Re: if microsoft made cameras
I am not quite sure if you are aware of what Linux looks like today. I am running SuSE8.1, and it is far from that. On Wednesday 22 January 2003 23:01, Christian Skofteland wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2003 16:40, Frits Wüthrich wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 14:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I own a Macintosh And that's why I use Linux I was going to respond to this thread originally with Linux comments. Here they are: If Linux made cameras they would give you a light tight box, paper and silver salts. How you use it is up to you. Some people would be satisfied with pin-hole cameras and rudimentery film. Others would grind their own lenses and develop there own versions of SLRs, view cameras, rangefinders, etc. and provide instructions and materials to whomever wanted to build them. Many would come up with similar bodies and lenses but none would be exactly compatible with any others. Large corporations would try to find ways to make money off of them and try to introduce standards that would never take hold. Christian -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
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On Thursday 23 January 2003 18:41, Frits Wüthrich wrote: I am not quite sure if you are aware of what Linux looks like today. I am running SuSE8.1, and it is far from that. I'm a Solaris and Linux System Administrator. I've been playing with it for 5 years. My workstation at work is running RedHat 8 with VMWare running Windows 2000. Yes it has come a long way. I was making a joke based on previous OS related jokes (airlines, cars, etc) which makes Linux out to be a highly customizable, user-configurable, nuts-and-bolts system. Linux is great, Windows has it's place on the desktop and for groupware and I've no experience with Mac. Christian On Wednesday 22 January 2003 23:01, Christian Skofteland wrote: I was going to respond to this thread originally with Linux comments. Here they are: If Linux made cameras they would give you a light tight box, paper and silver salts. How you use it is up to you. Some people would be satisfied with pin-hole cameras and rudimentery film. Others would grind their own lenses and develop there own versions of SLRs, view cameras, rangefinders, etc. and provide instructions and materials to whomever wanted to build them. Many would come up with similar bodies and lenses but none would be exactly compatible with any others. Large corporations would try to find ways to make money off of them and try to introduce standards that would never take hold. Christian
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On Monday 20 January 2003 14:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I own a Macintosh And that's why I use Linux -- Frits Wüthrich send with Kmail
Re: if microsoft made cameras
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 16:40, Frits Wüthrich wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 14:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's why I own a Macintosh And that's why I use Linux I was going to respond to this thread originally with Linux comments. Here they are: If Linux made cameras they would give you a light tight box, paper and silver salts. How you use it is up to you. Some people would be satisfied with pin-hole cameras and rudimentery film. Others would grind their own lenses and develop there own versions of SLRs, view cameras, rangefinders, etc. and provide instructions and materials to whomever wanted to build them. Many would come up with similar bodies and lenses but none would be exactly compatible with any others. Large corporations would try to find ways to make money off of them and try to introduce standards that would never take hold. Christian
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..and if you cant figure out why it isnt firing, you would be asked to shut off and restart, which will work 95% of times and nobody can convincingly tell you why. - Original Message - Subject: if microsoft made cameras
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Well unfortunately if Apple made cameras they would take a standard size film and produce a negative that would somehow not work in a standard size negative carrier. At 09:53 AM 1/20/2003 -0600, you wrote: And that's why I'm THANKFUL I own a Macintosh. g The funniest one of these I've seen over the years was one called If Microsoft Made Automobiles. Does anyone happen to have a copy of that one? It was really funny--things like, Every now and then, for no apparent reason, the motor would stop. Everyone would have to get out of the car, slam the doors, then get back in before it would start again. (For all you MS apologists, yes, I know the above is outdated, I know XP is wonderful, I know I'm out of touch for liking Macs, yadda yadda yadda. Please don¹t bother pointing all this out again.) --Mike P.S. I have to admit that my current iMac is the worst Mac I've ever owned. It's almost as good as a PC, and I'm actually running MS software on the damned thing (IE and Word). I'm not going gently into this good night, however. The market, in its infinite wisdom, has optimized and evolved the desktop computer into a sullied morass of LCD mediocrity. That's why I own a Macintosh In a message dated 