Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread joanna bujes
Melvin wrote: Personally, I abhor homosexuality and feel no compulsion whatsoever to explain why I think a man penis should be place in a women and not another man. I am not required to explain my ideology. Actually, there is no such thing as a man's penis, right? I mean there's your penis, which

Re: The text of Bush's speech at Whitehall Palace

2003-11-20 Thread joanna bujes
I don't actually know if I can make myself read it, but thank you for sending it. I guess it will tell me what the current voodoo words are, and perhaps I will be able to tell whether they have a real plan or a just another spin. Joanna Jurriaan Bendien wrote: The NZH reports: Police were out in

Scrooges take over child-care industry

2003-11-20 Thread Grant Lee
Millions milked The Age, November 17, 2003 Claims of mismanagement threaten the rapidly expanding child-care industry, writes James Kirby. Australia's child-care boom is turning ugly. Behind the painted smiles and cuddly brand names, this $3 billion service industry is at war with itself. A BRW

Childcare... (Important note)

2003-11-20 Thread Grant Lee
I would like to request that any responses to my last post do NOT use the same title as that post. Regards, Grant.

Re: The text of Bush's speech at Whitehall Palace

2003-11-20 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Well it's really more your type of thing (the Washington Post has quite a good micro-story: despite all the elaborate rituals and customs the president had to observe, the palace made certain accommodations to suit his tastes. The orchestra played King Cotton, a Sousa march, and My Heart Will Go

Re: Re: value and gender

2003-11-20 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Joanna and Jurriaan, Hello. Low-priced food lets bosses pay low wages to workers. The price, not taste, of this crappy food is what makes it central to relations between capitalists and the rest of us. Regards, Seth Sandronsky Date:Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:30:28 +0100 From:Jurriaan Bendien

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread ravi
joanna bujes wrote: Melvin wrote: Personally, I abhor homosexuality and feel no compulsion whatsoever to explain why I think a man penis should be place in a women and not another man. I am not required to explain my ideology. Actually, there is no such thing as a man's penis, right? I mean

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Carrol Cox
ravi wrote: joanna bujes wrote: Melvin wrote: joanna, i commend you on your rational and measured response. i am not sure melvin deserves such consideration. I've filtered Melvin into trash for so long I'd forgotten that he was on the list. The author of the stuff that You, Joanna, and

Re: Subject: Re: Re: value and gender

2003-11-20 Thread joanna bujes
The relationship between nutrition and health is not a middle class or bourgeois prejudice. It is a fact. Joanna I don't know if that is good or bad, but anyway it is not true and more a middleclass or bourgeois prejudice. Seth Sandronsky

the Dems are better for Capital?

2003-11-20 Thread Devine, James
[see comment at end.] November 20, 2003/New York TIMES. Which Party in the White House Means Good Times for Investors? By HAL R. VARIAN DOES the stock market do better when a Republican is president or when a Democrat is? The answer is: It's not even close. The stock market does far better

Re: The text of Bush's speech at Whitehall Palace

2003-11-20 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/03 10:47PM The NZH reports: Police were out in force in the evening to ensure activists did not breach a cordon in front of the palace, where Bush and his wife were to spend their second of three nights. Airline worker Dawn Totten, 50, said she had flown from her home in

Re: The text of Bush's speech at Whitehall Palace

2003-11-20 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Hoover wrote: bush's attitude re. protests seems to be attempt to disempower them, he said same thing the other day that he said in australia a few weeks back: 'i love protests, people are free to protest in this society, iraqi's couldn't protest a year ago, north koreans can't

Re: The text of Bush's speech at Whitehall Palace

2003-11-20 Thread Devine, James
could someone remind me what the content of marcuse's critique of abstract 'pure tolerance' as 'repressive' was? Jim

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/20/03 8:58:30 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've filtered Melvin into trash for so long I'd forgotten that he was onthe list. The author of the stuff that You, Joanna, and others havequoted probably ought not to be allowed on a list that calls

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Louis Proyect
Why is homosexuality a Wedge issue? Here is a simply question that requires thinking. Bigotry is not the answer. Melvin P. I don't think that Carrol was referring to serious differences of opinion. He was referring to stupid shock jock remarks that you made that embarrass you and that get in the

Re: the Dems are better for Capital?

2003-11-20 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I did a similar piece on my website but in reference to investment spending. Includes a colorful chart. http://maxspeak.org/gm/archives/1569.html mbs -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Devine, James Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:33 PM To:

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/19/03 11:34:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, there is no such thing as a man's penis, right? I mean there's your penis, which you have the right to decide where to place. And then there's other men and their penises, and I guess the question

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/20/03 12:08:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think that Carrol was referring to serious differences ofopinion. He was referring to stupid "shock jock" remarks that you madethat embarrass you and that get in the way of you being taken

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/20/03 12:08:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like: "I swear, if the girls do not clean up my stove I am going to kicktheir asses." Why should I not kick their ass. Do you have kids or just stupid? Melvin P.

