Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Eric Weir]

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 5:41 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> What the vociferous pros and antis don't seem to realise is that there is no 
> gain without some pain (for the benefit of the whole thing). Moderates 
> realise this and we knuckle down and make best of it.

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Not that it's an unpleasant place to hang out. :-)

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G

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> ...
> I think I will relinquish this thread back to the OP, and go get dressed 
> ready to pick up Godfrey from his pub bed and breakfast. We have a little 
> sightseeing planned for today and I'm running late!
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/9/18, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Actually BREXIT is the nationalist "Make England Great Again" dogma.
>Happening all over the globe, a tenor of the times perhaps?

The way I interpret it is less about making England great again, more about 
relying less - not at all even - on the EU dictating what England can and 
cannot do. But really, if you join a club, you play by the rules right? Or you 
lobby to change the rules with the agreement of other players through 
democracy. Or you decide not to play any more.

Working in the media and having access to both pro and anti advocates, I can 
understand both sides of the argument. What the vociferous pros and antis don't 
seem to realise is that there is no gain without some pain (for the benefit of 
the whole thing). Moderates realise this and we knuckle down and make best of 
it.

I think I will relinquish this thread back to the OP, and go get dressed ready 
to pick up Godfrey from his pub bed and breakfast. We have a little sightseeing 
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 8/9/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

> If we had voted to remain, the leavers would have just started work on
>another referendum, no?

Yes of course.

>It's what would have happened if the result was opposite.  Both the
>result and the process are divisive and damaging.  If we reverse the
>result, at least it will only be the process that is problematic.  We
>also need to see a few of the major con artists (of whatever persuasion)
>to serve major prison sentences, pour encourager les autres. 8 -)

Yep I'm with you there. The whole process may have been actually contrary to 
the laws of the land? However, unpicking it could be worse IMO.

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Paul Stenquist]

Actually BREXIT is the nationalist “Make England Great Again” dogma. Happening 
all over the globe, a tenor of the times perhaps?

Paul

On Sep 7, 2018, at 8:08 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

>> I like the idea of a government in the future *bringing us back in*..
> 
> Making Britan Great Again ...?
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" 
> Subject: Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG
> 
> 
>> On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> Methinks the British voters have been fooled into a decision that goes
>>> diametrically against their interests and should be given a second
>>> chance before it's too late.
>> 
>> I agree with you Ralf, but it won't happen. Not without a change of 
>> government and even then it's very doubtful.
>> 
>> The problem is that a second referendum could lead to far worse consequences 
>> for us. Remember the 'poll tax' riots under Thatcher? I do. And that was 
>> just a silly taxation method. This is far greater a thing, and with possibly 
>> far worse consequences for us as a nation if we start battling each other, 
>> literally.
>> 
>> I like the idea of a government in the future *bringing us back in*..
>> 
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>> 
>> Cheers,
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Ken Waller]

I like the idea of a government in the future *bringing us back in*..


Making Britan Great Again ...?

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Subject: Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG



On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:


Methinks the British voters have been fooled into a decision that goes
diametrically against their interests and should be given a second
chance before it's too late.


I agree with you Ralf, but it won't happen. Not without a change of 
government and even then it's very doubtful.


The problem is that a second referendum could lead to far worse 
consequences for us. Remember the 'poll tax' riots under Thatcher? I do. 
And that was just a silly taxation method. This is far greater a thing, 
and with possibly far worse consequences for us as a nation if we start 
battling each other, literally.


I like the idea of a government in the future *bringing us back in*..

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[mike wilson]

> On 07 September 2018 at 19:28 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/9/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >And, if it had voted to leave, do you think we would not be well on the
> >way to another referendum?
> 
> Sorry Mike I don't understand the question - might be me just being thick 
> mate.

Not you, me.  Missed a "not" after "voted".  If we had voted to remain, the 
leavers would have just started work on another referendum, no?

> 
> >Not so much its existence but the methodology (one vote can decide) that
> >was at fault.
> 
> Agree completely!!
> 
> This system is at fault. By this I don't mean the method of democracy, I mena 
> the mine of misinformation that was perpetrated in both campaigns. Utterly 
> disgraceful charade, the whole fucking thing. A shambles.
> 
> But having another ref after-the-fact could be a worse disaster. don't you 
> think?

It's what would have happened if the result was opposite.  Both the result and 
the process are divisive and damaging.  If we reverse the result, at least it 
will only be the process that is problematic.  We also need to see a few of the 
major con artists (of whatever persuasion) to serve major prison sentences, 
pour encourager les autres. 8 -)

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/9/18, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>And, if it had voted to leave, do you think we would not be well on the
>way to another referendum?