1/20/03 12:23:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's imagine for a moment that Microsoft buys out C and N and made cameras. Every year or two they would introduce new cameras and they would not accept the same film, lenses, filters, flash units, tripods, batteries, etc. as the previous version, and could not be modified to do so. They would not work with any other manuafacturers components only with microsoft specified products. So complete brand loyalty would be required so none of us would ever buy a tamron or tokina again. Each lens will be required to routinely misfocus and over expose for no reason Loading film would take 5 hours as the camera refuses to regonise the film iso and wont let you do it manually. Would be 70% bigger with more features than the last camera of which 99% of those features we never used. They would come with a 10 day warranty and a customer service whose phone was always busy and which ignored e-mail and regular mail letters. If you ever did reach a human you would be told that the problem was obviously your fault. Periodically, just when you were ready to take a once-in-a-lifetime photograph the camera would freeze up and refuse to work. Periodically the company would come out with upgrades, but when you got them you would find that the instructions were incomplete or wrong and the parts would not fit anyway. Cameras would be manufactured identical to first prototypes with no testing or debugging so that the company could have its customers do its work for it. Finally they would buy out Pentax , minolta, contax (leaving only leica for those who can afford it and sigma (who now has a cult following) who will give their cameras away for free and allow any one to build their camera or lens) there is no competition Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
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adphoto wrote: Let's imagine for a moment that Microsoft buys out C and N and made cameras (snip, snip) Didn't need to read any more than that to gasp in horror :) But I'm glad I did - I've hardly read any mail for a few days cause im down with a nasty cold in the frigid NYC area and even typing seems incredibly difficult - but just had to applaud your comic turn. annsan (oh mygod it is the 20th! I have to find some digits for the PUG!)
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Mike, You're jab is outdated. XP is wonderful. You're out of touch for liking Macs. Have a great day! vbg -frank Mike Johnston wrote: And that's why I'm THANKFUL I own a Macintosh. g The funniest one of these I've seen over the years was one called If Microsoft Made Automobiles. Does anyone happen to have a copy of that one? It was really funny--things like, Every now and then, for no apparent reason, the motor would stop. Everyone would have to get out of the car, slam the doors, then get back in before it would start again. (For all you MS apologists, yes, I know the above is outdated, I know XP is wonderful, I know I'm out of touch for liking Macs, yadda yadda yadda. Please don¹t bother pointing all this out again.) --Mike P.S. I have to admit that my current iMac is the worst Mac I've ever owned. It's almost as good as a PC, and I'm actually running MS software on the damned thing (IE and Word). I'm not going gently into this good night, however. The market, in its infinite wisdom, has optimized and evolved the desktop computer into a sullied morass of LCD mediocrity. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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Frank's losing it! Three demonstrably false statements in one line of text. Sighhh. keith whaley frank theriault wrote: Mike, You're jab is outdated. XP is wonderful. You're out of touch for liking Macs. Have a great day! vbg -frank Mike Johnston wrote: And that's why I'm THANKFUL I own a Macintosh. g The funniest one of these I've seen over the years was one called If Microsoft Made Automobiles. Does anyone happen to have a copy of that one? It was really funny--things like, Every now and then, for no apparent reason, the motor would stop. Everyone would have to get out of the car, slam the doors, then get back in before it would start again. (For all you MS apologists, yes, I know the above is outdated, I know XP is wonderful, I know I'm out of touch for liking Macs, yadda yadda yadda. Please don1t bother pointing all this out again.) --Mike P.S. I have to admit that my current iMac is the worst Mac I've ever owned. It's almost as good as a PC, and I'm actually running MS software on the damned thing (IE and Word). I'm not going gently into this good night, however. The market, in its infinite wisdom, has optimized and evolved the desktop computer into a sullied morass of LCD mediocrity.
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I enjoyed reading it.. Would be 70% bigger with more features than the last camera of which 99% of those features we never used. Not only features increase but also camera will become slower!! Each camera will be released to in two versions, one Enterprise Version for PROS and Retail version for folks like me. Cameras would be manufactured identical to first prototypes with no testing or debugging so that the company could have its customers do its work for it. Occasionally bugs may creep out of the camera... Cheers Ramesh
