now is perfect. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 10:45:45 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT: Occupations? Looking at all the I am a whatever here I wonder what my life would be like today if I had had that kind of stability. I do know that a loss of concentration, coordination, energy, emotional stability, and about 50 points in IQ, leaves me on social-security (The neurologists all agree that something is wrong, but don't have a clue otherwise SIGH!). I'd say you're amply qualified to work in IT. -- Bob Or HRM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 02 January 2007 21:30 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Some day we shall have to talk grin. Strangely I have not used a soldering iron on a job since I worked in a TV shop back in 63-64. While I usually refer to my primary occupation as an EMT (electro-mechanical technician), every employer I've worked for has had a different name for what I did. But basically I build, assembled, tested, debugged, etc. electrical and/or mechanical gadgets. Ran the gamut from watch repair to building industrial robots, with asides into working as an electrician and running a 4x4 shop. Sometimes I worked alone, sometimes on big teams. Work was usually very project oriented, when the project was done I was out looking for work. so, I had sub-occupations that I usually did in the interim. Usually I drove a truck, did some kind of sales, or tried to open a photography business. The problem was when another project came along I would be hungry enough to abandon the attempt. Looking at all the I am a whatever here I wonder what my life would be like today if I had had that kind of stability. I do know that a loss of concentration, coordination, energy, emotional stability, and about 50 points in IQ, leaves me on social-security (The neurologists all agree that something is wrong, but don't have a clue otherwise SIGH!). Ah, well, I am 62 now, so I can call myself retired. I'm retired. Adam Maas wrote: I'm an Electronics Engineering Technician by trade. Haven't touched a soldering iron for pay since 97 though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 03/01/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I switched from OK to very expensive cables from the CD player to my good old Audiolab amplifier and didn't notice much difference, but from there to the ProAc loudspeakers the wires does, of course, get more important. There's a lot of current passing through them. I've got nice practical cables for my interconnects, inexpensive but good enough to be used for audio, video or digital data, I don't discriminate :-) However for my speaker cables I've used plain old Supra for years, it's good quality low impedance cable (which is ultimately all that matters). -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not very different from what I bought. I listened to Mission speakers but ended up with ProAc Studio 1, as I like the neutral and very detailed sound which is nice with acoustic intruments. I got some good quadropole cables with them. I almost bought a NAD amplifier but decided on an Audiolab 8000A (sadly I think they are out of business now) because it sounded better with the speakers, and the CD-player is an expensive Technics player that I got very cheap from a friend who work at the Technics representative in Norway. Some time, when we get a house and the kids get bigger, I'll get a power amplifier and some new set of ProAc speakers (the new ones are even better) but living in an apartment what I've got now is perfect. I had a dedicated CD player but opted to buy a DVD player with good sound quality. As usual, I listened to all my components before actually buying them. In fact, I bought Pioneer 470 without knowing that 575 existed. Then I went to the store and compared the sound. And then I had to ask to allow me to exchange one by another, which was granted ;-). I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fra: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). Another thing is that the number of speakers will dominate your livingroom .-) I have no intention to get more than two channels for listening to music. Music has always been made and arranged so that we have the sound coming from a large or small scene so that is enough. Also, a good pair of speakers can make an illustion of three dimensions so you can hear the singer is standing close to you or at a distance. Sorround systems may be OK for movies, but I do not want to feel that I am part of orchestra. I want to be at one of the first seats in front of it .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I have a surround system, which is nice for movies and television sports (which are now frequently broadcast in surround sound -- you hear the crowd behind you:-), but I switch it over to stereo for music listening. I've compared and prefer the stereo. On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:12 AM, DagT wrote: Fra: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). Another thing is that the number of speakers will dominate your livingroom .-) I have no intention to get more than two channels for listening to music. Music has always been made and arranged so that we have the sound coming from a large or small scene so that is enough. Also, a good pair of speakers can make an illustion of three dimensions so you can hear the singer is standing close to you or at a distance. Sorround systems may be OK for movies, but I do not want to feel that I am part of orchestra. I want to be at one of the first seats in front of it .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Anyone care to share? 