Sorry Mike I don't understand the question - might be me just being thick mate.

>Not so much its existence but the methodology (one vote can decide) that
>was at fault.

Agree completely!!

This system is at fault. By this I don't mean the method of democracy, I mena 
the mine of misinformation that was perpetrated in both campaigns. Utterly 
disgraceful charade, the whole fucking thing. A shambles.

But having another ref after-the-fact could be a worse disaster. don't you 
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[mike wilson]

> On 07 September 2018 at 00:28 Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Why do you say there is no going back?
> 
> Because a referendum was held. It was a very close call, but the country 
> voted to leave.

And, if it had voted to leave, do you think we would not be well on the way to 
another referendum?

> 
> I personally don't believe we should have had a referendum at all. We live in 
> a parliamentary democracy - we vote the members of parliament in, and they 
> are there to represent us and out views. Even if one lives in (say a 
> Conservative) constituency, and one is a Labour voter, that should not 
> prevent any constituent from going to see their MP and voicing concern.
> 
> The vote was held, some would say foolishly, and the result must stand.

Not so much its existence but the methodology (one vote can decide) that was at 
fault.

> 
> There has been a lot of calling for a 2nd referendum. Nonesense in my view. 
> Maybe we should have a 3rd and a 4th as well? Have one or none at all.
> 
> I think there might have been mileage in Labour going into a snap election on 
> a 'Stay in Europe' ticket, but there are 2 things wrong with that - 1) Labour 
> have come out in support of the referendum and 2) the current leader - Jeremy 
> Corbyn - is unelectable in my opinion. Labour has no chance with him in 
> power, but worse - there's no chance of replacing him anytime soon - too many 
> party activists love him, and they are not as old as you might think! It's a 
> Catch-22 that will run for a while yet.
> 
> Many thought Theresa may would be stabbed in the back and tipped into the 
> nearest dumpster ages ago - yet she clings on. Mainly because there is no 
> credible alternative - yet. Some thought Boris was jockeying - and he still 
> could be - but I think that, too, is a dud scenario.
> 
> Mark my words - keep your eye on Jeremy Hunt. Currently Foreign Secretary, he 
> is just the kind of weedy, limp-handshaking, middle-of-the-road, steady- 
> as-she-goes, with a bit of patriotic-jingoism-thrown-in-for-good-measure-type 
> of weedy politician that typically succeeds to become leader of the party.
> 
> What can we do? May is totally ineffectual, Boris is a madman, Hunt is a 
> total twat, Corbyn a withered has-been dragging his apparatchiks along, and 
> nobody with any stamina or passion waiting in the sidelines long enough to 
> stick there head above the parapet before it's (in the words of a mr C 
> Eastwood) 'blown clean off'.
> 
> 
> >I have no opinion as to what the UK should do, but if Brexit is a mistake,
> >someone should bite the bullet and undo it.
> 
> Define 'mistake' !
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

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On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:06 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Are you allowed to say that on this forum?
>
> Alan C
>
> On 07-Sep-18 04:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > You folks from the UK and EU have NO ideas how daft politics can be!
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post.  :-)
> >>
> >> G
> >> —
> >> No matter where you go, politics is daft.
> >>
> >>
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Alan C]

Are you allowed to say that on this forum?

Alan C

On 07-Sep-18 04:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

You folks from the UK and EU have NO ideas how daft politics can be!

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:


Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post.  :-)

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You folks from the UK and EU have NO ideas how daft politics can be!

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On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 5:16 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post.  :-)
>
> G
> —
> No matter where you go, politics is daft.
>
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>No matter where you go, politics is daft.

AMEN TO THAT !!

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post.  :-)

Especially as you are in Brexitland right now !!!

I will be checking your passport shortly

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Interesting discussion if rather far afield of a PESO post.  :-)

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>How about: something that in all probability will end in tears, misery 
>and mayhem?

And yes, that's possible - latest thoughts from Blair:



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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Steve Cottrell]

On 7/9/18, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Methinks the British voters have been fooled into a decision that goes 
>diametrically against their interests and should be given a second 
>chance before it's too late.

I agree with you Ralf, but it won't happen. Not without a change of government 
and even then it's very doubtful.

The problem is that a second referendum could lead to far worse consequences 
for us. Remember the 'poll tax' riots under Thatcher? I do. And that was just a 
silly taxation method. This is far greater a thing, and with possibly far worse 
consequences for us as a nation if we start battling each other, literally.

