RE: Re: Korean news

2001-01-29 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Obviously, after watching it go on amongst multiple participants for a couple of years, "we" can't; hey, we're just like everyone else :-) who can't debate all that well. "Proof" the economy is much too important to be left to economists. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: Re: Re: Rumsfeld falsifies Rational Choice

2001-01-29 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
He could be playing what Thomas Ferguson calls 'the investment theory of politics and party competition'; tiny sacrifice now big gains down the road. Although he's kind of old ain't he? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Devine

From economics to philosophy

2001-01-28 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Full article at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,7369,430264,00.html Opening gambit without strategy Special report: globalisation Larry Elliott in Davos Monday January 29, 2001 First, the good news. Everybody in Davos knows that there is a problem with globalisation. Things

Re: Buck Fush

2001-01-27 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Yoshie wrote: We need to criticize Bush's anti-abortion policy, but we also have to point out that supporters for "international family planning organizations" include an unsavory bunch of people who are obsessed with "overpopulation." When we compare Kerala the rest of India, it's clear that

Bankers squabble at Davos

2001-01-27 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,429512,00.html Bankers slam UK euro policy Special report: economic and monetary union Larry Elliott in Davos Saturday January 27, 2001 The president of the Bundesbank, Ernst Welteke, raised the temperature yesterday in the debate over

Oops, there went 3 trillion $$

2001-01-27 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
So, "they" can gamble away 3 trillion, but by golly, the South has got to pay those debts!!! full article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/28/business/28WATC.html January 28, 2001 Market Watch: Eroding Paper Gains May Undo a Remarkable Resiliency By GRETCHEN MORGENSON Stock market investors

RE: Re: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-26 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
He's a Randite. He's always been a Randite. Conditional on the government's size being fixed, he's in favor of budget surpluses. But give him an opening where he thinks there's an opportunity to shrink the government permanently, and he'll go for it. And he is really, really scared

Gene Coyle, pundit

2001-01-26 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010212c=1s=wasserman

RE: Re: RE: The Globe and Mail on NMD system.

2001-01-26 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Jeff B I'm not sure I follow your question. There's nothing "post-Westphalian" about elite pessimism becoming instantiated in the military policies of states. Pessimism about the motives of other states in an international system in which states must provide for their own security is the

The globalization of accounting

2001-01-26 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/26/business/26ACCO.html?pagewanted=all January 26, 2001 Fewer Borders for Global Accounting By FLOYD NORRIS A new International Accounting Standards Board was appointed yesterday, with a mission of producing coordinated accounting standards within a few years.

Re: Union Trends and Data

2001-01-26 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
This is bullshit. The reason that national union membership is shrinking is because the labor force is being recomposed with contingent work - temp jobs, part-time jobs, adjunct workers - and the AFL-CIO refuses to fight for contingent workers or to challenge the legislation denying contingent

Paul P is right...

2001-01-26 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
full article at: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2001-01/taboo270101.shtml Germany breaks taboo to defuse its pensions timebomb By Imre Karacs in Berlin 27 January 2001 A much-trimmed blueprint for the overhaul of Germany's stretched state pension system was passed by the

RE: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-25 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Maxster, Does AG's claim of: "In contrast, the experience of the past five to seven years has been truly without recent precedent. The doubling of the growth rate of output per hour has caused individuals' real taxable income to grow nearly 2-1/2 times as fast as it did over the preceding ten

RE: RE: RE: Al Goes Wacky

2001-01-25 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
. . . jibe with M B's latest S of WA? If not where's AG getting his data from? [sorry, haven't got my copy of it yet] mbs: Where are saying there is a contradiction? Remember, taxable income is a much narrower category than anything in GDP. *** I can't make out your

RE: The Globe and Mail on NMD system.