'Chief Software Architect' at eyeon Software. I basically do programming, application design and internal architecture, third party developer liaison etc. Our company produces software for compositing and visual effects in Film and TV production. Image Processing etc, fun stuff, really. As for doing what my education covered... well.. that would involve having an education :) Self taught, and been messing about with programming since my Dad bought a computer when I was 8 (I'm 36 now). Never finished high school, never went to Uni. Did a brief stint at TAFE (umm.. I dunno what the US equiv of that is... err... tech. college?) doing Electronic Engineering, and decided that wasn't for me. Been programming in a variety of fields ever since. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Cheif Software Architect eyeon Software, http://www.eyeonline.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/01/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I switched from OK to very expensive cables from the CD player to my good old Audiolab amplifier and didn't notice much difference, but from there to the ProAc loudspeakers the wires does, of course, get more important. There's a lot of current passing through them. I've got nice practical cables for my interconnects, inexpensive but good enough to be used for audio, video or digital data, I don't discriminate :-) However for my speaker cables I've used plain old Supra for years, it's good quality low impedance cable (which is ultimately all that matters). I agree. They should have low and frequency- and current-independent impedance within the range suitable for the speakers and amplifier, and the easy way to achieve this is to make them thick. My cables are constituted by two pairs of fairly thick wires positioned so that they make a quadropole. I think the idea is that they make a very simple coaxial cable which does not generate to large external field, but the most important thing is that they can get a lot of current through without rising the resistance. I think my amplifier is capable of pulses at 8A and I'm sure the cables can take a lot more than that. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've found that lowering one's standards is infinitely cheaper. Mark! - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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mike wilson wrote: From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've found that lowering one's standards is infinitely cheaper. Mark! I was way ahead of you on that one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/03 Wed PM 12:58:41 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? mike wilson wrote: From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've found that lowering one's standards is infinitely cheaper. Mark! I was way ahead of you on that one. 8-) Good start to the year. Did you also get: From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll die a bit less stupid. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 2, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Mark Cassino wrote: I'm a secret agent. Sorry, I can't tell you any more... Well, you could tell us more - but you'd have to kill us. :-) I actually did work briefly for the CIA back in the 60s. The project I worked on is still classified. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 03/01/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. They should have low and frequency- and current-independent impedance within the range suitable for the speakers and amplifier, and the easy way to achieve this is to make them thick. My cables are constituted by two pairs of fairly thick wires positioned so that they make a quadropole. I think the idea is that they make a very simple coaxial cable which does not generate to large external field, but the most important thing is that they can get a lot of current through without rising the resistance. I think my amplifier is capable of pulses at 8A and I'm sure the cables can take a lot more than that. My speakers are magneto-planar and so present a fairly resistive 5 ohm load but they are very inefficient so require a lot of power. Thankfully the mono-blocks that I use to drive them will deliver lots and lots of power into a loads as low as 0.6 ohms. And in order to minimize the system impedance so that I can make the most of the very low damping factor of my amps I run a short 1m length of old Supra 10mm2 cable, it keeps the bass tight ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 2, 2007, at 11:13 PM, David Mann wrote: What's a MOSFET? A small explosive. Israeli secret service? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/01/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. They should have low and frequency- and current-independent impedance within the range suitable for the speakers and amplifier, and the easy way to achieve this is to make them thick. My cables are constituted by two pairs of fairly thick wires positioned so that they make a quadropole. I think the idea is that they make a very simple coaxial cable which does not generate to large external field, but the most important thing is that they can get a lot of current through without rising the resistance. I think my amplifier is capable of pulses at 8A and I'm sure the cables can take a lot more than that. My speakers are magneto-planar and so present a fairly resistive 5 ohm load but they are very inefficient so require a lot of power. Thankfully the mono-blocks that I use to drive them will deliver lots and lots of power into a loads as low as 0.6 ohms. And in order to minimize the system impedance so that I can make the most of the very low damping factor of my amps I run a short 1m length of old Supra 10mm2 cable, it keeps the bass tight ;-) .