Re: Re: Re: Chavez Returns

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Jannuzi
Bush and his State Dept. should be pinned to the wall on this. Charles Jannuzi = By who, space aliens? Ian 'Should be' should be 'will be', but it won't be. 'Should be' should be 'can be', but it probably won't be. Still, with Chavez's reversal of fortunes, and

Re: Chavez

2002-04-15 Thread Chris Burford
At 14/04/02 10:46 -0700, Michael Pugliese quoted from marxism-thaxis [BTW Michael the format comes out rather unreadably. Were you using web email or an email package? Did you unwrap the text? I have tried to unwrap part of it below] I think this argument is interesting because Dave B, whose

Re: man bites dog

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Jannuzi
Good article except it doesn't really analyze the US strategic trade plans or how even the EU hasn't really been able to stand up to these plans. Again, trade and finance are always high on the agenda of the NSC , and the NSC is the ruling council of the US (most people think wrongly that special

Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-15 Thread Grant Lee
Louis: You said: But I am trying to address the question of whether Argentina is qualitatively different from Great Britain. My purpose in these posts is to answer a current within Marxism that asserts that there is no difference. In that case you were complicating matters by referring to

Re: Chavez Returns

2002-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Bush and his State Dept. should be pinned to the wall on this. Charles Jannuzi = By who, space aliens? Ian 'Should be' should be 'will be', but it won't be. 'Should be' should be 'can be', but it probably won't be. Still, with Chavez's reversal of

NED Support for the Confederation of Venezuelan Workers

2002-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* Venezuela The American Center for International Labor Solidarity $60,084 To support the Confederation of Venezuelan Workers (CTV) to effect reforms intended to increase rank and file control over decision making. ACILS will conduct courses for regional federations of the CTV, focusing

Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-15 Thread Louis Proyect
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:29:15 +0800, Grant Lee wrote: I would ask: why would Marxists any longer seek solidarity with bourgeois nationalists, except in the now rare circumstances where the formal national question has never been resolved? In my last reply to you, I urged you not to put words in

Re: Re: BLS Daily Report

2002-04-15 Thread ravi
Sabri Oncu wrote: Hey, I also hired a few science Ph.Ds from very respectable schools for boring programing jobs (Ravi would know what I mean if I say they were required to write FORTRAN programs) for about $50K. i see what you mean, but fortran is a pleasure compared to what a lot of

Operation Anaconda: The Rest of the Story

2002-04-15 Thread Ken Hanly
From the LA Times, Cheers, Ken Hanly Operation Anaconda Leaves Bitterness in Its Wake Afghanistan: Residents of battle-torn region say the U.S. bombed their homes and killed their relatives. By DAVID ZUCCHINO, Times Staff Writer GARDEZ, Afghanistan -- Every morning, a forlorn procession

Chavez Returns

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Brown
Chavez Returns by Sabri Oncu 14 April 2002 08:09 UTC Top World News 04/14 03:26 Venezuela's Chavez Returns to Presidential Palace From Prison By Peter Wilson, Alex Kennedy, Patrick Gordon, and Toby Muse -clip- Chavez's return follows a day of rioting by his supporters Saturday that left

Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Brown
Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert) by bantam 13 April 2002 13:35 UTC So much for Hayek and his precious bloody price mechanism (sorry, Justin) ... and so much for Lenin and his precious bloody democratic centralism (sorry, Charles). ^^^ CB: Sorry, Rob, Leninist democratic centralism is

Re: Chavez Returns

2002-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
Is Chavez out of the woods yet? He has virtually no control over the media, as I understand it. The army is divided. And the US is dissatisfied. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

IBM, Microsoft plot Net takeover

2002-04-15 Thread Michael Perelman
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2861123,00.html -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-15 Thread bantam
G'day Charles, Sorry, Rob, Leninist democratic centralism is alive and well in Venezuela , where all power resides with the masses and their elected representatives in the CENTER ! Viva Bolivarian Bolshevism ! Either we're talking about different 'democratic centralisms' or we're