2001-01-25 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Apropos the conversation on the uselessness of "globalization" and the Bush Admin. obsession with deepening the militarization of space-time. So while we have governments, are we heading into a post-Westphalian political ecology of conflict via elite pessimism becoming ever more instantiated in

WTO admits it is anti-democratic

2001-01-24 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[The ruler of Qatar is Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani. In theory his power is absolute, but he consults with the Cabinet, other members of the ruling Al-Thani family, representatives of the larger merchant families and with the Advisory Council whose members he appoints. The Council comments

RE: The Globe and Mail on NMD system.

2001-01-24 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Some Seattleites are thinking about some way of shaming Boeing and the Machinists on this as they just got a 6billion $$ contract to build stuff that will lead eventuallyto the Death Star. In fact some artists are toying with a Death Star with Boeing's logo tacked on it. It's a f*g

RE: RE: The Globe and Mail on NMD system.

2001-01-24 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
the fundamental flaws of the TRW discrimination system. These practices violated canonical principles of objective, verifiable scientific methods and constituted a fraud against the Government. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lisa Ian Mu

Why we call for Civilization, not globalization

2001-01-23 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[Yet more on the phlogiston that is "the free market"] http://www.iht.com/articles/8510.html As Asian Reforms Go Into Eclipse, Growth Outlook Darkens Michael Richardson International Herald Tribune Wednesday, January 24, 2001 SINGAPORE: The signs are surfacing across Asia. . In South Korea,

Energy deregulation GATS

2001-01-22 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
The Globe and Mail January 22, 2001 U.S. touts California-style power plan By Barrie McKenna SAN FRANCISCO -- The U.S. government is pushing California- style power deregulation on the rest of the world even as the state's

RE: [Fwd: Rally for Public Power with TURN]

2001-01-22 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Hats off to you and your fellow mischief makers Gene! ACORN has galvanized Seattle on this issue big time in the past 2 weeks Ian

Stop the light

2001-01-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[it was this kind of activity that "The Matrix" was mythologizing to space-time writ large...it's stuff like this that makes techno-libertarians so giddy about "the new economy"] full article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/18/science/18LIGH.html January 18, 2001 Single-Page Format

RE: Re: Predicting 9 of the last 3 recessions

2001-01-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
, as I assume we will has the recession unfolds. Lisa Ian Murray wrote: http://www.iht.com/articles/7768.html The Unpredictable Economy: Experts Missed Last 9 Recessions Steven Pearlstein Washington Post Service Wednesday, January 17, 2001 WASHINGTON In presenting his annual

FTAA

2001-01-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
I just received a long analysis of the upcoming FTAA talks by Maude Barlow of the Council of Canadians. If any one wants a copy feel free to reply off list. Ian

Re: RE: Re: RE: Bankruptcy again

2001-01-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[this is the list from Battelle's website; they are the contractors, along with Bechtel and the Midwest Research Institute, that run the National Renewable Energy Lab for the US Gov. in Colorado... http://www.nrel.gov ] Top Ten Energy Innovations for 2010 2000 Press Release The top 10 most

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Bankruptcy again

2001-01-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
full article at: http://www.independent.co.uk/argument/Leading_articles/2001-01/leaderb19010 1.shtml Power cuts in California hold a green message 19 January 2001 It has come to something when the lights go out in California, the richest and most populous state of the richest nation in the

Militarizing the monitoring of capital flows

2001-01-16 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
full article at: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/01/16/world/16PREX.html?pagewanted=all The Mexican peso crisis crept up unnoticed here, and in 1997 and 1998, the C.I.A. and the State Department's economics officers also failed to detect early signs of the currency crisis in Asia that ultimately

RE: Re: globalization {note the use of quotes}

2001-01-16 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Because it's important to show that what humans can do, humans can also undo - that the "laws" of capitalism are the result of a social system and not more-or-less immutable physical forces. The ruling class likes to talk about the inevitability of globalization - like Bill Clinton, who

More on the British Railway market/state failure front....

