Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-31 Thread kirstima
Jeffrey, list, A beutiful example of ethics of interpretation you offered, Jeffrey. Thanks. With quotes from Collected Papers my sincere wish is that the year of writing is mentioned, whenever possible. Those are to be found in the small footnotes. Peirce was not just a corpuscular

Aw: Re: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-23 Thread Helmut Raulien
Gary, I am feeling quite dull at the moment about all this, I have lost tracks, what remains is the idea, that the meaning of the term "is" might be something that can be symbolized with EGs, though by negations only, but why not, and that EGs (or at least their non-textual symbols like cuts and

Re: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-23 Thread Gary Richmond
Helmut, Gary f. Jeff, list, I have found at least some of the parts/whole, classification/composition discussion not quite to the point of Peirce'comments in this section of Lowell 3. Gary f's formulation today was, however, helpful for me in sorting at least some of this out. Gf: I don’t see a

Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-23 Thread Helmut Raulien
    Supplement: Kirsti, All, to be frank, I think I have lost the overview about this whole topic a bit. I was thinking, that classification "is a kind of" and composition "is a part of" were two completely different affairs. But on the other hand one can say instead of "is a kind of": "is a

RE: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-22 Thread gnox
c-17 13:33 To: jerry_lr_chand...@icloud.com; Helmut Raulien <h.raul...@gmx.de> Cc: Peirce List <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>; John F Sowa <s...@bestweb.net> Subject: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6 Hello Gary F, John S, Helmut, Kirsti, List, I take John to be asking a good q

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-22 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hello Gary F, John S, Helmut, Kirsti, List, I take John to be asking a good question about whether or how the part/whole distinction might or might not apply to the account of relations and relationships as it is applied in the normative science of semiotics. Given the context of our

Aw: Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.6

2017-12-22 Thread Helmut Raulien
Kirsti, is the term "part" already defined? I think, if it is defined geometrically, then a sign does not have parts. If a sign is a function that depends on subfunctions, which may be seen as parts, then I think it has the parts sign itself, object, interpretant. But, because you cannot take a