Good points ricardo.
As to the point about the Soviet Union and the war, I think it is easy
to forget that the Soviets could have lost very easily. What I remember from
my military history is that even after the tide had turned, the Nazis
were able to inflict tremendous casualties on the Red Arm
Friends,
It is one thing to discuss the Sendero Luminoso movement in Peru and to try to get
through all of the propaganda put out about it. It is also one thing to understand
that people ravaged by brutal repression will often react vioently when they are
organized. It is one thing to say that
In updating the stats for the paperback edition of Wall Street (forthcoming
in June, order multiple copies, now!), I discovered that British net
foreign assets declined from 5.8% of GDP in 1993 (down from 22% in 1985!)
to 0.8% in 1996, the most recent year the IMF has numbers for. The few
other ye
At 06:55 PM 3/30/98 -0800, R. Anders Schneiderman wrote:
>Although the wave of propositions like 226 may do some short-term damage,
>in the long term I think it'll be one of the better things that happened to
>the union movement in recent history. In California, the bigger unions
>often spend a
At 02:02 PM 3/29/98 +, maxsaw wrote:
>The new leadership of the AFL took as its
>inaugural premise the need for a new, strong
>emphasis on organizing. I've seen a lot of
>complaints, present company excepted, about the
>new leadership's shortcomings, but no serious
>analysis of how they
Although not directly related to this topic I would like you to refer to my
first published paper while in the US titled "The Exhaustion of the
National Model of Development: Depeasantisation and Industrialisation In
Peru", Scandinavian Journal of Development Alternatives, Vol.X, No.4,
December 19
Mark Jones replies to Brian Green, saying (among other things): >Meaning,
we must take the PCP at your evaluation rather than it's own. <
I believe that it was Marx and Engels who argued that we should judge
no-one according to their own self-evaluation (in THE GERMAN IDEOLOGY, I
believe). The sa
Barkley,
I can't remember where I read it -- perhaps Covert Action --
about the US cutting all aid to Yugoslavia in the late 1980s
in an attempt to destabilize the country. The references
sounded genuine and refered to State Department declassified
documents if my memory serves me correctly. I
Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
> The biggest lie about conflicts in the x-Soviet empire, disseminated by the
> Anglo-American propaganda machine, is that those conflicts have ancient
> ethnic roots. In fact, they have been re-introduced to the region, after
> being nearly extinct under the "communis
Didn't take long for the tame Senderologists to show their head, did it?
The problem with the kind of thinking Rob Saute exemplifies is that his
alternative is, well, what they've got: Fujimori and all the things which give
him aid and comfort. Jim Craven asks why the bile? I believe it's this: th
God, how I hate it when people send things to the list instead of to
private parties. And now I've done it myself. I am deeply shamed. My
apologies to one and all.
Peter
Peter Dorman wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> On the subject of Slovenia, I'm wondering how you might respond to this
> situation:
As someone who is just an uninformed yet interested bystander
in this debate/dialogue, I am curious where Tupac Amaru fits
into the tapestry of the Peruvian left.
John Gulick
John Gulick
Ph. D. Candidate
Sociology Graduate Program
University of California-Santa Cruz
(415) 643-8568
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Paul,
On the subject of Slovenia, I'm wondering how you might respond to this
situation: I'm leading a group of students on an overseas study trip to
Budapest and Prague this summer. I've been looking into the possibility
of adding a side trip to Ljubljana. The train fare from Budapest is not
With all this discussion about the state of American Education, the
need for "outcomes assessment", "competencies" "exit testing" etc I
thought I woud pass along an early example of "outcomes assessment"
of the state and quality of American education. On June 17, 1744
(yes, 1744) Six United I
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MARCH 31, 1998:
Sales of new homes soared to a record high in February,
as the robust economy, low mortgage rates, and warm weather enticed
throngs of buyers. Single-family home sales rose 4.8 percent, to a
seasonally adjusted annual rat
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Wojtek:
> Following the line of argume
I am not going to get into the very complicated
question of Stalin's encouragement of folk cultures
(sometimes yes, sometimes no), oppression of ethnic
minorities (sometimes yes, sometimes no), or the CIA's role
in various nationalist uprisings in the USSR/FSU (sometimes
yes, sometimes n
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Barkley:
1) On the plus side the Soviet
At 05:09 PM 3/31/98 -0400, Richardo Duchesne wrote:
>Collateral damage?! Stalin's crimes, and of the Communist Party
>under him, were not "collateral" (citation marks or not). Neither
>were they mere economic costs. They were part of a *political*
>process of amassing absolute power, the likes
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> No, it's been long-standing practice amongst pen-lers to warn peopl
At 01:35 PM 3/31/98 -0500, Barkley Rosser wrote:
>
> Although I agree that the fall of Soviet-style
>socialism has had a negative impact on progressive impulses
>in capitalist countries from the US to places like Sweden
>which were proud of their "middle way," now suddenly a far
>left-wing
To whom..,
I'm sorry, I have posted too much today, and will be quieter in
the future, but sometimes it occurs to you exactly waht you want to say
after you've already said it.
I think you can say, without controversy, that the Bolsheviks
brought socialis
Barkley:
Thanks for your reply. You are certainly correct saying that Stalinist
policies did not institute racial harmony. However, I also think that your
analysis underestimates the class dimension of those policies. True, the
purveyors of ethnic identities, or the ethnic intelligentsia if y
C. Devine,
The problem is that you can't take Russia out of the post-WW2
picture as a major power. Otherwise Germany wins or the war ends with
nuclear attacks on Berlin or something.