2001-01-16 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
full article at: http://www.independent.co.uk/argument/Leading_articles/2001-01/leaderb16010 1.shtml Why should taxpayers subsidise shareholders? 16 January 2001 Who will pay for Railtrack's failures? Now that the cost of the post-Hatfield compensation and repairs to the railway

Predicting 9 of the last 3 recessions

2001-01-16 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.iht.com/articles/7768.html The Unpredictable Economy: Experts Missed Last 9 Recessions Steven Pearlstein Washington Post Service Wednesday, January 17, 2001 WASHINGTON In presenting his annual economic outlook last Thursday, the chairman of President Bill Clinton's Council of

RE: Re: RE: Re:Anti-globalization activists...

2001-01-15 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Lisa Ian Murray wrote: So when will the campus shutdowns begin in earnest :-)? My resident expert on student activism tells me that the kids are "in hiatus," but that things will pick up soon. Trying to ameliorate the keg party deficit? Speaking of which, s

RE: Re:Anti-globalization activists...

2001-01-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Since, perhaps not everyone has seen the whole SFBG interview with Doug: http://www.sfbg.com/News/35/15/15bgiv.html DH: I guess one of the more depressing aspects of political life in the last 20 years has been this absolute sense of resignation on the part of so much of the left. But it seems

RE: Re: Re: Bankruptcy Question

2001-01-13 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Back in the mid 90's UPS threatened the Teamsters with a reorg so as to be classified as an Airline like FedEx in order to break the union; they basically told the Teamsters "go organize FedEx or we'll do it." This was while they were in court trying to have FedEx' status changed so that those of

The problem...

2001-01-13 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[you knew this but hey, let's spread the news.:-)] [full article] http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,421743,00.html A dominant world view coalescing around the Bush administration is that the US is the true leader of the civilised world, with a historic duty to promote the liberal

RE: 'Anti-globalization activists have their facts wrong.' Really?

2001-01-12 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Call these guys http://www.cepr.net Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:12 AM To: PEN-L Subject: [PEN-L:6890] 'Anti-globalization activists have their facts wrong.' Really? can anyone with a better

RE: Re: Re: Hoarding

2001-01-12 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
thank you. ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JW Mason Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:6897] Re: Re: Hoarding Lisa Ian Murray wrote: You wrote: Have you read Jim

RE: Re: 'Anti-globalization activists have their facts wrong.' Really?

2001-01-12 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
If you don't know the stats, then how do you know it's drivel? Looks like most of the claims in the piece are defensible. A recent NBER working paper http://papers.nber.org/papers/W8058 finds very little effect of trade on national wage structures; what really matters are domestic

RE: semiconductor production

2001-01-11 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Michael, These folks can tell you: http://www.svtc.org/ Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Perelman Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:6877] semiconductor production Does

Re: Hoarding

2001-01-11 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
J. W. Mason Department of Economics University of Massachusetts - Amherst (413) 253-5817 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You wrote: Have you read Jim Crotty's article, "Owner-Management Conflict and Financial Theories of Investment Instability"? Gotta journal cite for it? Ian

Greening the banks or banks doing greenwashing...

2001-01-10 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.envirobank.org/ It is clear that the European banking community is far ahead of the US when it comes to the concept of investment in green assets...Representing a perspective from the United States, Helen Sahi of FleetBoston Financial presented a discussion related to image risk

Green revolt against mad cow disease takes a BIG leap

2001-01-10 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[this is big news...] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2001-01/bse110101.shtml Meat-loving Germany gets Green minister to oversee farm revolution BSE crisis: Schroder reshuffle aims to restore consumer confidence in wake of scares over mad cow disease and collapsing beef sales By

Re: Implications of Surplus Tax Cut?