I like the idea of a government in the future *bringing us back in*..

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 07.09.18 um 01:28 schrieb Steve Cottrell:


Define 'mistake' !


How about: something that in all probability will end in tears, misery 
and mayhem?


Even Rees-Mogg admits that no-one who voted for Brexit will live to see 
the good that might perhaps come out of it in a century or two.


Just wait until Operation Stack* has become a permanent fixture on the 
M20, all the way up to London, and your industry will come to a grinding 
halt for lack of parts and supplies while foreign companies leave the UK 
in droves. Fancy a return to the 3-day-week and power cuts, this time 
not because of the unions but a bunch of rich kids who pulled the 
greatest stunt in British history just for the heck of it and without a 
care in the world about the consequences?


Methinks the British voters have been fooled into a decision that goes 
diametrically against their interests and should be given a second 
chance before it's too late.


Ralf

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[Steve Cottrell]

On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Why do you say there is no going back?

Because a referendum was held. It was a very close call, but the country voted 
to leave.

I personally don't believe we should have had a referendum at all. We live in a 
parliamentary democracy - we vote the members of parliament in, and they are 
there to represent us and out views. Even if one lives in (say a Conservative) 
constituency, and one is a Labour voter, that should not prevent any 
constituent from going to see their MP and voicing concern.

The vote was held, some would say foolishly, and the result must stand.

There has been a lot of calling for a 2nd referendum. Nonesense in my view. 
Maybe we should have a 3rd and a 4th as well? Have one or none at all.

I think there might have been mileage in Labour going into a snap election on a 
'Stay in Europe' ticket, but there are 2 things wrong with that - 1) Labour 
have come out in support of the referendum and 2) the current leader - Jeremy 
Corbyn - is unelectable in my opinion. Labour has no chance with him in power, 
but worse - there's no chance of replacing him anytime soon - too many party 
activists love him, and they are not as old as you might think! It's a Catch-22 
that will run for a while yet.

Many thought Theresa may would be stabbed in the back and tipped into the 
nearest dumpster ages ago - yet she clings on. Mainly because there is no 
credible alternative - yet. Some thought Boris was jockeying - and he still 
could be - but I think that, too, is a dud scenario.

Mark my words - keep your eye on Jeremy Hunt. Currently Foreign Secretary, he 
is just the kind of weedy, limp-handshaking, middle-of-the-road, steady- 
as-she-goes, with a bit of patriotic-jingoism-thrown-in-for-good-measure-type 
of weedy politician that typically succeeds to become leader of the party.

What can we do? May is totally ineffectual, Boris is a madman, Hunt is a total 
twat, Corbyn a withered has-been dragging his apparatchiks along, and nobody 
with any stamina or passion waiting in the sidelines long enough to stick there 
head above the parapet before it's (in the words of a mr C Eastwood) 'blown 
clean off'.


>I have no opinion as to what the UK should do, but if Brexit is a mistake,
>someone should bite the bullet and undo it.

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[Daniel J. Matyola]

Why do you say there is no going back?

I have no opinion as to what the UK should do, but if Brexit is a mistake,
someone should bite the bullet and undo it.

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On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 6:56 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit?
>
> Yes of course.
>
> I think there will be some Picardpalms and maybe a bit of mayhem,
> definitely there will be much gnashing of teeth, but nobody's gonna die, I
> hope. The whole thing was a sham, the whole vote 'leave' campaign was a
> joke, and not enough youngsters turned out to vote and well, there ya go.
> It's done now though so there's no going back - the only thing I agree with
> T May about. It's a crying shame but it's gonna happen. Actually Europe
> itself is terrified more than we are. Just wait til we don't melt down, and
> things stabilise, and maybe even prosper. It could still start an avalanche
> that could wreck the EU.
>
> Things have a way of smoothing out.
>
> There's much more danger from the likes of Putin I reckon.
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[Steve Cottrell]

On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit?

Yes of course.

I think there will be some Picardpalms and maybe a bit of mayhem, definitely 
there will be much gnashing of teeth, but nobody's gonna die, I hope. The whole 
thing was a sham, the whole vote 'leave' campaign was a joke, and not enough 
youngsters turned out to vote and well, there ya go. It's done now though so 
there's no going back - the only thing I agree with T May about. It's a crying 
shame but it's gonna happen. Actually Europe itself is terrified more than we 
are. Just wait til we don't melt down, and things stabilise, and maybe even 
prosper. It could still start an avalanche that could wreck the EU.

