Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Stephen C. Rose
I thought I raised a valid point but I think it turned out to be a red flag. Sorry. Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU Art: http://buff.ly/1wXAxbl Gifts: http://buff.ly/1wXADj3 On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Benjamin Udell wrote: > Stephen, please don't join in the insultingly trivializing games t

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Benjamin Udell
Stephen, please don't join in the insultingly trivializing games that others have played with the meaning of "Peirce-related", and please don't convert it to a question of what is Peirce is relevant or related to. PEIRCE-L has the audience that it has because of the promise of Peirce-related di

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Stephen C. Rose
Peirce is relevant to the issues we are discussing, particularly to the relationship between semiosis then and now, to the growing iteration and acceptance of triadic rather than binary thinking, and to the huge sea change which Helmut just noted. There is a text probably prominent on Arisbe that l

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Benjamin Udell
Folks, I'm not the moderator (that's Gary Richmond), just the co-manager, but it seems like this thread has gotten away from explicitly Peirce-related matters. Is it possible to bring it back to Peirce matters? Best, Ben On 7/12/2015 6:24 PM, Thomas wrote: Helmet ~ Local "culture" is like a

Re: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Thomas
Helmet ~ Local "culture" is like a species or a language or a market area: largely defined by limits on transportation. Since culture travels on the internet (literature, movies, news, fashion, music) much faster than people can travel/migrate/mix by conventional means, certain shared values a

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Helmut Raulien
ob, i.e., a band of thugs'. Democracy is not, in itself, a barrier against barbarism. As Tolstoy said, 'Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority shares in it'.  Democracy, to be just, requires a constitution and the rule of law, set up as created by men, and capable of ch

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-12 Thread Helmut Raulien
n it'.  Democracy, to be just, requires a constitution and the rule of law, set up as created by men, and capable of change by men, but applicable to all. Edwina - Original Message - From: Helmut Raulien To: Ozzie Cc: Edwina Taborsky ; ; Peirce List Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:51 P

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-11 Thread Helmut Raulien
x27;.  Democracy, to be just, requires a constitution and the rule of law, set up as created by men, and capable of change by men, but applicable to all. Edwina - Original Message - From: Helmut Raulien To: Ozzie Cc: Edwina Taborsky ; ; Peirce List Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:51 PM Subje

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-10 Thread Helmut Raulien
ascism or Hitler's political tactics.   Edwina - Original Message - From: Helmut Raulien To: stever...@gmail.com Cc: Edwina Taborsky ; Peirce List Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 12:50 PM Subject: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic   Now I am wonderin

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-10 Thread Helmut Raulien
Now I am wondering, which of the four methods of fixating belief did Hitler use? According to Ben Novak it is like this, I think: He was tenacious, but that is not the main point. He used authority, but that is not the main point either. Also he took advantage of apriorian ituition and instincts,

Aw: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-09 Thread Helmut Raulien
      Read Ben Novaks dissertation first, Id say: It is really suspensefully written, like a detective story, and very enlighting. Todays parallels to Hitlers success by creating abductive myths surely is not feminism, but conspiracy theories (chemtrails, astronauts were not on the moon, 9/11

Aw: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-09 Thread Helmut Raulien
Read Ben Novaks dissertation first, Id say: It is really suspensefully written, like a detective story, and very enlighting. Todays parallels to Hitlers success by creating abductive myths surely is not feminism, but conspiracy theories (chemtrails, astronauts were not on the moon, 9/11 was an ins

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-08 Thread Helmut Raulien
    Gesendet: Dienstag, 07. Juli 2015 um 23:05 Uhr Von: "Helmut Raulien" An: stever...@gmail.com Cc: "Edwina Taborsky" , "Peirce List" Betreff: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic   I think, abduction in itself is not a bad thin

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Recently published: Hitler and Abductive Logic

2015-07-07 Thread Helmut Raulien
  I think, abduction in itself is not a bad thing: It is the "brainstorm" that shows several possibilities of further inquiry (or possibilities of shaping a political opinion). Critical, I think, is, what follows after the abduction: Is it induction and deduction/scientific method, with a democrat