Re: Chavez Returns

2002-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
That is why Gordon Brown's plan for a global Marshall Aid plan is more progressive for democratic forces in less powerful countries, than Bush's policies. (Still of course imperialist.) Chris Burford The US isn't an economic engine that it once was: * Financial Times 4 February 2002

New War Times and Palestine Leaflet

2002-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
From: War Times [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New War Times and Palestine Leaflet List-Subscribe: http://www.mailermailer.com/x?oid=05376w Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Dear All, We hope this note finds you well. Palestine is on the frontlines. The outcome of that struggle is

Re: Re: Chavez Returns

2002-04-15 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] As the real value of the dollar appreciates from the extraordinary capital inflow with continuing US trade deficits, aircraft exporters such as Boeing will become less and less competitive with Airbus of Europe, steel

Wed., April 17: Destroying Freedom to Save It

2002-04-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Destroying Freedom to Save It: Implications of the USA PATRIOT Act A Panel Discussion on Liberties in Crisis Sponsored by The American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio The Ohio State University College of Social Work The Social Welfare Action Alliance The Student International Forum Wed., April

Bomb threat in Washington

2002-04-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Does anyone know anything about this? Sabri + Top World News 04/15 14:23 Washington Banks Closed After Police Get Bomb Threat (Update4) By Anna Marie Stolley Washington, April 15 (Bloomberg) -- Banks in Washington closed today as a security precaution after a bomb threat was received

Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Brown
Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert) by bantam 15 April 2002 17:36 UTC Date Index G'day Charles, Sorry, Rob, Leninist democratic centralism is alive and well in Venezuela , where all power resides with the masses and their elected representatives in the CENTER ! Viva Bolivarian

Re: Re: Barbara Rosenberg on the Anthrax Inquiry

2002-04-15 Thread Ken Hanly
Here is a relevant part of the article, Cheers, Ken Hanly Rosenberg offers two possible reasons why the agency is moving slowly and claiming publicly that it has no suspects yet. One is a fear that damaging and embarrassing details about secret U.S. biodefense programs might become public. As

RE: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-15 Thread Devine, James
In leftist theory, democratic centralism refers to the organization of the revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on members of that party, including its leadership. Though they may disagree with it at

.Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-15 Thread miychi
On 2002.04.17 02:30 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Charles, Sorry, Rob, Leninist democratic centralism is alive and well in Venezuela , where all power resides with the masses and their elected representatives in the CENTER ! Viva Bolivarian Bolshevism !

BLS Daily Report

2002-04-15 Thread Richardson_D
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, APRIL 15, 2002: One important measure of U.S. inflation rose sharply last month as the surge in world oil prices since mid-January began to work its way through the economy, the Labor Department reported Friday. Producer prices for

Nader

2002-04-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, I was doing some house cleaning and came across an old e-mail where I saw this article: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/mar2001/nad-m30.shtml What is your assessment of this article from the Fourth International? Sabri P.S: No flame wars please!

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Miyachi wrote: From the viewpoint of Stalinism, the content of centralization of power is not considered as a pair of centralization of leadership and decentralization of responsibility, but only centralization of leadership has been put forward. Dear Miyachi, I have served at a few of

Venezuela: Not Another Banana-Oil Republic by Gregory Wilpert

2002-04-15 Thread michael pugliese
NACLA, I think, had a recent piece by Wilpert. M.P. Received: 4/14/02 11:09:37 PM From: Gregory Wilpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add to People Section To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subject: Venezuela: Not Another Banana-Oil Republic MIME Ver: 1.0 Attachments: Part Number: 1 Part Type:

Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-15 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: [PEN-L:24950] Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism Miyachi wrote: From the viewpoint of Stalinism, the content of centralization of power is

RE: Nader

2002-04-15 Thread Max Sawicky
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/mar2001/nad-m30.shtml What is your assessment of this article from the Fourth International? The object of Nader's critique is spending programs that provide public subsidies to corporations. I don't necessarily buy his position, but it's a perfectly

