[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-20 Thread Irving Anellis
Jim Platt wrote (in part): > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Piat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" > Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real > Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:02:23 -0500 > > > > >> > D

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-19 Thread Irving Anellis
For anyone who may have missed it, I'm forwarding Alan Ryan's obituary of P. F. Strawson, as posted on Russell-l. Irving Anellis: Message: 4 From: "Kenneth Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Obit. of Strawson To: "Russell Studies Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-19 Thread Jim Piat
Irving Anellis wrote (in part): To be able to formulate the judgment that 'The present King of France is bald' meant for Meinong that the present King of France must have being at some ontological level or another (i.e have some sort of ontological status, even if he does not exist) in order t

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-18 Thread Irving Anellis
tological riff: If Ockham's razor won't kill the bachelor's wife, and Russell's denoting won't describe her to end her life, Try Quine's tomahawk and scalping knife. Irving Anellis > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Piat" <[EMAIL PROTE

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-18 Thread Jim Piat
Dea Folks, I'm thinking it might be helpful to try to distinguish between the notions of real and true. One can contrast real with imaginary and true with false. Some further preliminary thoughts below. As in maybe--- Peirce proposes that being comes in three modes -- the potential, the ac

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-17 Thread gnusystems
Thomas, [[ perhaps I have here something more that might be of interest for you: ]] Yes, those citations are interesting, and new to me because i don't have access to the Eisele volumes. Thank you! I can't say that they throw much light (for me) on Peirce's usage of "subject" and of "real", th

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-16 Thread Thomas Riese
Gary, perhaps I have here something more that might be of interest for you: Logic requires us, with reference to each question we have in hand, to hope some definite answer to it may be true. That *hope* with reference to *each case* as it comes up is, by a *saltus*, stated by logicians as

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-16 Thread gnusystems
What struck me immediately about Thomas's quote from CP 4.546 was its distinction between logical subjects and meta-physical Subjects, or "substances". Just this morning i've been perusing the Century Dictionary on "subject", "subjective" and "subjectivity", all of which are on the UQAM word li

[peirce-l] Re: Existent vs Real

2006-02-16 Thread Joseph Ransdell
I have no problem with this, Thomas, as showing the need for the distinction of the existent vs. the real, but then I wasn't really putting the need for it in question but only intending to indicate that I don't always understand how to apply it effectively. Joe Ransdell - Original Message