2001-01-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0109-04.htm Published on Tuesday, January 9, 2001 Distributed by Knight-Ridder/Tribune Media Services Clinton's Economic Legacy by Mark Weisbrot America' 42nd President, William Jefferson Clinton, is likely to be remembered for the longest- running business

RE: Speculative vs real investment

2001-01-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Barnet Wagman wrote: Once current income starts whirling around in the speculative sector, it can stay there for a very long time. This is an issue that I've never seen addressed very clearly. Actually, I'm not sure I've ever really seen it addressed at all (except in the paper

RE: Re: RE: Speculative vs real investment

2001-01-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
For the record, I'm not in favor of any and all profit-driven investment programs. I do think we need to understand better how the system works, however. It is not clear to me (or to lots of other folks on and off this list) whether the "speculative versus real finance" story is logically

RE: Re: Re: energy experts

2001-01-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Have you rattled Gray Davis' teeth Gene? Governor's Office Governor Gray DavisState Capitol BuildingSacramento, CA 95814Fax: 916-445-4633[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of

Re: Re: energy experts

2001-01-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
From: http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/BCSIA/ETIP.nsf/www/Home Underinvestment: The Energy Technology and RD Policy Challenge Margolis, Robert M., and Daniel M. Kammen. "Underinvestment: The Energy Technology and RD Policy Challenge." Science 285 (30 July 1999): 689-692. This journal is

RE: [PEN-L:6812] query: economic clichés

2001-01-09 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
buy cheap sell dear -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Devine Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:6812] query: economic clichs could anyone give me some commonly-used economic clichs?

Greenspan and the education crisis..

2001-01-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[Strange appositeness] full article at http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,419237,00.html Greenspan - a guru but not a god Larry Elliott Monday January 8, 2001 The ancient Greeks believed their world was ruled by gods and goddesses living on the summit of Mount Olympus. There

RE: Re: Re: Chrysler to be downsized again

2001-01-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
What was the ratio of expansionary to bust phase before the last fifty years ? What is the ratio for most of the world, not just the U.S. ? Perhaps the U.S. has figured out how to dump some of its bust phase onto other countries, like Southeast Asia in 1998. What is your point ? That U.S.

RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Implications of Surplus Tax Cut?

2001-01-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Henwood Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:6736] Re: Re: RE: Re: Implications of Surplus Tax Cut? Ellen Frank wrote: Personally, I don't see that

James Galbraith on the election debacle

2001-01-07 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[Isn't corporate democracy a contradiction in terms and didn't the Italians have a name for what's happening?] full article at http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0107-01.htm Published on Sunday, January 7, 2001 in the Boston Globe Our New Corporate Republic by James K. Galbraith WITH THE

Striking at Korean Banks

2000-12-24 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Striking Korean workers barricade themselves to protest bank merger December 24, 2000 Web posted at: 4:43 PM HKT (0843 GMT) By PAUL SHIN SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- Riot police on Sunday surrounded a building in South Korea where 15,000 striking union workers barricaded themselves to protest

Soros in the hot seat

2000-12-23 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
U.S. Financier Soros To Stand Trial By VERENA VON DERSCHAU= Associated Press Writer= PARIS (AP) _ A Parisian investigating magistrate has ordered U.S. financier George Soros and three others to stand trial for their alleged roles in a 1988 insider trading scheme, judicial sources said Friday.

FW: [WTO-REGISTRATION4:59] News and end of year greetings from WTO

2000-12-22 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Dear Website users, Please find the following reports on our website issued at 13hr today. Please note: to access the information you can either click on the link below or copy and paste the address into your browser. If the new information doesn't appear on the page, try refreshing the

RE: RE: RE: Re: Bill Tabb is gone: A new direction??

2000-12-21 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
. . . "Fair Trade" was merely a term of coalition building convenience; the WTO is the ultimate social clause as it regulates the ability of governments to regulate commerce, the currently ultimate form of social activity on the planet. mbs: I can't tell who's saying what here but

RE: Economists surprised???

2000-12-21 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
today's (12/21/00) Wall St. Journal says that economists and corporate chiefs alike have been surprised by the "sudden" world wide slowdown in the economy. They should have listened to Rob Schaap Gene Coyle ** "Specifically, we ask whether, given commercial forecasts

The fractal geometry of labor saving technical change

2000-12-21 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[Just how many food testers are in the work farce?] http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns227049 The big crunch TESTERS of cornflakes and potato snacks may soon be superseded by a "crunchmeter" that uses fractal geometry to gauge their crispiness. Developed by food scientists at the

Re: Economists surprised???