-) I knew a guy who had something like that, and he claimd that he could see the effect of the volume control on the power meter he had for his house. In his case it helped to turn on the stereo if when the house was cold in the winter. If I wasn't before I'd certainly be convinced now I don't need new cables... DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Electrical/electronics engineer by education, but worked for almost 20 years as a software engineer and IT consultant. Started my own business a few years back, developing disk-recovery software that I sell over the internet. The best part of that is working from home, no traffic jams and a lot less work related stress ... Gives me more time for my Pentax hobby as well :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You, know what? That is exactly what I said when stereo came out. Truth be known, I still would rather have a good mono system. DagT wrote: Fra: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). Another thing is that the number of speakers will dominate your livingroom .-) I have no intention to get more than two channels for listening to music. Music has always been made and arranged so that we have the sound coming from a large or small scene so that is enough. Also, a good pair of speakers can make an illustion of three dimensions so you can hear the singer is standing close to you or at a distance. Sorround systems may be OK for movies, but I do not want to feel that I am part of orchestra. I want to be at one of the first seats in front of it .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I wouldn't. I have never been to a concert where the musicians stood in one line behind the front person, but I've been to a lot where they stood in distributed in a plane in front of me. Vocal in the middle, guitar to the right, backing vocals a little bit further away etc... DagT Fra: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] You, know what? That is exactly what I said when stereo came out. Truth be known, I still would rather have a good mono system. DagT wrote: Fra: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). Another thing is that the number of speakers will dominate your livingroom .-) I have no intention to get more than two channels for listening to music. Music has always been made and arranged so that we have the sound coming from a large or small scene so that is enough. Also, a good pair of speakers can make an illustion of three dimensions so you can hear the singer is standing close to you or at a distance. Sorround systems may be OK for movies, but I do not want to feel that I am part of orchestra. I want to be at one of the first seats in front of it .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I have two turntable setups, one optimized for stereo LPs and one optimized for mono LPs. There were too many great mono LPs in the 50's and 60's to not hear them as good as possible. Mono LPs sound much better using a dedicated mono cartridge. The only thing I havent done is use a single speaker in the middle for mono playback, due to ergonomics and economics. As far as mulichannel goes, the more the better, but the problem is there is very very little good multichannel software you can buy. Stereo recordings still are the vast majority of all high quality music recordings ever made and will be so for quite some time to come. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:09 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? I wouldn't. I have never been to a concert where the musicians stood in one line behind the front person, but I've been to a lot where they stood in distributed in a plane in front of me. Vocal in the middle, guitar to the right, backing vocals a little bit further away etc... DagT Fra: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] You, know what? That is exactly what I said when stereo came out. Truth be known, I still would rather have a good mono system. DagT wrote: Fra: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 1/3/07, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it very convenient to have just plain stereo. Even with DVDs and all these multi channel sound tracks I get certain degree of reality. Of course 5+1 or 6+1 setup of similar quality would do better, but it will be real big PITA to haul this thing from one rented apartment to another ;-). Another thing is that the number of speakers will dominate your livingroom .-) I have no intention to get more than two channels for listening to music. Music has always been made and arranged so that we have the sound coming from a large or small scene so that is enough. Also, a good pair of speakers can make an illustion of three dimensions so you can hear the singer is standing close to you or at a distance. Sorround systems may be OK for movies, but I do not want to feel that I am part of orchestra. I want to be at one of the first seats in front of it .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/02 Tue PM 04:18:01 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? ... or you'd have to kill us? We're already dead. Don't you recognise Hell when you see it? Mark Roberts wrote: Mike Hamilton wrote: Anyone care to share? I'm a secret agent. Sorry, I can't tell you any more... -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns on the PDML. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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So did I. But I was wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory Dave On 1/4/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns on the PDML. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Purgatory is a good demonstration of the strange logic of the church. If people go to either heaven or hell when they die, with no remission, then there is no value in praying for them after their death. Since the church insists that prayer is effective, it follows that there must be somewhere that is neither heaven nor hell, the leaving of which depends on the prayers of the living. That place is purgatory. The more people pray for you, the sooner you get out and go to heaven. As luck would have it, you can give the church lots of money and they will have people pray specially for you, which is rather handy. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 03 January 2007 16:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns on the PDML. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So did I. But I was wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory Just to expand slightly (if I accurately recall my days as a Catholic schoolboy), purgatory is where one goes to purge (get it?) one's venial sins from one's soul. One can only be in heaven if one's soul has been cleansed of all sin. The more venial sins on one's soul, the longer one spends in purgatory. Of course, one can get time off if one has indulgences made on one's behalf (modern indulgences, unlike the ones that pissed off Martin Luther, are prayers made on behalf of another). Purgatory was described as a heaven-like place - the only thing that makes a soul sad in purgatory is the absence of God. It frightens me that I remember this... cheers, frank, recovering catholic -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. The Hebrew words Sheol and the greek word Hades, are the words most often rendered as Hell in the KJV and other translations. Sheol means the 'abode of the dead', the 'common grave of mankind', or the 'pit'. Basically it's the grave. When Hebrew was translated to Greek, the word Hades was most often used in place of Sheol. Contrary to what the many so-called Chrsitian religions teach, the Bible teaches that when a human dies, they go to the grave, no conciousiousness remains, they cease to exist. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT: Occupations? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:15:36 - Purgatory is a good demonstration of the strange logic of the church. If people go to either heaven or hell when they die, with no remission, then there is no value in praying for them after their death. Since the church insists that prayer is effective, it follows that there must be somewhere that is neither heaven nor hell, the leaving of which depends on the prayers of the living. That place is purgatory. The more people pray for you, the sooner you get out and go to heaven. As luck would have it, you can give the church lots of money and they will have people pray specially for you, which is rather handy. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 03 January 2007 16:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns on the PDML. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic.snip Indeed! The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other Christian sects believe in it, I don't know). What has Catholicism ever had to do with the Bible? cheers, frank, recovering catholic -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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frank theriault wrote: On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic.snip Indeed! The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other Christian sects believe in it, I don't know). What has Catholicism ever had to do with the Bible? cheers, frank, recovering catholic Purgatory is inferred from one of the Deuterocanonical books (the 7 books of the Old Testament written in Greek that come from the Septaguint Canon of the old testament which was in common use until 300AD and is sill used by Catholic and Orthodox churches, but aren't in the Alexandrian Canon of the Old Testament used by most Protestant Churches). The basis is biblical, but something of a stretch. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:12:55 +0100, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 02 January 2007 22:08, Lucas Rijnders wrote: On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:59:51 +0100, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 2, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: Which is very, very far from what my education prepared me for... I wonder how many of us are doing what our education prepared us for? In my case I majored in zoology I am an industrial design engineer, currently designing playground equipment. Most fun I've had in years :o) Are you also required to test it out? Of course :o) -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic.snip Indeed! The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other Christian sects believe in it, I don't know). What has Catholicism ever had to do with the Bible? cheers, frank, recovering catholic Purgatory is inferred from one of the Deuterocanonical books (the 7 books of the Old Testament written in Greek that come from the Septaguint Canon of the old testament which was in common use until 300AD and is sill used by Catholic and Orthodox churches, but aren't in the Alexandrian Canon of the Old Testament used by most Protestant Churches). The basis is biblical, but something of a stretch. -Adam I guess we can call this the Purgatory Discuss Mailing List now. :-) Inferrence is easy when looking at one statement or passage, but when that inferrence is contradictory to other clear statements, it must be wrong. The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I find it frightening as well. frank theriault wrote: On 1/3/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So did I. But I was wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory Just to expand slightly (if I accurately recall my days as a Catholic schoolboy), purgatory is where one goes to purge (get it?) one's venial sins from one's soul. One can only be in heaven if one's soul has been cleansed of all sin. The more venial sins on one's soul, the longer one spends in purgatory. Of course, one can get time off if one has indulgences made on one's behalf (modern indulgences, unlike the ones that pissed off Martin Luther, are prayers made on behalf of another). Purgatory was described as a heaven-like place - the only thing that makes a soul sad in purgatory is the absence of God. It frightens me that I remember this... cheers, frank, recovering catholic -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi, since I moved to London last year I am a member of IT staff supporting users within Thames Hudson Ltd., book