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Louis Proyect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like: I swear, if the girls do not clean up my stove I am going to kick their asses. Why should I not kick their ass. Do you have kids or just stupid? Melvin, Michael Perelman is probably too busy writing his next book to pay attention to this thread but I will not

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Michael Perelman
I have been teaching all morning. I do not like to give anyone the boot, but this sort of language is not acceptable. Nor did I appreciate Carroll saying that he filters someone. Go ahead and filter, but you don't need to make it public. Maybe the exchange shows why gay marriage is such an

Re: The text of Bush's speech at Whitehall Palace

2003-11-20 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Jim asked: could someone remind me what the content of marcuse's critique of abstract 'pure tolerance' as 'repressive' was? See for example: http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/personal/reading/wolff-tolerance.html I suppose the general substance in Marcuse's idea is: (1) a position of tolerance

Re: Subject: Re: Re: value and gender

2003-11-20 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
The relationship between nutrition and health is not a middle class or bourgeois prejudice. It is a fact. Agreed, but we were talking about cheap food. Not all cheap food is healthy, to be sure, but a lot of cheap food is healthier or has the same nutritive content as more expensive food. The

40 years later

2003-11-20 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: 40 years later The Cold November Gang ©1991 Dan Scanlan F Bb They're adventurers and spies and they have a long-range plan C F That includes you and me as merely nameless pawns Bb In a scrambled, futile buzzy-ness, a Zapruder fillm, F C# C F A motorcade of lies,

no lookey sez bush

2003-11-20 Thread Dan Scanlan
CauseNET for November 20, 2003 EYE ON IRAQ - President Bush Says 'No' To More Transparency The already limited powers of the newly created Inspector General position in Iraq received another blow when President Bush indicated he would further restrict its powers to conduct investigations. Upon

meanwhile, in Miami

2003-11-20 Thread Eubulides
scroll down for the daily updates: http://www.ictsd.org/issarea/Americas/FTAA_ministerial/miami/index.htm Also: http://www.ftaaimc.org/en/index.shtml To this day, no one has come up with a set of rules for originality. There aren't any. [Les

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Um, let's see, because it is child abuse? Joel Original Message: - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:43:17 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the next wedge issue In a message dated 11/20/03 12:08:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like:

US: gender and pay

2003-11-20 Thread Eubulides
[The report, at http://www.gao.gov is Women's Earnings: Work Patterns Partially Explain Differences Between Men's and Women's Earnings. GAO-04-35] GAO Study Finds Work Patterns Don't Explain Pay Gap Between Men, Women The Associated Press Thursday, November 20, 2003; 2:40 PM Women's income is

Greenspan squawks on trade

2003-11-20 Thread Eubulides
http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/speeches/2003/20031120/default.htm Remarks by Chairman Alan Greenspan At the 21st Annual Monetary Conference, Cosponsored by the Cato Institute and The Economist, Washington, D.C. November 20, 2003

Marx Conference in Havana, May 2004

2003-11-20 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Dear Friends and Comrades, I have pasted below the invitation to attend the 2nd Marx Conference in Havana in May 2004. For those who attended this year's conference, let me call your attention to some significant changes. Whereas this year's conference was organised on a shoe-string basis and

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread ravi
Michael Perelman wrote: Maybe the exchange shows why gay marriage is such an effective wedge issue. Maybe some day we can figure out how to make people get as worked up over working conditions, inequality, the environment ... with all due respect, MP, i do get equally worked up about

Re: Greenspan squawks on trade

2003-11-20 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks Ian, That's a brilliant exercise in tautology by Greenspan. But what does he really mean when he says: Indeed, the example of the fifty states of the United States suggests that, with full flexibility in the movement of labor and capital, adjustments to cross-border imbalances can occur

Re: Greenspan squawks on trade

2003-11-20 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] The buildup or reduction in financial claims among trading countries--that is, capital flows--are hence exact mirrors of the current account balances. And just as net trade and current accounts for the world as a whole

London Anti-War Demo Report

2003-11-20 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:48:20 + From: T.Hartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: London anti-war demo report Hi all. we had an amazing demo in London today. We gathered at the March assembly point, but didn't get to march properly until 1.5 hours after the official start. The mood was very good

Emrah Goker on Istanbul bombings

2003-11-20 Thread Louis Proyect
My home is in Ankara, but I just talked to a friend on the phone, and learned that a mutual close friend was wounded in the HSBC bombing. Luckily, only slight cuts of broken glass. Small relief amidst a horrific disaster. I can tell from some of the message trafficking on Turkish e-forums that

The Marxism of William Bill Brenner?

2003-11-20 Thread Louis Proyect
(A fascinating article from a Lebanese newspaper. I especially appreciated the take on Marxism that is not related to the 3rd world which it blames on William Bill Brenner. I believe that the author was confusing Bill Warren with Robert Brenner, an entirely understandable error.) The Spread

The Nation Magazine and General Wesley Clark

2003-11-20 Thread Louis Proyect
Since it is entirely possible that their favorite candidate Howard Dean might select this war criminal as his running mate, it appears necessary to give him some kind of kosher stamp of approval. That task was assigned to Frances Fitzgerald, a member of the editorial board, and author of Fire in