2000-12-21 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Eugene Coyle wrote: They should have listened to Rob Schaap Starting when? Doug *** From: Rob Schaap Subject: Re: Re: U.S.Monetary Policy Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:14:35 -0800 Evening all, If

RE: Bill Tabb is gone: A new direction??

2000-12-20 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
In any case, I have believed for some time that we are going into a recession. I think that people are going to be more receptive of left ideas. I would like to see pen-l function as an incubator for good economic thinking. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State

RE: A new direction??

2000-12-20 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
CB: What is the progressive economic solution for the recession ? Why should large numbers of voters be interested in those solutions ? What do radical have to cure a depression ? Some kind of neo-Keynesianism ? What's more radical than Keynesianism , but not Marxism ? How does

RE: Re: Bill Tabb is gone: A new direction??

2000-12-20 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
2. Will Americans be really more receptive of left ideas in the event of recession? If so, which kind of left ideas? Given the main currents of Seattle like movements as well as the Nader/Green campaign, is the likely winner -- *if* left-wing ideas gain more currency at all -- a

RE: Re: Bill Tabb is gone: A new direction??

2000-12-20 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
I'm saying that we who disagree with respectable policy wonks, NGOs, the AFL-CIO, as of now, do not appear to have enough power to benefit from hypothetical receptivity to left-wing ideas in the event of recession. In other words, the fix-it camp (wonks, NGOs, the AFL-CIO) seems stronger

Dubya's Treasury pick

2000-12-20 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Bush Picks Alcoa Exec As Treasury Secretary AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) - President-elect George W. Bush chose Alcoa Chairman Paul O'Neill Wednesday to be his treasury secretary, saying the executive shared his

RE: Query onTrade

2000-12-19 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Ali wrote: I am presently researching Trade issues. I recall Bill Tabb in a monthly review article mentioning that the increase in global trade is due to inter-company trade. Maybe my memory is not all that clear on that but are there data and measurement sources for this.

Re: Japan...and the ruling class take on it's future

2000-12-19 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Tadashi Nakamae has a short essay that's very gloomy over the medium term in the latest issue of "The International Economy" which, according to my sources, is the magazine of choice for "globalization" coneheads in Washington DC. They have a website but the latest stuff isn't on it. Ian

De-Privatizing British Rail?

2000-12-19 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
full article at: http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,413286,00.html Time to backtrack If the government can think the unthinkable on the tube, next it should return Railtrack to public control Special report: transport in Britain Ros Coward Tuesday December 19, 2000

Gene Coyle having an out of body experience

2000-12-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg

RE: Re: Re: Question for the Lefties -- II

2000-12-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Strictly speaking the socialists drew upon Rousseau's notion of "perfectabilité," (which the translator, Roger D. Masters, says means "the capacity to make progress" in J-J Rousseau, THE SOCIAL CONTRACT AND DISCOURSE ON THE ORIGIN OF INEQUALITY, Lester Crocker, ed. Washington Square

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Question for the Lefties -- II

2000-12-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
At least you knew what I was referring to, which was the point of using the term. I don't think it's worth spending a lot of energy arguing about the meanings of words, since they are usually pretty arbitrary and conventional. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: language

2000-12-18 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
JD I think it's quite possible to simply define "democracy" as we think is most appropriate (which isn't that different from the official rhetorical definition, i.e., government for, by, and of the people) and then point out how the reality of our government doesn't live up to that

RE: Doctors Saving Lives Growing Potatoes in Russia

2000-12-17 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Yoshie wrote: On this list, we've discussed the divisions of mental manual labor, intellectuals manual laborers, "conception" "execution," "pleasant work" "shitwork," etc. Here's an article on post-Soviet Russian doctors growing potatoes to survive while still trying to practice

RE: Re: Doctors Saving Lives Growing Potatoes in Russia

2000-12-17 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Yoshie and others, Whenever you see a dangling m or l at the end of a link that's wrapped because of margins, type it in when you paste the URL. http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11939-2000Dec15.html A Washington Post investigation into corporate drug experiments in Africa, Asia,

WTO stats.