The trick is to determine whether, for example , the third world
was op
To whom...,
I'd be very interested to find out what proportion of capital was
protected by copyrights and patents. They seem like obvious barriers to
generalizing control over the means of produciton, but I suspect they are
more obvious than barriers. My guess is t
8. Under Article III of the UN Convention the following acts
are punishable under the law:
a) Genocide;
b) Conspiracy to Commit Genocide
c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;
d) Attempt to commit genocide;
e) Complicity in genocide
9.
To whom...,
Repression of war and mass demonstrations is not repression of
hostilities. What about the class relations inherent in an authoritarian
regime? The criminal gangs associated with a lot of the violence in the
former Soviet empire and Yugoslavi
This message is blessedly shorter.
Ricardo D writes:
>... a key contending issue here - including the war issue - is: who
absorbs who? Do we incorporate Weber into Marx or vice versa? <
I don't see Marx as absorbing Weber, since I think it's important to
separate Marx and his writings (which
Although I agree that the fall of Soviet-style
socialism has had a negative impact on progressive impulses
in capitalist countries from the US to places like Sweden
which were proud of their "middle way," now suddenly a far
left-wing way embarrasingly, I think that all of this is
really
> The problem is that you can't take Russia out of the post-WW2
>picture as a major power. Otherwise Germany wins or the war ends with
>nuclear attacks on Berlin or something.
right. That's what Barkley and I were saying with our independently-posted
comments disparaging counterfactuals.
At 11:52 AM 3/31/98 -0500, you wrote:
> Palmer is absolutely correct on the precision of Sendero's use
>of violence. Sendero regularly targeted political activists whom
>most people on this list would consider on the Left.
>
> Finding the Communist Party of Peru incomparable to Pol Po
Wojtek,
Arguably there has been an exacerbation of ethnic
nationalism in the FSU since 1991. But your remarks about
ethnic relations in the USSR are a bit off. It may be that
the early Bolsheviks truly transcended ethnicity, with the
multi-ethnic Lenin himself exemplifying the multi-eth
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>Wojtek:
>
>Following up with your comments about non
>problems related to warra
Mr. Noonan,
It does not follow from what you say that hte ethnic hostilities
we see today in the old Soviet empire are products of recent politics.
The way they express themselves may be, but not the hostility and
prejudice itself. Chechens and Russians, for exampl
Palmer is absolutely correct on the precision of Sendero's use
of violence. Sendero regularly targeted political activists whom
most people on this list would consider on the Left.
Finding the Communist Party of Peru incomparable to Pol Pot and
the Khmer Rouge hardly excuses them
4. The Lebanese delegate to the Draft Convention on
Punishment and Prevention of the Crime of Genocide
in 1947 noted that what is at issue is the "destruction
of a [recognizably distinct] human group, even though
the individual members survive."
Rob Saute:
Of course, Louis Proyect is partially correct in the above
>statement. The Communist Party of Peru/Shining Path/Sendero Luminoso is
>not at war with the U.S. Left; they could probably care less. On the
>other hand, many a labor leader, leftist party militant, shanty-town
>orga
At 11:57 PM 3/30/98 EST, Boddhisatva wrote:
> You [Michael Perelman] and Mr. Devine seem to make the case that the U.S.
power structure had to keep wages up to compare favorably with the Soviet
Union. That assumes that wages could reasonably have been expected to drop
below Soviet levels. I just
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On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Louis Proyect wrote:
> We sometimes forget that the Shining Path is in a war
> with the Peruvian state and not the American left and its allies in Peru.
Of course, Louis Proyect is partially correct in the above
statement. The Communist Party of Peru/Shining Path/
PJM writes: > On principle, I don't think socialists should label any
system (social system, I adhere the classic critique that economics
arbitrarily severs the economic from the political) as socialist unless is
takes democratic input at many levels including at a national level, in the
tradition
Folks,
I'm trying to write a critique of the mainstream analysis of the balanced
budget arguments, especially in light of the recent "balance."
Looking back in the RRPE, I found one article by Paulo Cipolla in Vol. 24 #2,
Summer 1992. I like Cipolla's approach but it is a very short article.
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At 06:55 PM 3/30/98 -0800, Anders Schneiderman wrote:
>At 08:35 AM 3/28/98 -0800, Michael wrote:
>>Also in the Balance Sheet, we might include Stalin's brutal, but
>>relatively effective policy of suppressing/repressing ethnic hostilities.
>
>I don't see how you'd put that in anything other than t
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It appears to me we are getting bogged down with the wrong question, as far
as Sendero Luminoso is concerned, becoming locked into a debate which pits
theoretical heritage vs. human rights.
Louis' initial post makes an important point...Sendero's use of indigenous
imagery and its attempt to marry
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Research Notes from Warch Churchill's "Indians Are Us?:Culture
and Genocide in Native North America" and other Sources
Indicated
1."The fact that domestic law does not punish an act which is
an international crime does not free the perpetrator of
In a message dated 98-03-30 21:37:03 EST, you write:
<< Titoist Yugoslavia was not a command economy, but the
classic example of a market sociaist economy, with all the
faults and virtues therein. The current regime in the rump
state has become more of a command economy as a result of
I am a posting something I sent to Johnson's Russia List a while
back, for which he forgave me despite the rebarbative tone. It is
long.
Mark
Dear David Johnson
Perhaps you think I wrote a turgid convoluted apology for
Stalin and that makes me a loonie toon not worth an email, but
the truth
On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, R. Anders Schneiderman wrote:
> I don't see how you'd put that in anything other than the minus column.
> First off, it's hard to see how slaughtering or interning people is a plus.
> Second, this strategy was ultimately a failure: once the repression
> stopped, the old e
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