Things have a way of smoothing out.

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Actually, you are not that far off.  My third, and most recent, visit to
the UK was in April 2008.

Will the UK survive all the fighting over Brexit?

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On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of
> rubber
> >eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee?
>
> I love how Dan is still living in 1968 at RAF Coningsby playing a
> harmonica sat on the wing of that Phantom ;-)
>
>
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RE: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[John Coyle]

You should try being in Italy, where you sometimes have to order and pay first 
at the cash desk (and I speak only very basic Italian) before getting your 
order - and they never say if that applies! But we're loving it, another week 
to go...

John (now in Salerno)

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That will do, I guess, until the Proletariat Revolution comes. :-)

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> On Sep 6, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
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> Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 
> forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages 
> pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day 
> to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be 
> banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into 
> this blessed realm.

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[P. J. Alling]

Good we get to keep our under-cooked vegetables and overcooked 
hamburgers, all to ourselves.  Life is good.



On 9/6/2018 11:09 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

You'll just have to make do with wholesome American food.


On 6 Sep 2018, at 16:06, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

"none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm."

How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber
eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee?

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How


On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to
1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden
carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare
every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness
will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be
allowed into this blessed realm.


On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi 

wrote:

Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx!

I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he

wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter
service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-)

G


On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on

premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the
value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM.

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

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On 6/9/18, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber
>eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee?

I love how Dan is still living in 1968 at RAF Coningsby playing a harmonica sat 
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[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

That will do, I guess, until the Proletariat Revolution comes. :-)

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> On Sep 6, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 
> forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages 
> pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day 
> to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be 
> banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into 
> this blessed realm.

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You'll just have to make do with wholesome American food.

> On 6 Sep 2018, at 16:06, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> "none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm."
> 
> How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber
> eggs, raw bacon, blood sausage, and instant coffee?
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> How
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to
>> 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden
>> carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare
>> every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness
>> will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be
>> allowed into this blessed realm.
>> 
>>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx!
>>> 
>>> I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he
>> wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter
>> service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-)
>>> 
>>> G
>>> 
 On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
 
 If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on
>> premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the
>> value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM.
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

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"none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed realm."

How would we ever survive without those "full English Breakfasts" of rubber
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On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:42 AM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to
> 1953 forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden
> carriages pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare
> every day to be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness
> will be banished from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be
> allowed into this blessed realm.
>
> > On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx!
> >
> > I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he
> wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter
> service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-)
> >
> > G
> >
> >> On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> >>
> >> If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on
> premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the
> value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM.
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Don't worry, as of 29 Mar next year we'll be winding the clocks back to 1953 
forever. There won't be any tax, we'll all get around in golden carriages 
pulled by unicorn zebras, King Jacob and Queen Boris will declare every day to 
be Royal Wedding Day, the NHS will close down because illness will be banished 
from these shores, and none of you foreigners will be allowed into this blessed 
realm.

> On 6 Sep 2018, at 00:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx!
> 
> I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he wants 
> take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter service 
> and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-)
> 
> G
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on 
>> premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the 
>> value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM.
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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

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On 6/9/18, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he
>wants take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter
>service and just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-)

It's a load of old fetid bollocks. A throwback to the dark ages!

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Re: PESO 2018 - 096? - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Ah, so that's what the fuss was about. Thanx!

I wonder how a foreigner is supposed to know that if no one asks if he wants 
take out or eat in? And when the cafe right next door does counter service and 
just lets you sit down afterwards...? ;-)

G

> On Sep 5, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on 
> premises you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the 
> value-add). I assume they have VAT on the IOM.

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If you buy a takeaway you don't pay VAT, whereas if you buy to eat on premises 
you pay VAT (value-added tax - eating on the premises is the value-add). I 
assume they have VAT on the IOM.


> On 2 Sep 2018, at 23:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I must live a fairly tame existence because I've always had a lot of good 
> times here and haven't done anything illegal that I'm aware of... No one's 
> flogged me yet, although I did get yelled at by a shopkeeper the other day. 
> Something about I can't sit down at a table if I've ordered take-out. 
> 
> I didn't understand the hubbub so I just walked 30 yards away and sat at a 
> public bench for lunch. :-)
> 
> G
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:09 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a nice shot, like the texture.
>> 
>> I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything worth doing is 
>> illegal there, and they flog you for it. A bit like a cold, wet version of 
>> Saudi Arabia, plus Jeremy Clarkson to top it all off.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> On 2 Sep 2018, at 22:29, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I 
>>> had problems getting the focus correct. 
>>> 
>>> I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was 
>>> actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh? 
>>> It works in a fashion. I do want to head back there tomorrow and get 
>>> something a bit more sharp ... and the light will likely be entirely 
>>> different. 
>>> 
>>> https://flic.kr/p/2aGsKWv
>>> 
>>> Ach, just one more full day on the Island and then off to England! I love 
>>> this place. 
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[Jack Davis]

Cup and bowl still need to be moved.