2000-12-17 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Differing WTO, UNCTAD perceptions http://www.indiaserver.com/thehindu/2000/12/14/stories/0614000i.htm for full article THE DIRECTOR-GENERAL of the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in his annual overview of the multilateral trading system, has raised concerns about the increasing recourse of

German Unions thwart Schroeder on Pensions

2000-12-17 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[inspiration for the AFL-CIO?]full article at: http://www.iht.com/articles/4532.html Unions Force Schroeder to Yield on Pension Cuts John Schmid International Herald Tribune Saturday, December 16, 2000 German Leader's Economic Plan Dealt Setback FRANKFURT Unions forced the government Friday to

RE: comedy central

2000-12-16 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Michael is there a link for this? Ian NITED NATIONS, Dec. 15 — Secretary General Kofi Annan named a high-level advisory panel of international financial experts today and gave them five months to come up with concrete ideas to help poor countries

RE: Fwd: NEWS: Bushing Ahead

2000-12-16 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
from SLATE magazine: *In case you have accidentally swallowed poison, please read this item repeatedly.* The [Washington POST's] Lloyd Grove reports that Wednesday night, Dick Cheney partied with Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Anthony M. Kennedy. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: RE: Re: Re: Question for Lefties, and Left Green Synthesis

2000-12-15 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
I definitely don’t mean post-technological. By postindustrial, I mean possibilities created by the industrialization of culture to replace physical resources and cog-labour (the key elements of classical industrial development) with human creativity. *** Don't we have too much

RE: Re: Re: Re: analytical philosophy

2000-12-15 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Hey the sentence of yours below that I riffed on doesn't say squat about scientific method; which as you said can't be fully explicated anyway even if there is one. The "fact" is that law is a manifestation of philosophical discourse that merely happens to be backed up with guns. Surely you don't

RE: analytical philosophy

2000-12-15 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/14/00 07:39PM Too many Socratic personality types running around will make it hard for those with authoritarian personality disorder to tell the rest of us how to live. (( CB: Turns out Socrates and Plato supported the dictators/authoritarians

RE: RE: analytical philosophy

2000-12-15 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
It just seemed like you were saying that Socratic types, Platonists, idealists were opponents of authoritarians, a free spirit image that a lot academic types like to project, but which is the opposite of the facts. CB Well, apologies for the muddle and, to be fair, my

EU trying to save the little fishies

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[full article at: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2000-12/fish141200.shtml Europe EU debates big cuts in fish catches 14 December 2000 European Union fisheries ministers were today debating plans to cut catch quotas by up to 74 per cent next year to prevent stocks from being

California energy crunch...

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[full article at: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Americas/2000-12/calif141200.shtml Emergency powers to prevent Californian blackouts By Patrick Connole 14 December 2000 President Bill Clinton's administration took the rare action yesterday of invoking emergency powers to stave

Redirecting post-WTO energy at....energy

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.platts.com/index.html Global Energy Business May/June 2000 Special Report The 15th Annual Global Power Markets Conference But even if that huge sum can be borrowed, isn't there a danger that Nimby syndrome, which has made it nearly impossible to build new transmission lines, will have

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: analytical philosophy

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Pardon the incursion: It seems to me that philosophy has several special subject matters, such as metaphysics, epistemology, ontology, logic, ethics, and "human nature." No, those are just course classifications. They are not subject matters the way the economy is a subject matter for

RE: Re: Re: analytical philosophy

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Well for many analytical philosophers interested in the philosophy of science it is a type of conceptual analysis. What is a law in science? What is the subject matter of psychology? Mental events? What are they? Happenings in the brain etc..etc. Nothing at all, like phlogiston? What is a

