At 07:40 AM 6/5/97 -0700, you wrote:
Michael,
I remember the first Mitterand/Socialist victory and the cheering in the
streets. We all know now what followed!
I think your point is a very valuable everywhere, including in the United
States when people think voting Democratic is progressive.
a sinha wrote:
Another example from Australia: Now it has become
almost impossible for a migrant worker to bring his or her family. Even
Australian citizens marrying foreigners are simply unable to be united with
their families
this is not true. there are around 60,000 new entrants coming
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
A lot of this describes the state of already-existing "progressive"
politics in the U.S. - hundreds, thousands of little local organizations
organized around neighborhood, ethnicity, or issue, but who rarely talk
with each other (and who are often
Shawgi Tell asked,
Tom what do you think is needed to move society forward? I posed
this question to Michael yesterday. Hope to hear from the both of you and
others.
I will begin with a brief citation, which not only sums up my own position
but states the practical program drafted by Karl
Walter Daum wrote:
Even more consistent with Marx's method, I think, would be to
read the Thesis as saying that one has to be changing the world
*in order to* analyze it.
... *and* in order to change the world, one must analyze it.
Of course, one *can* change the world without analyzing it
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Michael Perelman wrote:
The French elections were a tragedy. From what I understand, the left
comes in without a program. Please correct me if I am wrong. They will
offer a kindler, gentler neo-liberalism, something like Giscard. The
people will become disgusted,
Colin Danby:
2. In what filters through our inadequate newspapers, the impression
is that current opposition to monetary union is entirely nationalist.
Has there been an effort to articulate a broader opposition and even
an alternative? This would seem to be a good moment, no?
The
Paris Liberation in French, 28 May 97 pp 20, 21
[Report by Nathalie Bensahel, Agnes Laurent, and Edourad
Launet]
The Left wins. Suddenly, for several tens of thousands of
workers, "Change your future" is no longer just an election
campaign slogan but a short-term program--whether for the
best
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On Sat, 24 May 1997, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
b) When might
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, William S. Lear wrote:
Anyway, we have RI - DUI - DA (Radical Intellectuals produce
Democratically Useful Information, which will/can lead to Democratic
Action). But my little model misses something, RI - DTM - DUI -
DA, where DTM is the Democratic Transmission
Max Sawicky wrote,
Tavis has ferreted out my secret ambition -- to rule France -- so I
may as well reveal what I would do . . .
Now we know why Max struts around with his palm primly inserted under his
jacket lapel!
Max also wrote,
Tom groups me with
Shawgi and Mike, but he forgets my
(Louis P: This is excerpted from a long document by Allen Woods, an Enlish
Trotskyist, at
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~socappeal/socialisteurope.html). I mercifully
don't include the standard ultimatistic boilerplate--"the workers must...,
etc.--that adorns much of the original. Woods knows his
(ahem)
Since I have been appointed by the assembled pen-l masses as the new
Premier of France, it is more than appropriate that I put forth my
three-point Progressive Program for France, which unifies the three pillars
of Socialism: 1) domestic prosperity; 2) international solidarity; and 3)
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Of course, Doug Henwood and Bill Lear are correct. My fondest hope for
pen-l would be that we could break out of our closed circle and somehow do
something to develop something programatic.
From time to time, people who are involved in the grass roots come to us
to ask for specific information.
I've been off line, but if nobody mentioned Norma Rae starring Sally
Fields, I liked that as a labor film especially as it portrays the
character of a union organizer and a local activist (Sally Fields)
very well. Surprisingly, I think it was more of a Hollywood film than
others such as Matewan.
Max: "As I've said before, the EU is a GOVERNMENT of Europe.
(NAFTA was a mere regional trade agreement between governments.) It
starts with certain features and biases, but its potential, for good or for ill, is
vast. Politics on the ground informs the development of this potential. The
Shawgi Tell wrote,
From now on, the battle cry of the working class will be Stop Paying the
Rich - Increase Funding for Social Programs
Or -- based on some rough calculations using Shawgi's figures -- the
CPC-(ML) soared from a mere 1/20 of one percent of the vote to a resounding
1/10 of one
Tavis has ferreted out my secret ambition -- to rule France . . .
Now we know why Max struts around with his palm primly inserted under his
jacket lapel!
As I was telling Josephine, you should be grateful my
army is rolling east rather than north.
If reforms which take place within the
In a message dated 97-06-05 16:20:59 EDT, you write:
"To reinvigorate the grass roots requires explaining to people the world as
it is and as it might be. That's what radical intellectuals are supposed to
do, but we're not doing much of it."
Doug,
Haven't Americans become so
Louis Max and Jim,
Perhaps you'll ought to join us on at summer conference in Cuba - plane
leaves tommorow!
My impression is that Louis is correct on this one though I'm going to
try to find out for my self.
Best!
Ron
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On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, William S. Lear wrote:
On Wed, June 4, 1997 at 22:10:29 (-0700) Tavis Barr writes:
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Michael Perelman wrote:
The answer is that I would not even think of coming up with such a
program. I would devote my energies to reinvigorating the grass roots.
