Aw: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-09 Thread Helmut Raulien
  Supplement: All in all, I have the feeling, that by trying to distinguish the representamen from the object, and the immediate from the dynamical object, and including memory, then you look at more and more subsigns, the closer you try to analyse. But maybe that doesn´t matter, because with

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce

2024-01-09 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Helmut - I think you have a lot of misunderstandings of Peirce - and can only suggest: Read Peirce. And think: How can an entity organized within Firstness [ pure vague feeling] produce an entity organized within the much more restrictive mode of Secondness [an actual single form]? Think of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categorizations of triadic Relationships (Was Re: Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce)

2024-01-09 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jerry, List: I am honestly not sure exactly what all you are asking me to address here and how my engineering background is relevant. What do you mean by "the origins of the 'triadic relations'"? From what are we seeking to distinguish Peirce's semeiotic? What do you have in mind as *semantic*

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Categorizations of triadic Relationships (Was Re: Graphical Representations of the Sign by Peirce)

2024-01-09 Thread Edwina Taborsky
List With regard to the use of the terms of ‘genuine, degenerate and doubly degenerate’ - my understanding of these terms is that they refer only to the categories. Not to the ’nodes’ and relations, ie, not to the two Objects or the three Interpretants. . For example, Peirce writes: “The Sign