RE: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread kirstima
Stephen, I don't think adding "unity" helps. Unity is already implied in the form of the 'mind-body'. - The problem lies deeper than in wordings. The mind-body problem needs to be solved. Which is not easy. Right now I'm quite busy writing down the solution I have arrived at, using both

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread kirstima
I find Helmut's comments to the point. In terms of CSP's categories, "instincts" do not, as such have a place. - Well, a kind of firstnesslike, but that is it. Nowdays, the quite common understanding of "instict" is different than in CSP's times. Not to forget that HIS understanding differed

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Edwina Taborsky
I'd disagree with Kirsti's view that instincts are unrelated to the Peircean categories. I'd say that instinct in itself is in a form of Thirdness, in that it is a genetically based knowledge. As to how it is activated and accessed - that can be via both Firstness and Secondness. As for 'the

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Ad feminem. I used to moderate a forum that went on for a good while in the 90s. All forums suffer the slings and arrows of various dynamics. But this is a case of renegade moderation and I am tired of it. I think Peirce would be too. Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU Art: http://buff.ly/1wXAxbl

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread johnphilipda...@hotmail.com
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Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Kirsti- that's not a logical response. If you wish to keep your short assertions without explanation and refuse to either explain or discuss them, then, don't post them on to a discussion site! Also, if you can't accept disagreement - again, don't post your opinions to a discussion site! The

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread kirstima
Edwina, You have no right to deny me my short comments. Only the list-minders have the right to do so. Your tone I find angry, aggressive & not agreeable. Now, once and for all, this is the end of my discussions with you. - You may write whatever you wish to the list. But do not ever expect

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Stephen - what the heck does 'ad feminem' mean? Surely you aren't 'feminizing' the fallacy of 'ad hominem' ? [ I'm opposed to political correctness]. My comment to Kirsti had nothing to do with her personally (which is what ad hominem is all about) but about her posting a comment and then,

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Of course I am privy to Peirce's thought and so are you and anyone else. You are privy to mine and vica versa. I found your post to K to be an attack. I have found you to be functioning as a moderator-sort. I think I am on the cutting edge of things, but this Forum is not interested in Triadic

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Ozzie
Edwina, Stephen, Kristi, List - "Such an approach denies the nature of a discussion site - if you post something and then, refuse to explain or discuss what you posted." Here's how I look at it: After her earlier post, Kristi was queried. She then had three options: 1-Not respond, 2-respond

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Kirsti- Heh - I am not denying you your short comments. I am asking you why you post them if you refuse to discuss them and their content!! What's the point of posting them?? Heh - I could say the same about you: I find "your tone angry, aggressive and not agreeable' - but I'm not interested

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Stephen - please don't change the issue. When you write something like: "But this is a case of renegade moderation and I am tired of it. I think Peirce would be too." Then I have every right to ask you if you are 'privy to Peirce's thought such that you can assert that he too would consider my

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Gary Richmond
Tom, Edwina, Stephen, Kirsti, List, Tom wrote: So measures of patience, forthrightness and follow-thru all promote a successful forum. I assume AND HAVE OBSERVED the existence of these, to tolerable degrees, or I would not be here. Yes. However, we'd like to remind list members of a principle

Re: [peirce-l] [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:8863] The problem with instinct - it's a category

2015-09-17 Thread Sungchul Ji
Kristina, Stephen, Helmut, Edwina, list members, The heated debate between Edwina and Kristina reminds me of the Republican debate we saw on TV last night. Let us not fight against each other but focus on defeating the Democrats of the challenging problems in contemporary science and