Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT, Peirce, Wittgenstein, CLRU, Halliday, Firth

2023-04-21 Thread John F Sowa
Gary R, Dan, Helmut, I added more items to the subject line because they're relevant to the way Peirce's writings are related to the first two. Re Gary's comment about "marked": Languages have various options for using words and grammatical features. The most common or default option is

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Daniel L Everett
i have read all of shapiro’s work. my forthcoming book on peirce and the phil of linguistics goes into a lot of detail on this stuff and takes a difgerent perspective. My Princeton UP bio of peirce (2025) will go into this as well but not in quite as much detail. DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 16:34, Gary

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Gary Richmond
Dan, Helmut, List, I am not a linguist, but a friend and colleague of mine, Michael Shapiro, is. He refers to his as a "semiotic neostructuralist approach" to linguistics. Heis likely one of the very few linguists whose realism is informed by Peirce's. You might like to take a look at the

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Helmut Raulien
Dan,   ok, if Chomsky says so, he is wrong. I thought, he only means organisms, especially human children, that for them the "Poverty of Stimulus Argument (POSA)" counts: “[The] narrowly limited extent of the available data … leaves little hope that much of the structure of language can be

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Martin W. Kettelhut
Dear Jon & everyone following this string, You ask what I mean by originalism and endism in the context of practical deliberation. Quick review of where we’re at...Science is an open system, based on probabilities. And, according to Peirce, the evolving practice of science is guided by three

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Martin W. Kettelhut
Gary, and Peirce-list; To your two questions, Gary…(and keep in mind that I’m still working all of this out) 1) What does the “pulling" in a leadership relationship is the future (vs the leader or the follower) that leader and follower are committed to. They are pulled forward together by the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Daniel L Everett
Thanks Jon. The Cog Math paper looks great. (Will see if my computer will get the first link better than my iphone). DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 11:53, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:Dan, List:Sorry, the first link seems to be working fine for me, but the second one is indeed broken. Please try 

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary R., Harris, List: For the record, I deliberately chose "drawing" as the verb for my description of leading in accordance with 3ns rather than 2ns, because "pulling" strikes me as having the same efficient-causal forcefulness as "pushing." Genuine followers, whom we might call "disciples,"

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Dan, List: Sorry, the first link seems to be working fine for me, but the second one is indeed broken. Please try https://rd.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-030-44982-7_25-1 instead. Thanks, Jon On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 10:36 AM Daniel L Everett wrote: > Perhaps it is my iphone

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Daniel L Everett
Perhaps it is my iphone but I did not have any luck with those links Jon. DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 09:49, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:Martin, List:Indeed, I have argued in publications about structural engineering (https://www.structuremag.org/?p=10373) and cognitive mathematics

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A question for pragmatists

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Martin, List: Indeed, I have argued in publications about structural engineering ( https://www.structuremag.org/?p=10373) and cognitive mathematics ( https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-44982-7_25-1) that the logic of *inquiry *as explicated by Peirce can be adapted to outline the logic of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Is anyone familiar with this book by Tursman?

2023-04-21 Thread Harris Bolus
Ah, thank you, all three of you. I will continue to think about it, but Jon, that sounds pretty bad. Best, Harris Le ven. 21 avr. 2023 à 8:28 AM, Jon Alan Schmidt a écrit : > Harris, Gary R., List: > > I am also not familiar with the book myself, but I found that same brief > review by Patrick

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Is anyone familiar with this book by Tursman?

2023-04-21 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Harris, Gary R., List: I am also not familiar with the book myself, but I found that same brief review by Patrick Sullivan in *Journal of the History of Philosophy*, as well as a much longer and less favorable one by Jeremiah McCarthy in *Transactions of the Charles S. Peirce Society*

[PEIRCE-L] The schedule of talks of Logic-in-Question 10 is now available

2023-04-21 Thread jean-yves beziau
Dear Colleagues The schedule of talks of Logic-in-Question 10 is now available on the website https://sites.google.com/view/liq10 See you in Paris next week! Best Wishes Jean-Yves >--- Prof. Dr. Dr. Jean-Yves Beziau Federal University of Rio de

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Is anyone familiar with this book by Tursman?

2023-04-21 Thread robert marty
Dear colleagues interested in this issue, A dozen used copies of this book are available for about $10 on AbeBooks.com Best, Robert Marty Honorary Professor ; PhD Mathematics ; PhD Philosophy fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty *https://martyrobert.academia.edu/

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Dan Everett
Helmut, There are only two claims here, one by Chomsky and one by Peirce.Although both use the term ‘instinct’ and ‘innate,’ these mean quite different things for both of them (there is a tendency to interpret Peirce’s (Hume’s, Locke’s, etc) use of “instinct” (and many other terms)