Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Cécile, List: As Peirce states in the accompanying text, the triangular diagram in CP 8.376 (also EP 2:491) indicates ten sign classes that can be obtained from three trichotomies--one for the object, one for the interpretant, and one for the sign itself. It is very important to recognize two fact

Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Cécile, List: I should add that the three-digit sign class identifiers in manuscript R 799 (undated by Robin) are for the 1903 taxonomy as indicated by the accompanying text, not the (abbreviated) 1908 taxonomy as shown in the triangular diagram. Again, in R 799, the first number is for the sign i

Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Cécile, List: 321 in the 1903 taxonomy (R 799) is a rhematic indexical legisign. The sign itself is a general law (3 for legisign), its dyadic *relation *to its object is existential (2 for indexical), and its dyadic *relation *to its interpretant is a qualitative possibility (1 for rhematic). 32

Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread Cécile Cosculluela
Jon, List, Would it be too much of a stretch, in the interest of clarity (while still respecting the essential nature of Peirce's work), to consider the following equivalences as relatively acceptable? 1) Regarding the sign (or representamen) itself: qualisign / sinsign / legisign are essent

Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Cécile, List: On the contrary ... - The 1st trichotomy in 1903 (sign itself) is also the 1st trichotomy in 1908 (sign itself). - The 2nd trichotomy in 1903 (sign's *relation *to its object) is the 4th trichotomy in 1908 (sign's relation to its *dynamical *object). - The 3rd trichot

Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Cécile, List: CC: Would it be too much of a stretch, in the interest of clarity (while still respecting the essential nature of Peirce's work), to consider the following equivalences as relatively acceptable? This is precisely the mistake that I have been trying to help you avoid. (1) below is t

Re: [PEIRCE-L] 10 Classes of Signs (Question on CP 8.376, 1908)

2024-01-22 Thread John F Sowa
Cécile, Edwina, Jon, List, James Liszka made an important observation about Peirce's classification of signs: “the theory is more complex than the phenomenon it hopes to explain." Since Peirce himself was constantly rewriting and revising the details, we can't be sure what he would have wri