publishers. http://thamesandhudson.co.uk/ Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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All things in the Bible are open to interpretation. Less unambiguous documents than that have had wars fought over them... Tom C wrote: On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic.snip Indeed! The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other Christian sects believe in it, I don't know). What has Catholicism ever had to do with the Bible? cheers, frank, recovering catholic Purgatory is inferred from one of the Deuterocanonical books (the 7 books of the Old Testament written in Greek that come from the Septaguint Canon of the old testament which was in common use until 300AD and is sill used by Catholic and Orthodox churches, but aren't in the Alexandrian Canon of the Old Testament used by most Protestant Churches). The basis is biblical, but something of a stretch. -Adam I guess we can call this the Purgatory Discuss Mailing List now. :-) Inferrence is easy when looking at one statement or passage, but when that inferrence is contradictory to other clear statements, it must be wrong. The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. Tom C. -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/1/07, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone care to share? AP (Airframe and Powerplant), which is a fancy way of saying 'airplane mechanic', and I recently received an IA (Inspection Authorization), which is a fancy way of saying that I have been an AP for three years and can pass a multiple choice test based on rote memorization and reading comprehension. Also, this *is* what I studied for, and what's worse is that I went to university instead of a much quicker and more economical tech school (it's not really worse, it's just more fun to say it that way). I am also a pilot with more ratings than are good for my student loan (single-engine instrument, multi-engine, and a tailwheel endorsement), but I haven't flown since my instrument check-ride because I can't afford $100/hr to rent an airplane. Russ I hear you. I've got almost 600 hours in my Cherokee 180, and rewarded myself this fall by earning a tailwheel (1939 J-4!) and HP/complex in my buddy's PA24-250. I'd like to work on my commercial but I can't justify the $120+/hour for a complex to train. I've though about he AP route, but just for my own maintenance. Getting WAY to expensive to fly anymore... -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic. Well, it's a religion, so it's probably the best that we can expect. However, that wasn't the strange logic that I was referring to. The Hebrew words Sheol and the greek word Hades, are the words most often rendered as Hell in the KJV and other translations. Sheol means the 'abode of the dead', the 'common grave of mankind', or the 'pit'. Basically it's the grave. When Hebrew was translated to Greek, the word Hades was most often used in place of Sheol. Contrary to what the many so-called Chrsitian religions teach, the Bible teaches that when a human dies, they go to the grave, no conciousiousness remains, they cease to exist. Well, isn't that precisely what makes religious books such fun? They let anybody at all have their cake and eat it. For instance, Jesus (according to Matthew) seems to disagree. He reportedly said Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, [...] but lay up for yourself treasures in heaven [...]. I do seem to recall that he spent quite a lot of time promising people jam tomorrow rather than jam today. What's the use of a religion that encourages suffering in this world, and stuff all afterwards? -- Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Sure Peter. There are plenty of statements in the Bible that are pretty unambiguous while some are amiguous. If one chooses to interpret either of them in a way that is at odds with the rest of the book, of what value is it? I can do the same with the directions that come for assembling a piece of furniture. Those can be pretty ambiguous sometimes. Once I get half the screws put in and see that it's assembled incorrectly, most of the ambiguity goes away. :-) If one believes that the Bible is, in essence, authored by God (some do and some don't), then regardless of what you, I, or anyone else thinks, it's likely that the author meant it to be taken one way, just as when you or I make a statement. The Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution. Many arguments over it's intepretation have been fought, but in reality at the time of it's writing, most of what it said was meant in just one way. ... refraining from making this a lengthy discussion on the PDML. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 14:05:50 -0500 All things in the Bible are open to interpretation. Less unambiguous documents than that have had wars fought over them... Tom C wrote: On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one side point... neither purgatory or a burning hell are taught by the Bible. So yes a strange, in fact, false logic.snip Indeed! The concept of purgatory is Roman Catholic dogma (perhaps other Christian sects believe in it, I don't know). What has Catholicism ever had to do with the Bible? cheers, frank, recovering catholic Purgatory is inferred from one of the Deuterocanonical books (the 7 books of the Old Testament written in Greek that come from the Septaguint Canon of the old testament which was in common use until 300AD and is sill used by Catholic and Orthodox churches, but aren't in the Alexandrian Canon of the Old Testament used by most Protestant Churches). The basis is biblical, but something of a stretch. -Adam I guess we can call this the Purgatory Discuss Mailing List now. :-) Inferrence is easy when looking at one statement or passage, but when that inferrence is contradictory to other clear statements, it must be wrong. The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. Tom C. -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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See