[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Janet Singer
Title: [peirce-l] Re: Entelechy Gary -- I see now that Merrell is mentioned in the Life of Meaning resources on your site. Nice collection! I am surprised, however, to see the entrants under Models and simulations of mind. Aren't the views of Hofstadter, Dennet and Minsky generally at odds

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread gnusystems
Vinicius, [[ I think the best definition of Entelechy given by Peirce, done in terms of Semeiosis, can be found in his definition of Perfect Sign (EP2: 545, n.25). ]] I see what you mean -- although Peirce doesn't mention the word entelechy there, perfect sign seems synonymous with it.

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Eugene Halton
Kirsti M: “…The entelechy or perfection of being Peirce here refers to is something never attained to full, but strived at, again and again. Just as with science and scientific knowledge. It's about striving to approach, better and better, The Truth. If there ever would be an end, the absolute

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Gary Richmond
Gary, Your concluding comment: We are worlds in conversation, turning still. Sometimes we spin in synchrony and sometimes we don't. When we do, we have structural coupling, as Maturana and Varela called it. And when we don't, we may have a chance to learn something new. for some reason

[peirce-l] Re: NEW ELEMENTS: So what is it all about?

2006-05-09 Thread gnusystems
Ben, [[ I haven't read Eco or Quillian, and what little I've been able to garner today from the 'Net about Model Q is vague to me. I think I'm going to get the Eco novel which makes use of it. It sounds like a heck of a good novel. ]] I guess you mean Baudolino -- thanks for mentioning the

[peirce-l] Porphyry's Trees

2006-05-09 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jim: On May 9, 2006, at 1:06 AM, Peirce Discussion Forum digest wrote: Still this account leaves untouched the matter of symbols standing for = the meaning of objects. The indexical and iconic functions of symbols = tell us what meaning is being refered to but they do not shed any light

[peirce-l] Re: NEW ELEMENTS: So what is it all about?

2006-05-09 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Ben: Your questions are directly on target. It is such questions that I seek to explicate. I agree when you say: The striking thing to a gawker like me who knows very little about = chemistry is those symbols, and it's encouraging to one's intuition to = be reassured that chemists

[peirce-l] Thanks for the welcome

2006-05-09 Thread Janet Singer
A few words of introduction: My original academic efforts were in the liberal arts, primarily Religious Studies. I later went back to school and completed degrees in mathematics, but my interests were in taking on the (ambitious and thankless, as you all know) task of developing an integrated

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Jeffrey
Gene, I wonder if you can comment a bit more on the end of your note--how exactly does it make sense from a Peircean point of view to claim that poems are arguments? More specifically, if poems qua aesthetic objects partake most of firstness, how can they also be arguments? Jeff