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Edwina, List It is very clear ... for Gary F., tribalism is the others! R M Honorary Professor ; PhD Mathematics ; PhD Philosophy fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Marty *https://martyrobert.academia.edu/ * Le jeu. 19 août 2021 à 16:06, Edwina Taborsky a écrit :

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In this case, however, there is an exit … http://inquiryintoinquiry.com > On Aug 20, 2021, at 2:56 AM, robert marty wrote: > > Edwina, List > It is very clear ... for Gary F., tribalism is the others! > R M > Honorary Professor ; PhD Mathematics ; PhD Philosophy >

RE: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 27

Gary F, List, GF:  In this context, Peirce acknowledges that in ordinary English usage, “possibility implies a relation to what exists.” Since existence involves Secondness, that renders the word “possibility” unfit for rendering the concept named “Firstness.” In order to consistently use

RE: [PEIRCE-L] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 27

Getting back to the substantive issue raised in my previous post … In his third Lowell Lecture (1903), Peirce says that the Firstness of Firstness can be called “qualitative possibility.” But earlier in the same lecture, he says this: CSP: That wherein all such qualities agree is

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      Supplement: I have lost who is right or wrong, including Peirce. What I wanted to say, was: In mathematical language, the sentence "possibility implies a relation to what exists" is false. Maybe in ordinary English usage it is true, I dont know. But if we use the term "relation", we should

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John, List   One might answer, that "relation" in this case is not involvement, but a "might-be"-affair. With this argument, "possibility implies a relation to what exists", translated, would be: "Possibility implies that it might be something what exists". But: This is not conform with the

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Thanks Jon, this does clarify the matter, especially the definitions of Firstness where Peirce uses phrases such as “positive suchness” and “positive possibility.” It’s yet another reminder of the importance of context in determining the meaning of a word. I think it was Comte who first used

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Gary F, Helmut, List, I agree with Gary that "there are no perfect choices when it comes to naming such things" and we should "weed out the choices most likely to cause confusion." HR:  In mathematical language, the sentence "possibility implies a relation to what exists" is false.  Maybe in