Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-20 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List: Just a brief comment on Professor Everett wide-reaching scientific assertion that appears to me to subscribe too and pontificate about CSP writings with respect to realism of scientific phenomenology. > On Jul 18, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Thomas903 wrote: > > Dan, > > I wanted to comment

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-20 Thread John F Sowa
Tom, Dan, and Helmut, We must distinguish three different systems: (1) the Large Language Modlels (LLMs) which are derived from large volumes of texts, (2) ChatGPT and other systems that use the LLMs for various purposes, and (3) the human brain + body + all the human experience of interacting

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-18 Thread John F Sowa
Dan and Tom, That article by Steven Piantadosi, which is dated Marh 2023, is obsolete. The author used a version of OpenAI, which was supposed to be based on GPT-4, but was actually based on features that were added to 8 copies of GPT 3.5, Each copy used the older version of GPT (LLMs by

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-18 Thread Thomas903
Sorry - that doesn't do it for me. ChatGPT's success depends upon a priori information & structures provided to it by humans. As I said before, this is the equivalent of the "innate learning module" which you say is not needed for learning language. Since you were able to respond to my comment

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-07-18 Thread Thomas903
Dan, I wanted to comment briefly on a sentence from your earlier posting: "ChatGPT simply and conclusively shows that there is no need for any innate learning module in the brain to learn language." 1- ChatGPT did not evolve naturally, but was developed by humans who certainly do understand how

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-06-15 Thread Robert Junqueira
y is too weak (it >>> cannot extend beyond the sentence/proposition) and too strong (it creates >>> faux problems such as the veritable core of most formal linguistics, >>> “gap-filler” analyses, e.g. movement rules) whereas inferentialism provides >>> the best cove

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-06-15 Thread Robert Junqueira
e this point based on much more >> archaeological evidence from Homo erectus sites: >> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10816-020-09480-9 >> >> All best, >> >> Dan >> >> On Apr 20, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Helmut Raulien wrote: >> >> Dan

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Daniel L Everett
pril 2023 um 20:28 Uhr Von: "Dan Everett" <danleveret...@gmail.com> An: "Helmut Raulien" <h.raul...@gmx.de> Cc: g...@gnusystems.ca, "Peirce-L" <PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu> Betreff: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce You’ll have to read your way through the l

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Gary Richmond
t his genetic grammar-module is not based on logic, then I would have to > quote all he ever has written. The other way round would be easier. And: > Refutation is a strong accusation, and I think the prosecutor has the > burden of proof. > Best, Helmut > > > *Gesendet:*

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-21 Thread Dan Everett
h, 19. April 2023 um 20:28 Uhr > Von: "Dan Everett" > An: "Helmut Raulien" > Cc: g...@gnusystems.ca, "Peirce-L" > Betreff: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce > You’ll have to read your way through the literature. > > D > > On Apr 19

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Chat GPT and Peirce

2023-04-19 Thread Dan Everett
You’ll have to read your way through the literature. D > On Apr 19, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Helmut Raulien wrote: > > > Dan, List, > > First i apologize for posting unrelated in the main thread. > > I appreciate your argument and find it a great insight. Now, is this a > refutation of