Jim D, rebutting someone, in part:
... Day and Walter are more concerned with the much longer wave
(300 years) theory of "la duree" due to Fernand Braudel,...
This reminds me of the 3000 year Enived cycle, of which the Braudel cycle
is but a small fraction. We are currently 500 years into
An intelligent discussion would begin by reading the references that
Anwar Shaikh (NB: _not_ "Sheik") gives rather than spinning one's
wheels in ignorance.
Or is it too much to ask that one become familiar with a person's work
before passing judgment on it?
Jerry
PS1: As this same person has
Levy wrote:
An intelligent discussion would begin by reading the references that
Anwar Shaikh (NB: _not_ "Sheik") gives rather than spinning one's
wheels in ignorance.
No, we were having an intelligent discussion, as evidenced by this offlist
post I received. You are attempting to degrade it by
The Financial Post February 5, 1999
CREDIT CRUNCH COULD CRUSH U.S. ECONOMY
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Paying with plastic
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'Everybody is buying on
credit. It's all going to crash'
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Brad De Long wrote:
But is that the alternative to debt reduction that we are faced with this
year? Tax cuts for the rich are even less to my taste...
So given a world in which politics is reduced to choose between tax cuts
for the rich and debt paydowns, you embrace the lesser evil rather than
[FTFebruary 6 1999 ]
But will the runaway locomotive come off the
rails?
The American railroad engine
is running at full power, but the old "locomotive"
theory of global economic growth can scarcely
work if the international carriages have become
detached. Anyway, on its own and
Mandel was no "Tofflerite". He was a revolutionary socialist. All I am
saying is that most of his substantial economic theory was geared to
understanding the post-WWII expansion and putting it into some kind of
perspective, so as to allow Marxist activists to swim against the stream.
He was
The mathematics of long waves of capitalism strikes me like the geometry of the
stripes on a tiger's back. Very pretty, but what we need to know is a mathematics of
the tiger's teeth, claws and vulnerable points.
Charles Brown
Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06 12:14 PM
The problem with
My understanding is that he thought that they were correlated with depressions. The
causal factors were weather conditions associated with sunspots that affected
agricultural production in a manner that produced depressions. Jevons was a solid
logician and wrote a classic text on logic. He was
"Rosser Jr, John Barkley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05 5:48 PM
Charles,
I think that we need to be clear about exactly at what
point there was a "taking" here, illegal, unethical,
inappropriately capitalistic, insufficiently "meeting of th
minds" or whatever. I would contend that it was
Yes Jery you are right, Doug Henwod is an evil exploiter of cheap, young
laborers and Lou Proyet is a nefarious racist pig...Neither makes an even
remotely valuable contribution to this list indeed.
Steve
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Gerald Levy wrote:
An intelligent discussion would begin by
Thank you, Doug. The advice to workers would be "don't believe them if they say they
don't have the money for big raises" perhaps ?
But when you say "we'll see", it does not seem to me that that gives a lead to workers
to seize agency, become self-determining. I would think something like, "
Max Sawicky quoted:
Business WeekEditorial February 15, 1999
A Better Use of Surpluses
President Clinton will be remembered for many things, but in the economic
arena, fiscal responsibility will top the list...
It's certainly prudent for President Clinton to worry about the solvency of
Ken Hanly writes: Jevons was a solid logician and wrote a classic text on
logic. He was not stupid or given to flights of
fancy.
Unfortunately, it's quite possible to be very logical and stupid at the
same time, if you start with the wrong premises. Neoclassical economics is
very logical, by
Doug Henwood wrote,
Whether times are good or bad, capitalists are useless and destructive.
Not very dialectical of you, Doug.
regards,
Tom Walker
Charles Brown wrote:
Thank you, Doug. The advice to workers would be "don't believe them if
they say they don't have the money for big raises" perhaps ?
Yes.
But when you say "we'll see", it does not seem to me that that gives a
lead to workers to seize agency, become self-determining. I would
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Jim D, rebutting someone, in part:
... Day and Walter are more concerned with
(From "Primitive Communism and Its Transformations", by Eleanor Burke
Leacock, Christine Ward Galley. This is an essay in Volume One of
"Civilization in Crisis," edited by Christine Ward Galley. This and a
companion volume are dedicated to the memory of the late Stanley Diamond,
chair of the
Brad De Long wrote:
But is that the alternative to debt reduction that we are faced with this
year? Tax cuts for the rich are even less to my taste...
So given a world in which politics is reduced to choose between tax cuts
for the rich and debt paydowns, you embrace the lesser evil rather than
"Belief in the omnipotence of technology is the specific form
of bourgeois ideology in late capitalism. This ideology proclaims
the ability of the existing social order gradually to eliminate
all chance of crises, to find a technical solution to all its
contradictions,
The problem with "long waves" is that it encourages us to think in terms of
capitalism having some kind of self-regulating mechanism, namely the
ability to foster "technological revolutions" ad infinitum, which is based
on an extrapolation from capitalism's history into the future. Just because
Louis Proyect wrote:
I also agree that Shaikh
hasn't done a good job of making his case. Remember his spiel with
Doug at Brecht Forum in Oct'97? Really odd...
Yeah? What about it?
Doug
Business WeekEditorial February 15, 1999
A Better Use of Surpluses
President Clinton will be remembered for many things, but in the economic
arena, fiscal responsibility will top the list. When he took office in
1993, the federal budget deficit came in at $225 billion, just off its high
It is sad to see so many from the mainstream of liberal
Keynesianism abandonding
all hope of accomplishing anything. Paying down the debt was a
traditional
Republican plank [honored in the breach by radical tax reforms.]
. . .
Call me naive but I am struck by the blatant political
[FTFebruary 6 1999 ]
But will the runaway locomotive come off the
rails?
The American railroad engine
is running at full power, but the old "locomotive"
.
At any rate, if the global slump arrives, the
Americans
In connection with Michael's excellent posting, it is interesting to note
that Time magazine (Feb. 8 1999) in an article devoted to the growing
numbers of homeless
wrote:
""A few minutes into his inaugural Address, on Jan 20, 1989, George Bush-
a Republican president often derided for his
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