Re: vanguards substitutionism

1998-01-02 Thread hoov
There is only one place in Lenin's writings where he specifically describes what a "vanguard" means. It is the section "The Working Class as Vanguard Fighter for Democracy" in "What is To Be Done". The notion of a vanguard emerges out of Lenin's struggle with the "Economists", *not* the

Re: vanguards substitutionism

1998-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Michael Hoover: Volume 13 of Lenin's *Collected Works* (in English, Moscow: Foreign Languages Publishing House) includes a piece entitled "Preface to the Collection 'Twelve Years'" written in 1907 in which L warns against taking *What is To Be Done* out of context...he maintains that it was

Village idiot and individualism :)

1998-01-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
Here is a village idiot story that, IMO, nicely summarizes the kind of thinking nowadays popular among libertarians, rat-choice sociologists and neo-classical economists. A village idiot saw a woman plucking geese. Nonplussed, he asked the woman "What are you doing?" "I'm plucking geese" the

Re: Marx on Native Americans

1998-01-02 Thread James Heartfield
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Heartfield: In Particular Marx and Engels both considered native American society backward technologically and morally, as the blood-ties of kinship groups (gens) stifled individual personality. I think at this point we

Re: Vanguard of the vanguard, 1998

1998-01-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 01:25 PM 12/31/97 -0800, Tom Walker wrote: The thing that interests me about the idea of a revolutionary vanguard is its shameless romanticism. Whatever else Leon Trotsky was, he cut a strikingly romantic figure -- poet, prophet, soldier, exile, martyr. Think of a transcendent persona and it

Re: vanguards substitutionism

1998-01-02 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski
At 03:53 PM 12/31/97 -0800, Jim Devine wrote: I think that the whole issue of whether or not we need vanguards boils down to how those vanguards act. Early on (1905?), old Leon T. launched a critique of Lenin for being "substitutionist." (See, e.g., Deutscher, THE PROPHET ARMED.) The critique

Re: Marx on Native Americans

1998-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Heartfield: In Particular Marx and Engels both considered native American society backward technologically and morally, as the blood-ties of kinship groups (gens) stifled individual personality. I think at this point we understand what Heartfield means by "individual personality". It has

Re: Marx on Native Americans

1998-01-02 Thread James Heartfield
This is a bit of a mess, because Louis is angry about something that gets in the way of his thinking, but here goes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Or was "ennobling" American Indians just a convenient fiction? Isn't that what I said? Fictitious. Property

Re: Marx on Native Americans

1998-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Heartfield: This is a bit of a mess, because Louis is angry about something that gets in the way of his thinking, but here goes: James, it not a bit of a mess. Your post is a complete mess. You should be aware that PEN-L is not the Spoons Lists. Over on the Spoons Lists you can feel free to make

Ride free or die!

1998-01-02 Thread Tom Walker
Robin Hahnel wrote, But these differences are not what is usually meant by people worried about the free rider problem in provision of public goods. They mean if we leave it to the market for people to buy as much pollution reduction or military defense as they want to, few if any will buy any

Black Gold (fwd)

1998-01-02 Thread Sid Shniad
The Irish Times, Wednesday, December 31, 1997 WORLD REVIEW Search for black gold disturbs ancient gods _ Michael

USA Today op-ed on Microsoft (fwd)

1998-01-02 Thread Sid Shniad
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 09:57:46 -0500 From: James Packard Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: USA Today op-ed on Microsoft The following is the text of Ralph Nader and James Love's 332 word op ed in the January 2, 1998 issue of USA Today. The editorial board of

Re: utopias

1998-01-02 Thread Tom Walker
Pardon me for reposting. I should have mentioned in the subject line that my message "ride free or die!" was a reply to the thread on utopias. Robin Hahnel wrote, But these differences are not what is usually meant by people worried about the free rider problem in provision of public goods.

Re: Marx on Native Americans

1998-01-02 Thread James Heartfield
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Over here much more rigor is necessary. and then It is the genocidal exploitation of Native Americans and African slaves that made US capitalism possible. I was unaware of the exploitation of Native Americans in the North.

Re: Marx on Native Americans

1998-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Heartfield: I was unaware of the exploitation of Native Americans in the North. One might have thought that reservations and genocide made exploitation impossible, but perhaps in your scientific rigour you have discovered some new form of exploitation. I am referring to the general sense of

Re: USA Today op-ed on Microsoft (fwd)

1998-01-02 Thread valis
Below is the gist of USA Today's editorial rebuttal of the Nader/Love contentions. 4%, is that the right figure, someone, and is it relevant where the effective issue is control of the Web? And the Apple analogy, something beyond ironic in view of last summer's shock MS bailout of Apple: is it

Computer Technology's Contribution to GDP; The Best ofTimes?; Gates' Conspiracy

1998-01-02 Thread Michael Eisenscher
http://www.businessweek.com/premium/02/b3560225.htm Economic Trends: Business Week 1/12/98 WHAT'S MOVING TODAY'S ECONOMY? Computer production explains a lot To a large extent, arguments that the U.S. has entered a new era of noninflationary robust growth have relied on the