Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Helmut Raulien
  Supplement: To speak of consciousness as self-awareness or self-consciousness too, I think, that this requires sexuality. For just having to eat there is no need for self-awareness, the organism only has to be aware of its hunger, and of potential food to fulfill this need. But if there is a

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Helmut, John, List I don’t know if there is a ‘widely accepted definition of consciousness’. I am referring to Peirce’s discussions of the term. I like his differentiation between the immediate and mediate consciousness. Notice that he refers to BOTH types as ‘consciousness’. That is, he

Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Helmut Raulien
Dear John, dear Edwina, dear all,   is there a widely accepted definition of consciousness? If you say like "Alex>  My concept of consciousness would be an awareness of part of one's thoughts and ability to reason about it", I think,  "awareness" is equally difficult to define, if not the same

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Why vagueness is important

2023-08-12 Thread Edwina Taborsky
John, List I view the two terms of awareness and consciousness as aspects of Secondness and Thirdness, where, as Peirce wrote, “two sets of objects, what we are immediately conscious of and what we are mediately conscious of” [5.395]/. Awareness would obviously function within a categorical