Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-09 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
den 4. maj 2015 18.45 Til: Peirce-L 1 PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edumailto:PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu Cc: Frederik Stjernfelt stj...@hum.ku.dkmailto:stj...@hum.ku.dk Emne: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural List, Frederik: On May 4, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Howard Pattee wrote: How do

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-05 Thread Gary Fuhrman
' Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural At 09:49 AM 5/2/2015, Gary Fuhrman wrote: Frederik, you wrote, [So here I agree with Howard (and I guess P would do so as well) that the right direction is to generalize the observer-phenomenon distinction so as to cover all

RE: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-05 Thread Howard Pattee
1' Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural At 09:49 AM 5/2/2015, Gary Fuhrman wrote: Frederik, you wrote, [So here I agree with Howard (and I guess P would do so as well) that the right direction is to generalize the observer-phenomenon distinction so as to cover all

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-04 Thread Howard Pattee
At 09:49 AM 5/2/2015, Gary Fuhrman wrote: Frederik, you wrote, [So here I agree with Howard (and I guess P would do so as well) that the right direction is to generalize the observer-phenomenon distinction so as to cover all biological organisms.] GF: I agree about the right direction, but I

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Frederik: On May 4, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Howard Pattee wrote: How do the Peircean signs and triads avoid facing the subject-object relation (which Peirce himself called obscure and mysterious)? Howard has posed an excellent and incisive question with far-ranging implications! Thanks.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-04 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Seems to me that in a triad you are acknowledging that it is a unity and that everything in it is subsumed to the point that such things as subject and object are if there at all blurred. The object of a triad might be seen as an expression, an action or both, following the Pragmatic Maxim -- the

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8567] Re: Natural

2015-05-02 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Frederik, you wrote, [So here I agree with Howard (and I guess P would do so as well) that the right direction is to generalize the observer-phenomenon distinction so as to cover all biological organisms.] I agree about the right direction, but I don’t see that Howard does, because he