the Inferno by Dante... On 1/3/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought hell and purgatory were one and the same. The things one learns on the PDML. Shel [Original Message] From: P. J. Alling This ain't hell, this is only purgatory, ya ain't seen hell yet -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cory Papenfuss wrote: I hear you. I've got almost 600 hours in my Cherokee 180, and rewarded myself this fall by earning a tailwheel (1939 J-4!) and HP/complex in my buddy's PA24-250. I'd like to work on my commercial but I can't justify the $120+/hour for a complex to train. On a typical fed-up-with-my-career-want-to-do-something-different day a few months ago I looked in to flight school. Sent away for info and talked to a rep at the PanAm flight academy. For roughly US$60k I could get a commercial, multi-engine, instrument instructor rating (the idea is that you teach to get as many hours as possible) with no prior ratings or experience. The tuition and living expense is easy to finance with loans so it was sounding like a good idea. I asked the school's representative what kind of salary a new pilot could expect $18k to $20k So much for my career change... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Bob W wrote: I do seem to recall that he spent quite a lot of time promising people jam tomorrow rather than jam today. I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Join the Air Force and learn to fly transports... Christian wrote: Cory Papenfuss wrote: I hear you. I've got almost 600 hours in my Cherokee 180, and rewarded myself this fall by earning a tailwheel (1939 J-4!) and HP/complex in my buddy's PA24-250. I'd like to work on my commercial but I can't justify the $120+/hour for a complex to train. On a typical fed-up-with-my-career-want-to-do-something-different day a few months ago I looked in to flight school. Sent away for info and talked to a rep at the PanAm flight academy. For roughly US$60k I could get a commercial, multi-engine, instrument instructor rating (the idea is that you teach to get as many hours as possible) with no prior ratings or experience. The tuition and living expense is easy to finance with loans so it was sounding like a good idea. I asked the school's representative what kind of salary a new pilot could expect $18k to $20k So much for my career change... -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. but do not forget Ecclesiastes 12:6,7 6 Remember [your Creator]—before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. I do not think that Ecc 9:5 means that there is nothing after death, rather that after you die, you no longer are rewarded for what you did in life. Russ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I learned to fly on Piper Cubs (1969) and did my solo in a Super Cub. Then on to a Cherokee 180 (Univerity Flying Club) and finally Cessnas from 140 up to 220. I got an instrument rating in 1965 and ended up with about 440 hours. I don't know where my logbooks are. The last plane I flew was a Cessna with floats in 1983 -- here in Finland -- about three hours. I haven't been in a small plane since. I didn't go on to get a Finnish licence -- far too expensive. D Christian wrote: Cory Papenfuss wrote: I hear you. I've got almost 600 hours in my Cherokee 180, and rewarded myself this fall by earning a tailwheel (1939 J-4!) and HP/complex in my buddy's PA24-250. I'd like to work on my commercial but I can't justify the $120+/hour for a complex to train. On a typical fed-up-with-my-career-want-to-do-something-different day a few months ago I looked in to flight school. Sent away for info and talked to a rep at the PanAm flight academy. For roughly US$60k I could get a commercial, multi-engine, instrument instructor rating (the idea is that you teach to get as many hours as possible) with no prior ratings or experience. The tuition and living expense is easy to finance with loans so it was sounding like a good idea. I asked the school's representative what kind of salary a new pilot could expect $18k to $20k So much for my career change... -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi, oh yes, my problem is even worse - I can not hear the difference between, let's say 10 and 12 gauge power cables. But there's also a good side of the same medal - whilst I'm practically deaf (in audiophilic meaning of this word), I can solder my own interconnects (for 5 USD per cable meter plus another 5 per solid gold-plated RCA plug) and I don't have to spend a fortune to buy specially treated speaker cables (as anything over 5USD/meter sounds the same for me). The same time I can't understand - how some people with such wonderful ears can be SO BLIND that they can't distinguish old Fuji Velvia from new one... awful :))) BR, Margus graywolf wrote: Well, if you can not clearly hear the difference between one brand of 10ga. wire and another, there is something wrong with your hearing. I have been reading some stuff on an audio forum and have finally came to the understanding that what folks who call themselves audiophiles mean by HiFi is excessively loud with a rather over boosted midrange. They do a lot of sneering at the uninformed who think HiFi means excessively loud with over boosted bass. And, of course, dumb old farts like me, always have the treble turned up way too high and can not here the difference between those brands of wire. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. but do not forget Ecclesiastes 12:6,7 6 Remember [your Creator]-before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. I do not think that Ecc 9:5 means that there is nothing after death, rather that after you die, you no longer are rewarded for what you did in life. what, not even a pension? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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P. J. Alling wrote: Join the Air Force and learn to fly transports... I could enlist in the Air Force, but they think I'm too old to fly. