Re: PESO: Moon Abstract
My "abstract" obviously is not a fake. Who would fake that? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Oops.. Sorry, by mistake, I posted it as a reply to a wrong thread. > > Igor > > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > >> >> Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also >> full of ... smoke. >> >> One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly >> formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was >> practically dismissed by others. >> >> They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get >> this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his living >> from the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody thought >> that it would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) next to >> the moon, that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost full) moon. >> (Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, which is >> the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, as you >> are looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the eastern >> portion of the sky is red like this.) >> >> What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how >> my physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found >> some images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise) >> sky. And those are clearly fake. >> Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, - >> the link to the original photo is dead): >> http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon- >> at-sunset.html >> >> That's clearly a fake! >> >> While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question >> could not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes >> (the size of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to >> be in the same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not. >> (You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at >> this small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this much of >> detail.) >> But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment. >> >> But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter >> Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that. >> >> Igor >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;) >>> >>> Here are some examples of what came out: >>> http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/ >>> >>> >>> Igor >>> >>> >>> Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote: >>> >>> Did you get anything interesting? >>> >>> >> > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Moon Abstract
Oops.. Sorry, by mistake, I posted it as a reply to a wrong thread. Igor On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also full of ... smoke. One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was practically dismissed by others. They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his living from the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody thought that it would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) next to the moon, that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost full) moon. (Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, which is the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, as you are looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the eastern portion of the sky is red like this.) What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how my physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found some images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise) sky. And those are clearly fake. Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, - the link to the original photo is dead): http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon-at-sunset.html That's clearly a fake! While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question could not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes (the size of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to be in the same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not. (You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at this small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this much of detail.) But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment. But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that. Igor On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;) Here are some examples of what came out: http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/ Igor Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote: Did you get anything interesting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Moon Abstract
Finally, I've watched (most of) the video, and these "experts" are also full of ... smoke. One of the guys mentioned the issue noted by Mark (albeit not as clearly formulated as Mark's), - the clouds behind the moon. But it was practically dismissed by others. They were mumbling about the sunset, saying it would be possible to get this light and this color, and one guy bragged about making his living from the twilight photographs. - But until almost the end, nobody thought that it would be non-physical to have red sunset colors (backlit) next to the moon, that is opposite to the sun during the full (or almost full) moon. (Just in case it is not obvious: the moon is full when the sun, which is the source of the light is on the opposite site, i.e. behind you, as you are looking at the moon. And I haven't seen a sunset when the eastern portion of the sky is red like this.) What's funny is that I googled images for moon and sunset, - to see how my physics-based argument holds against photos. To my surprise, I've found some images where the moon is superimposed over the sunset (or sunrise) sky. And those are clearly fake. Here is just one example (referenced as a photo by Castillo, - the link to the original photo is dead): http://planetearthandhumanity.blogspot.com/2013/07/our-moon-at-sunset.html That's clearly a fake! While, it is beyond any doubt to me that the original photo in question could not be done in a single shot, - I was curious if the angular sizes (the size of the rock or tree vs. the size of the moon) are compatible to be in the same shot in general. I have a feeling, - they are not. (You'd have to be too far away from the rock and the tree to see them at this small angular size, - to be able to photograph them with this much of detail.) But I am too lazy to do a careful geometrical consideration at the moment. But I have a big physics(astronomy)-based concern about yet another Peter Lik's photo... -I 'll send a separate message about that. Igor On Sun, 4 Feb 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;) Here are some examples of what came out: http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/ Igor Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote: Did you get anything interesting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Moon Abstract
Nothing to write home about. .. err. to PDML. ;) Here are some examples of what came out: http://42graphy.org/misc/2018-01-31-eclipse/ Igor Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 02 Feb 2018 10:13:47 -0800 wrote: Did you get anything interesting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Moon Abstract
Thanks for looking and thanks for your comments, Igor. We had a bit of a Kona breeze that evening, so there was a bit of moisture in the air, possibly enhanced by the lawn sprinkler the development runs at night. Did you get anything interesting? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > It's an interesting effect - with colors. > > I wonder why you'd get this dispersion. You aren't in a cold area where > one might get tiny water crystals in the air or anything like that... > And you were not shooting through a plastic airplane window with a > polarizer. Ghm... > > Dan, what did you do to you Tamron 70-300? Is it so beaten up that > colorful bruisings show up in photos? ;-) > > Funny enough, - I was also trying to shoot it (without much of advanced > preparation) with K-5 IIs, and one of the lenses I tried was the same > Tamron 70-300/4-5.6. > > Cheers, > > Igor > > > > > Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 01 Feb 2018 18:19:47 -0800 wrote: > > I was just fooling around with the "Super Moon," and quite was surprised > -- and somewhat pleased -- to see this rather unusual result: > > > http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/2/ > 1/moon-abstract > > K-5 IIs, Tamron 75-300 1;4-5.6 TELEMACRO > Comments are invited. > > Dan Matyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Moon Abstract
It's an interesting effect - with colors. I wonder why you'd get this dispersion. You aren't in a cold area where one might get tiny water crystals in the air or anything like that... And you were not shooting through a plastic airplane window with a polarizer. Ghm... Dan, what did you do to you Tamron 70-300? Is it so beaten up that colorful bruisings show up in photos? ;-) Funny enough, - I was also trying to shoot it (without much of advanced preparation) with K-5 IIs, and one of the lenses I tried was the same Tamron 70-300/4-5.6. Cheers, Igor Daniel J. Matyola Thu, 01 Feb 2018 18:19:47 -0800 wrote: I was just fooling around with the "Super Moon," and quite was surprised -- and somewhat pleased -- to see this rather unusual result: http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/2/1/moon-abstract K-5 IIs, Tamron 75-300 1;4-5.6 TELEMACRO Comments are invited. Dan Matyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