Re: Re: analytical philosophy

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Anyway, I think that philosophers can do everything they ever could; only, they cannot set the bounds to knowledge or presume to dictate to scientists what the scientists may do as far as science goes. --jks ** Better to leave that to the lawyers in the [in]Justice dept., the DEA, the FBI,

RE: reaching out

2000-12-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
John Breaux apologist for cancer alley. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Perelman Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:6182] reaching out Bush is interviewing John Breaux

RE: Re: Question for Lefties, and Left Green Synthesis

2000-12-13 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
This discussion of “what is capitalism?,” it seems to me, has great relevance for any real left-green synthesis. Most of the left is oblivious to the existence of postindustrial productive forces geared to qualitative development, and the fact that capitalism is absolutely incompatible

(no subject)

2000-12-13 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
One of the reason why economics is bombarded by so much worthless research is because people do it simply to climb up the academic ladder rather than because they're genuinely interested in it. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine * Isn't it more accurate to say

WTO 2001

2000-12-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Looks like they won't be heading for a democratic nation anytime soon. Preparations for 2001 WTO Ministerial - Strenghthened Role for WTO Staff Qatar Rejected, Chile Proposes Santiago The WTO Secretariat has rejected the desert kingdom of Qatar for the 2001 Ministerial (see

RE: query

2000-12-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
D.O.P.E. Or look at Thomas Pynchon's stuff for inspiration :-) or even William Burroughs :-) :-) Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Devine Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5930]

Meet professor Cyborg

2000-12-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
[Sandwichman you know this guy??] Professor to wire computer chip into his nervous system Professor Kevin Warwick, surrounded by his robots, holds up a computer chip he plans to have implanted in his nervous system December 7, 2000 Web posted at: 1755 GMT

Re: Re: Re: Catalonia (was Re: Max Weber's Genteel Racism)

2000-12-08 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 13 23:05:24 1999 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Robert Brenner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Louis Proyect" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Where's the Beef? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:07:03 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft

RE: [Fwd: [sixties-l] Fwd: Organizing in the Face of IncreasedRepression]

2000-12-07 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
uh, the buzz words of the 21st century would substitute-- how to --for --we need. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carrol Cox Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:5842] [Fwd:

RE: private property?

2000-12-06 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
At 12:46 PM 12/6/00 -0800, you wrote: Second, I believe, as an empirical matter, that a political-economic system that encourages and defends private property is more conducive to the achievement of individual human happiness than a system to the contrary, especially because the causes of

RE: RE: RE: private property?

2000-12-06 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Let me generally answer the questions as follows. The issue, from my perspective, is not whether property is "private" in the sense you seem to be asking, or whether rather metaphysical notions of freedom and consent can exist under capitalism. Not that those are not important issues,

Marc Weisbrot on AG

2000-12-06 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
full piece at: http://www.commondreams.org/views/120600-104.htm Published on Wednesday, December 6, 2000 This column is distributed by Knight-Ridder/Tribune Media Services Bursting Greenspan's Bubble by Mark Weisbrot Alan Greenspan demonstrated his awesome powers once again on Tuesday, sending

RE: Cyborg variations

2000-12-05 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
that BC weed shouldn't be given to islanders. Ian The image of the cyborg entails a double process of objectification (of social relations) and anthropomorphic animation (of the resulting object). The analysis of this double process is already present in Marx's discussion of the

HAGUE SALVAGE-OP BEGINS

2000-12-04 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
http://www.americanlands.org To: All Activists From: Aaron Rappaport, American Lands Date: December 4, 2000 According to the Reuters article below, it looks like efforts to salvage something from the collapsed Climate Summit in The Hague will begin immediately! What this means for forests

RE: Re: RE: Re: co-ops

2000-12-04 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
A purely acedotal story. There was a really fine coop bookstore in Ann Arbor when I was in grad school in the 80s. It had existed for 15+ years and had never made a late payment. TRhen one day, the banks pulled its credit and it could not but books. The building was later leased by a

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