RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-09 Thread gnox
CE-L@list.iupui.edu> > Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology Gary, I admit that I saw in your post an attempt to lower the role of mathematics on the path of research in Peirce's semiotics. My apology is that this has been an issue close to my heart for almost 40 years. So it

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-09 Thread robert marty
t; > > > Gary f. > > > > *From:* robert marty > *Sent:* 6-Aug-20 18:39 > *To:* Gary Fuhrman ; Peirce-L > > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology > > > > Gary, I admit that I saw in your post an attempt to lower the role of > mathematics on

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-07 Thread John F. Sowa
Robert M, Gary F, List, Before saying anything else, I'll remind everybody of two points:  (1) theorematic reasoning is a special case of diagrammatic reasoning. (2) In Peirce's classification of the sciences, there is a two-way flow of information: every science (including every branch of

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-07 Thread gnox
you posted of your lattice diagram makes good sense to me. I hope I wasn’t too hard on you in that last post of mine. Maybe I’m getting a bit cranky in my old age. Gary f. From: robert marty Sent: 6-Aug-20 18:39 To: Gary Fuhrman ; Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-06 Thread robert marty
ith his ethics of > terminology). But if you prefer to carry on with your “blood sport,” count > me out. > > > > Gary f. > > > > *From:* robert marty > *Sent:* 6-Aug-20 05:29 > *To:* Gary Fuhrman ; Peirce-L > > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodo

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-06 Thread gnox
on with your “blood sport,” count me out. Gary f. From: robert marty Sent: 6-Aug-20 05:29 To: Gary Fuhrman ; Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology Gary F., List It's not a response and my post was not an attack but a counterattack to your exploitation of the quote from

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-06 Thread robert marty
Gary F., List It's not a response and my post was not an attack but a counterattack to your exploitation of the quote from John's post, in conjunction with your insistence on the term "imaginary" :* "The relevance to John's original post, as i see it, is this: if theorematic reasoning is only a

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-05 Thread gnox
Robert, answering your attack on a straw man would hardly be worthwhile, as it is apparently based on a misquotation of my post and your own hostile reaction to the word “imaginary.” Rather than unleash a barrage of quotes, i will just give one example where Peirce uses that word as i did in my

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-05 Thread robert marty
Gary F., Edwina, John, Auke, List So you're sending mathematics back into the field of the imaginary. Peirce isn't as radical as you. He begins a simple and clear classification of science with: - *the mathematical sciences*: "the study of ideal constructions without reference to their real

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Peirce's methodology

2020-08-03 Thread gnox
Jon et al., The basic point of my post was that the interpreter of a sign can keep its dynamic object “in view” only by means of the indexical function of the sign, which connects it to actual experience. Diagrammatic signs are not so good at that. The relevance to John's original post, as i

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [Peirce's methodology

2020-08-03 Thread gnox
Jon, list, “The object in view”? Which object is that? A turn back to basics: Semiosis is a kind of triadic action. Peirce (CP 5.472-3, c. 1906) explains that the difference between ‘dynamical, or dyadic, action’ and ‘intelligent, or triadic action’ is that the latter involves the use of