Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8672] Re: self-R

2015-05-25 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jeff D., Helmut, lists, I agree, I found myself using, or at any rate thinking of, the word 'self' ambiguously, so I turned around and de-emphasized it. 'Self' goes back to pretty basic ideas, as in 'self and other', 'same and other', 'one and another', 'oneself', 'selfsame', etc. Through the

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8672] Re: self-R

2015-05-21 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Helmut, Ben, Lists, I agree with what you say here, Helmut: Pitifully, this sort of distinction is not a scientific one. What I mean in saying this is that I don't believe that the distinctions you are making are problematic for the practice of doing science. That is, scientists don't start

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8672] Re: self-R

2015-05-21 Thread Sungchul Ji
Jeff wrote: It isn't clear how this logical conception of the self is related to the chemical or biological conception of a system that is auto (or self) organizing. One concrete example of self is what Stan recently described so clearly -- as the activities of the neural networks of our brain,