The Coup *Will* be Televised: Hugo Chavez's Downfall and the Venezuelan

2002-04-15 Thread michael pugliese
Jon Beasley-Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.art.man.ac.uk/spanish/jbm.html http://www.art.man.ac.uk/lacs/ -- The Coup *Will* be Televised: Hugo Chavez's Downfall and the Venezuelan multitude by Jon Beasley-Murray So this is how one lives a modern coup d'tat: watching

Re: The Coup *Will* be Televised: Hugo Chavez's Downfall and the Venezuelan

2002-04-15 Thread Louis Proyect
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:38:49 -0700, Jon Beasley-Murray wrote: The current regime lacks any legitimacy, however much it may have paraded invented rituals for the cameras, and will survive only through repression or apathy. But the multitude is waiting for other alternatives, and other

Will China shake the world? by LIU YUFAN

2002-04-15 Thread michael pugliese
From:International Viewpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] FI press [EMAIL PROTECTED] FI-press-l Fourth International Press List -- Will China shake the world? LIU YUFAN concludes his analysis of the state and civil society in

Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-15 Thread Ken Hanly
Sorry about the blank message! Cheers, Ken Hanly Why Bush dances to Sharon's tune Israel's right-wing Likud party dominates U.S. Mideast policy through a powerful lobby in the American Congress By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor Who really is running America's Mideast policy?

RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-15 Thread Devine, James
I think it's a mistake to put so much emphasis on the Israeli lobby's impact. As Seumas Milne argued in the GUARDIAN awhile back, the reason why the U.S. elite favors Isreal is because the latter is the most loyal strategic ally that the U.S. has in a very strategic (read: oil) area. The Israeli

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
To protect the leadership. It's called the musical chairs theory of unaccountability. Ian Hey Ian, In the world of finance, what you said is called saving ass or ass saving, depending on which one you like more. If you are someone with some authority and have those below you with lots of

Marshall Aid plan

2002-04-15 Thread Chris Burford
At 15/04/02 13:59 -0400, Yoshie quoted : Financial Times 4 February 2002 Another consequence is that the world's richest, most mature industrial economy is essentially draining the rest of the world of capital. This is particularly hard on emerging markets and other developing countries.

India's software, IT services exports up 40%

2002-04-15 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Business Standard Tuesday, April 9, 2002 ECONOMY Software, IT services exports up 40% Our Corporate Bureau in New Delhi India's exports of computer software and IT-enabled services grew close to 40 per cent in rupee terms in 2001-02 at Rs 38,500 crore as compared to Rs 27,500 crore

Re: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-15 Thread Ken Hanly
But this loyal strategic ally has no oil and is opposed by US Arab allies who do have the oil. By its intransigence in refusing to withdraw from Palestinian authority areas and by its oppression of Palestinians Israel complicates rather than helps the US control oil producing states in the

Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-15 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey Ian, In the world of finance, what you said is called saving ass or ass saving, depending on which one you like more. If you are someone with some authority and have those below you with lots of responsibility, whenever

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
And just who was the fool who hired the MDIT? Who was the fool who assigned her the task of search and implementation? Why are they not gone? Ian They were the ones who possessed the centralized power. They are not gone because we, who worked under them, way below the

RE: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-15 Thread michael pugliese
Just a side note...ad hominem! Eric Margolis was one of a zillion Western journalists that trekke to Afghanistan in the 80's to do some Reaganite agit-prop for the anti-Soviet mujahdeen. Wrote a book reprinted after 9-11. If I had time to do a search on Margolis and Hekmatyar, the leader

Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-15 Thread Grant Lee
Louis, I'm sorry you feel that way. I took your reference to Lenin meant that you favoured the national front tactics of the early 1920s, which did involve bourgeois nationalists (in dependent countries). Imperialism deals with class relations, not which flag is flying over a country. I

Re: Nader

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Jannuzi
Max Sawicky The object of Nader's critique is spending programs that provide public subsidies to corporations. I don't necessarily buy his position, but it's a perfectly respectable left statement. This stuff, incidentally, is a very small part of the budget. The tax breaks are much