William S. Lear wrote:
Anyway, we have RI - DUI - DA (Radical Intellectuals produce
Democratically Useful Information, which will/can lead to Democratic
Action). But my little model misses something, RI - DTM - DUI -
DA, where DTM is the Democratic Transmission Mechanism. I'm curious,
D Shniad wrote:
This is true, ironically (perhaps especially true) of
many Marxist intellectuals, despite Marx's famous thesis on Feuerbach
about the need to stop analyzing and start changing the world.
The much-quoted XI "Theses on Fuerbach" ["The philosophers have only
*interpreted* the
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Louis Max and Jim,
Perhaps you'll ought to join us on at summer conference in Cuba - plane
leaves tommorow!
My impression is that Louis is correct on this one though I'm going to
try to find out for my
You're absolutely correct in your interpretation, Jerry.
Cheers,
Sid
PS -- what are you doing to change the world?
D Shniad wrote:
This is true, ironically (perhaps especially true) of
many Marxist intellectuals, despite Marx's famous thesis on Feuerbach
about the need to stop
The Vancouver Sun December 3, 1996
FRENCH MINISTER ON TOUR TO SELL EU IDEAL
The campaign is up against growing public opinion
that sees integration as unbridled capitalism.
By Nick Spicer, Southam Newspapers
PARIS -- It looks like
Gerald Levy wrote:
Perhaps it would be better to humbly join *their* progressive projects
rather than to "recruit" them to your projects.
Which projects are those?
Doug
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On Thu, June 5, 1997 at 11:31:27 (-0700) Gerald Levy writes:
William S. Lear wrote:
Anyway, we have RI - DUI - DA (Radical Intellectuals produce
Democratically Useful Information, which will/can lead to Democratic
Action). But my little model misses something, RI - DTM - DUI -
DA, where DTM
Max Sawicky wrote,
As I was telling Josephine, you should be grateful my
army is rolling east rather than north.
Max, if you're looking for Sid in Saskatchewan, we've got nothing to worry
about when you roll north.
Regarding the 18th century enlightment, Max commented,
We would say you have
On Wed, June 4, 1997 at 22:10:29 (-0700) Tavis Barr writes:
On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Michael Perelman wrote:
The answer is that I would not even think of coming up with such a
program. I would devote my energies to reinvigorating the grass roots.
In the U.S., much the most progressive legislation
Dear Prof:
My name is Julie Smith and I am a senior Economics undergraduate at the
University of Pittsburgh (Bradford) working on my honors project. I would
greatly appreciate if you could respond to a very brief survey I am conducting.
This will help me immensely towards my project. (I have
On Thu, June 5, 1997 at 09:48:29 (-0700) Doug Henwood writes:
Michael Perelman wrote:
The answer is that I would not even think of coming up with such a
program. I would devote my energies to reinvigorating the grass roots.
In the U.S., much the most progressive legislation in our history came
Michael talks of being in a quandary about what to do next. One of the
things that frustrates me about professional intellectuals (and why I
didn't stay in academia) is that they are content with reading and writing
for themselves. This is true, ironically (perhaps especially true) of
many
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Sid mentioned the number of people on the streets in France. Several
times, popular discontent has forced the government to back down on
attempts to impose austerity.
My question:
What parties or what political leaders have shown leadership in this
regard? I am not asking rhetorically, but
Michael Perelman wrote:
The answer is that I would not even think of coming up with such a
program. I would devote my energies to reinvigorating the grass roots.
In the U.S., much the most progressive legislation in our history came
during the Nixon years. Did Nixon have an effective reformist
Address by Mbhazima Shilowa, General Secretary, Congress Of South
African Trade Unions (COSATU) at Investment Conference in Bonn,
Germany 5 June 1997 Time: 11a.m.
Chairperson, comrade Nzo, delegates, comrades and friends. It is my pleasure
to present to you the COSATU perspective on the
A. S. Fatemi writes:
My prediction, forget about EURO (the single European currency for the
Europan Union, at least for the now. At minimum the datJanuary 1, 1999
, will have to change. That is a totally new discuand perhaps we shou
ld take it up later.
I'd happily take this up now.
1.
Doug Henwood wrote:
Perhaps it would be better to humbly join *their* progressive projects
rather than to "recruit" them to your projects.
Which projects are those?
If you have to ask, then you're spending too much time in front of your
computer screen.
Jerry
Greetings,
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:
The answer is that I would not even think of coming up with such a
program. I would devote my energies to reinvigorating the grass roots.
In the U.S., much the most progressive legislation in our history came
Michael,
I remember the first Mitterand/Socialist victory and the cheering in the
streets. We all know now what followed!
I think your point is a very valuable everywhere, including in the United
States when people think voting Democratic is progressive.
Paul
D Shniad wrote:
You're absolutely correct in your interpretation, Jerry.
Cheers,
Sid
PS -- what are you doing to change the world?
If you are asking me how I am currently politically active, then the
answer (in part) is that I have been and continue to be a participant in
the squatters
Tavis asks Mike a useful question. Mike P is installed as
maximum leader of France, albeit to everyone's surprise.
He must address the masses, who eagerly await his plans for their
salvation. He appears in full regalia and says, "Comrades,
we must reinvigorate our roots!" Those in attendance
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