Seems to me that in a triad you are acknowledging that it is a unity and
that everything in it is subsumed to the point that such things as subject
and object are if there at all blurred. The object of a triad might be seen
as an expression, an action  or both, following the Pragmatic Maxim -- the
entire consideration. So you might have a sign which is sort of a subject
and an index which is sort of a colander through which to strain your
thoughts and when they reach the symbol stage they have morphed into the
object which was not there until now as it were. I am not sure grammatical
acuity is possible in this context. But then again what do I know.

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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Jerry LR Chandler <jerry_lr_chand...@me.com
> wrote:

> List, Frederik:
>
> On May 4, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Howard Pattee wrote:
>
> How do the Peircean signs and triads avoid facing the subject-object
> relation (which Peirce himself called "obscure and mysterious")?
>
>
> Howard has posed an excellent and incisive question with far-ranging
> implications!  Thanks.
>
> It seems to me that CSP uses several strategies to avoid the grammatical
> "conundrum" that is counter intuitive to his world view.  The
> "subject-object" argument is hardly more than a grammatical "red herring"
> anyway.  The semantics of "subject-objects" reduces the verb to a secondary
> role in logic. CSP's logic focuses primarily on the meaning of verbs in
> associating logical terms, such as his diagram of "lover-benefactor"
> relations where both terms are derived from verbs.
>
> CSP logical tactics appear to include:
>
> 1. presume that all logical terms are copula (in the sense of his "medads"
> role in sentences).  This grammatical construct of logical relations is
> intrinsic to the grammatical form of antecedent-consequent propositions of
> the Stoics.
>
> 2. presume that an "icon" represents the relations within a discourse.
>
> 3. uses the term "index" in a vague manner, extremely vaguely, but
> consistent with its semantic roots.
>
> 4. creating the term "rhema" to construct relations among parts of the
> whole sentence, medads, complete terms in an argument or subsets of the
> argument.
>
> 5. creating the term "dicisign" to construct indexical relations among
> icons represented in the rhema.
>
> Tactics one and two are *entailed* by his existential interpretation of
> matter as relatives.
>
> Tactic three allows logical terms to be players *in the theatre of the
> mind*, they set the stage for the genesis of relations, more
> specifically, *electrical* relations in the sense of Porphyry's per
> accidens.
>
> Tactics four and five are modal terms essential to entailments of symbols
> and legisigns to generate a sinsign.
> (See my earlier posts for an interpretation of the trichotomy as an
> associative graph.)
>
> If one constrains one's concept of logic to grammatical "subject-object"
> terminology, one excludes many (if not most) of the constructive arguments
> used in CSP writings.
>
> CSP's innovative tactics "Led the charge" in the decimation of this
> traditional grammatical terminology as a critical component of his logic of
> relatives.
>
> This interpretation is a further example of the chemo-centric basis of
> CSP's existential logic which persists in his existential graphs and other
> assertions defining his concept of relatives.
>
> Had I had had these five tactics as actors on stage in the theatre of my
> mind when I wrote the ratiocinations  for the perplex number system, the
> play would have unfolded differently.
>
> BTW, I am fully aware that this synthesis of CSP's tactics is very remote
> from Frederik's views in "Natural Propositions".
> Yet it coheres with many of Frederik's precepts in his analysis of meaning
> of Diagrams.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
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