Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-09 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jerry R: The conversation you purpose is of little interest to me. Cheers Jerry > On Apr 8, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Jerry Rhee wrote: > > Jerry C, > > > I’d like to constrain my conversation in light of Peirce’s system of logic, > which is summarized in his formal

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-08 Thread Jerry Rhee
Jerry C, I’d like to constrain my conversation in light of Peirce’s system of logic, which is summarized in his formal expression of abduction (CP 5.189). Given: C = the surface of things, the comprehensive, the breadth of the matter (CP 4.543) A = the heart of things, the precise, the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-08 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jerry R., List: You wrote: >> Just a friendly public service announcement: >> >> >> If your interest is in genotype/phenotype mapping (i.e., relation between >> mutation and change in organism), talk of atoms, molecules and valences is >> considered bizarre. >> >> > On Apr 8, 2016, at

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-07 Thread Jerry Rhee
Hi Jerry C, I knew I shouldn’t have opened my big mouth… I don’t want to extend this conversation because as I understand the matter, the only good of comparing the structure of ammonia with triadicity is to show that it’s a bad comparison; that they are different and one should NOT compare

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-07 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
jerry: I do not understand your post. Can you clarify your meaning? Hopefully in terms of of syllogisms or propositional functions or numeric relations. Nevertheless I agree with with you our assertion that : > Even talking of mutations in individual genes and consequences on phenotype > is

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-07 Thread Jerry Rhee
Hi all, Just a friendly public service announcement: If your interest is in genotype/phenotype mapping (i.e., relation between mutation and change in organism), talk of atoms, molecules and valences is considered bizarre. I say this as a biologist and because talk of such things is

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-07 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Kirsti: > On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:15 AM, kirst...@saunalahti.fi > wrote: > > But let me first ask you some questions, to help me formulate my answer. > > 1) You concentrate on chemical symbols. - How about chemical reactions? JLRC: My interest for several

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-07 Thread kirstima
Hi Jerry, list Just a quick resoponse, for now: "Most modern logicians operate off of first order logical premise which roughly translate that logic is an algebra and algebra is a logic. Universality of meaning is, somehow or other, exchanged between algebraic symbols (signs) and logical

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-06 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Hi Kirsti, Clark: From the exchange: >> Mathematical dimensionality, in its traditional form bridges plane and >> solid geometry - 1,2,3,..,N. >> Did CSP ever use traditional mathematical dimensionality in describing >> logic? > No, CSP did not use traditional mathematical divisions into plane

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-06 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Hi Kirsti, Clark: From the exchange: >> Mathematical dimensionality, in its traditional form bridges plane and >> solid geometry - 1,2,3,..,N. >> Did CSP ever use traditional mathematical dimensionality in describing >> logic? > No, CSP did not use traditional mathematical divisions into plane

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Systems Of Interpretation - Contrasting the diagrams of ammonia and the handedness of carbon compounds.

2016-04-05 Thread Clark Goble
> On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Jerry LR Chandler > wrote: > > Approximations from both quantum theory and molecular mechanics suggest a > ‘flattened” TETRAHEDRAL structure, not a plane. In gas phase, the spectra > data suggests that NH3 molecule flips back and