J(:-)


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> On Sep 2, 2018, at 3:15 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I like it too, soft or not... favorite is the black and white with the cup on 
> the old wooden table... and the odd motor bike in front of the brick home.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 9/2/2018 6:09 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
>> That's a nice shot, like the texture.
>> 
>> I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything worth doing is 
>> illegal there, and they flog you for it. A bit like a cold, wet version of 
>> Saudi Arabia, plus Jeremy Clarkson to top it all off.
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> On 2 Sep 2018, at 22:29, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I 
>>> had problems getting the focus correct.
>>> 
>>> I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was 
>>> actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh? 
>>> It works in a fashion. I do want to head back there tomorrow and get 
>>> something a bit more sharp ... and the light will likely be entirely 
>>> different.
>>> 
>>>  https://flic.kr/p/2aGsKWv
>>> 
>>> Ach, just one more full day on the Island and then off to England! I love 
>>> this place.
>>> 
>>> enjoy,
>>> G
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well seen and composed.

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On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 5:29 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I
> had problems getting the focus correct.
>
> I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was
> actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh?
> It works in a fashion. I do want to head back there tomorrow and get
> something a bit more sharp ... and the light will likely be entirely
> different.
>
>   https://flic.kr/p/2aGsKWv
>
> Ach, just one more full day on the Island and then off to England! I love
> this place.
>
> enjoy,
> G
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[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks!

I must live a fairly tame existence because I've always had a lot of good times 
here and haven't done anything illegal that I'm aware of... No one's flogged me 
yet, although I did get yelled at by a shopkeeper the other day. Something 
about I can't sit down at a table if I've ordered take-out. 

I didn't understand the hubbub so I just walked 30 yards away and sat at a 
public bench for lunch. :-)

G

> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:09 PM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> That's a nice shot, like the texture.
> 
> I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything worth doing is 
> illegal there, and they flog you for it. A bit like a cold, wet version of 
> Saudi Arabia, plus Jeremy Clarkson to top it all off.
> 
> B
> 
>> On 2 Sep 2018, at 22:29, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> 
>> This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I 
>> had problems getting the focus correct. 
>> 
>> I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was 
>> actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh? It 
>> works in a fashion. I do want to head back there tomorrow and get something 
>> a bit more sharp ... and the light will likely be entirely different. 
>> 
>> https://flic.kr/p/2aGsKWv
>> 
>> Ach, just one more full day on the Island and then off to England! I love 
>> this place. 

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I like it too, soft or not... favorite is the black and white with the 
cup on the old wooden table... and the odd motor bike in front of the 
brick home.


ann

On 9/2/2018 6:09 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

That's a nice shot, like the texture.

I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything worth doing is 
illegal there, and they flog you for it. A bit like a cold, wet version of 
Saudi Arabia, plus Jeremy Clarkson to top it all off.

B


On 2 Sep 2018, at 22:29, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I had 
problems getting the focus correct.

I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was 
actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh? It 
works in a fashion. I do want to head back there tomorrow and get something a 
bit more sharp ... and the light will likely be entirely different.

  https://flic.kr/p/2aGsKWv

Ach, just one more full day on the Island and then off to England! I love this 
place.

enjoy,
G
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That's a nice shot, like the texture.

I've never been to the Isle of Man. Apparently everything worth doing is 
illegal there, and they flog you for it. A bit like a cold, wet version of 
Saudi Arabia, plus Jeremy Clarkson to top it all off.

B

> On 2 Sep 2018, at 22:29, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> This morning at the Peel breakwater it was soft and drizzly, blowy, and I had 
> problems getting the focus correct. 
> 
> I realized, after looking at the exposures I made, that the soft focus was 
> actually part of what I was seeing ... Not exactly what I wanted, but eh? It 
> works in a fashion. I do want to head back there tomorrow and get something a 
> bit more sharp ... and the light will likely be entirely different. 
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/2aGsKWv
> 
> Ach, just one more full day on the Island and then off to England! I love 
> this place. 
> 
> enjoy,
> G
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