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Nope. :-) Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT: Occupations? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:22:51 - On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. but do not forget Ecclesiastes 12:6,7 6 Remember [your Creator]-before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. I do not think that Ecc 9:5 means that there is nothing after death, rather that after you die, you no longer are rewarded for what you did in life. what, not even a pension? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 3/1/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Hey, it's simple, and it does the job. What more do you need? Flash and Gmail. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 04/01/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/07, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: Hey, it's simple, and it does the job. What more do you need? Flash and Gmail. What's that? You want a Gmail account? LOL -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I agree that on is no longer rewarded or punished at the time of death for their lives. The word rendered spirit (pneuma) often refers to breath, as opposed to a soul that is distinct and apart from the body. It's interesting that 1) in Genesis 2:7 that God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man BECAME a living soul. He did not acquire a soul, one was not put inside him, he became one. And 2) the punishment for Adam was to 'return to the dust of the earth', no mention given as to an afterlife anywhere. Psalm 146:4 states: His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish. In addition the concept of an immortal soul with a conciousness that survives the body and goes on to exist somewhere renders moot the concept of a resurrection back to life. If a person is still alive, after dying, no resurrection is required. Tom C. From: Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:05:59 -0700 On 1/3/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The concept of Purgatory clearly contradicts Ecclesiastes 9:5, For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. but do not forget Ecclesiastes 12:6,7 6 Remember [your Creator]before the silver cord is severed, or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or the wheel broken at the well, 7 and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. I do not think that Ecc 9:5 means that there is nothing after death, rather that after you die, you no longer are rewarded for what you did in life. Russ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 2/1/07, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, BUT, it's damn frustrating to be there and not remember what to do with it!! I assume you refer to a ring-binder ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Picky doesn't mean that they know how things work. Some do, most, as always, pretend. BR, Margus J. C. O'Connell wrote: I disagree with that statement. Most serious hi-fi enthusiast are very picky about their amps and tend to care whether they are regular bipolar, mosfet, or tube output circuits because they can each have a characteristic sound unless they really really well implemented which is rare and very expensive. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Margus Männik Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:49 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? I suspect that most of the hi-fi enthusiasts don't know and doesn't care what MOSFET stands for and what it really means... ;) BRM J. C. O'Connell wrote: You guys are obviously not hi-fi enthusiasts. Those have been used in some audio amps for decades. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Savage Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Metal Oxide Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOSFET Aren't you glad you asked. :-) Dave (I had no idea either) At 01:28 AM 3/01/2007, Shel Belinkoff wrote: What's a MOSFET? Shel [Original Message] From: Mat Maessen I can tell you [...] how to properly bias MOSFETs though -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 04/01/07, Margus Männik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Picky doesn't mean that they know how things work. Some do, most, as always, pretend. I've got my MP3 coding/decoding chain pretty sorted now and I'd love to execute a double blind listening test on some golden eared audiophiles. I'm sure there would be some red faces afterwards and one of them wouldn't be mine ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 04/01/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Psalm 146:4 states: His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish. In addition the concept of an immortal soul with a conciousness that survives the body and goes on to exist somewhere renders moot the concept of a resurrection back to life. If a person is still alive, after dying, no resurrection is required. It's all very interesting but what's it got to do with HiFi? ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Flash and Gmail. On 4/1/07, Digital Image Studio, discombobulated, unleashed: What's that? You want a Gmail account? LOL Sorry, forgot to switch on sardonicism !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Occupations? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:51:19 +1100 On 04/01/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Psalm 146:4 states: His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish. In addition the concept of an immortal soul with a conciousness that survives the body and goes on to exist somewhere renders moot the concept of a resurrection back to life. If a person is still alive, after dying, no resurrection is required. It's all very interesting but what's it got to do with HiFi? ;-) -- Rob Studdert LOL. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
