Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion (was To put an end ...)

2020-05-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: I only have more questions at this point. If you prefer to answer any or all of them off-List, that would be fine with me. Is it your view that "determines" is *always *a synonym for "efficiently causes"? If so, why would it entail that the universe to which any one correlate

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion

2020-05-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
John, List: I agree that it is important always to keep in mind that mathematics is preliminary to phenomenology/phaneroscopy, which in turn is preliminary to the normative sciences including logic as semeiotic. However, Peirce summarizes the relationship between logic as semeiotic and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion (was To put an end ...)

2020-05-20 Thread robert marty
Jon Alan, List To answer your questions I found it more convenient to answer in your message, you'll excuse me... I am glad to learn that I was successful in clarifying my position for you. Thanks for also spelling out yours, although I still have some theoretical comments and questions before

[PEIRCE-L] Diagrammatic reasoning (was Forgot attachment..

2020-05-20 Thread John F. Sowa
Edwina, I certainly agree: > I don't think that Peircean semiosis is just about 'interpretation' in the sense of human language or communication When I cited Peirce's _Photometric Researches_ as a good source of examples, I wanted to show how the two sources of knowledge -- pure

[PEIRCE-L] Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion

2020-05-20 Thread John F. Sowa
Robert, Your summary of the issues is very good, and I strongly agree with the need for examples. In a search for examples, I went back to _Photometric Researches_, which I believe is essential for understanding the development of Peirce's philosophy.  It's not an accident that it was

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion (was To put an end ...)

2020-05-20 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Robert, List: I am glad to learn that I was successful in clarifying my position for you. Thanks for also spelling out yours, although I still have some theoretical comments and questions before we can start trying to discuss specific examples. First, you describe the succession of the

[PEIRCE-L] Fwd: Charles S. Peirce Society Newsletter 4:1

2020-05-20 Thread Gary Richmond
FYI GR Newsletter 4:1 CSPS Newsletter 4:1 View this email in your browser [image: Header: The Charles S. Peirce Society] *The Charles S. Peirce Society Newsletter, 4:1* *May 2020* Dear Gary, During these

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion (was To put an end ...)

2020-05-20 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Robert, list Thank you so much for an absolutely perfect outline and analysis of the hexadic semiosic process. Edwina On Wed 20/05/20 10:28 AM , robert marty robert.mart...@gmail.com sent:

[PEIRCE-L] Triadic Relations

2020-05-20 Thread Jon Awbrey
Cf: Triadic Relations • Preamble At: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2020/05/20/triadic-relations-%e2%80%a2-preamble/ Of triadic Being the multitude of forms is so terrific that I have usually shrunk from the task of enumerating them; and for the present purpose such an enumeration would be

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Destinate Interpretant and Predestinate Opinion (was To put an end ...)

2020-05-20 Thread robert marty
Thank you Jon Alan, this is really helpful and I thank you very much for making this extreme clarification effort. I could have written the first two paragraphs up to the number "729" and this is already a very important achievement. I can see the disagreement. To be sure, it is worth verifying