I read stigliz's article globalism's discontent
He distinguish good side of globalism and dark side of globalism
But this distinction is nonsense.
In capital market, capital forms credifying commodity ,so 1970^90, East Asia
Did not grow ,simply GNP grew, and peoples' life worsened
Global
On 8/9/02 00:50 AM, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben asked about comparisons of Marx/Keynes. I don't know of anybody who
actually intended to make such a comparison, with the exception of Joan
Robinson, who favored Keynes.
Many Marxists wrote about Keynes, offering implicit
On 7/28/02 05:46 AM, ken hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just joking! .
Cheers, Ken Hanly
PS Thanks to Michael for the article.
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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject:
Title: Reply to post-structurist
Reply to John Shotter's Conversational realities
In this book, he proposes constructing life through language.
For this, he adopts rhetorical-responsive version of social constructionalism.
Firstly, he defines psychology as moral science, and secondly, he
A; criticism by Wu Lien
The china-Soviet dispute can be traced back to the 20th convention pf the
CPSU in 1956,but it did not become public untill 1963. The CCP formed a
different view on distribution acording to labor from tha of the CPSU in the
rocess of faction struggle with the CPSU about
On 7/10/02 07:30 AM, Bill Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, July 9, 2002 at 14:26:24 (-0700) Eric Nilsson writes:
Rogoff letterAll,
I'm looking for a short book about Marx's _social_ theory appropriate for
undergraduates.
In the past I've used Berlin's biography, parts of the
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27590] Re: Re: Re: 3 social labor and social production
On 7/5/02 03:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Comrade Melvin
Almost 3
In this time, let argue social labor and social production. *
Marx said
(Translation)
Lets us discuss the question of social
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27663] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help - Abstract labor
On 7/7/02 00:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is not occupied space translatable into mode of expression.?
Products of private producers are converted into commodities as the result of the individual
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27548]social labor and social production
We have difficulty with gaining Staln's article. I have Japanese translation of Stalins's selected works but have not English one. Adding, Deficit of official argument of Stalin exists.
These situation interrupt our study. But I chooses
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27211] Re: For revolutionary factionalism not sectarian lunacy
On 02/6/26 09:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adam Levenstein wrote:
Sounds good, Louis. (Really.)
Here's the million-kopek question: Are we actually going to set up such
an
On 02/6/26 04:35 AM, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim, if you are suggesting that the Amtrack subsidy should go to United
Airlines, I suspect that you will get a friendly hearing from W.
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:06:17PM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
If the U.S. government is
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27126] Re: Re-reply
On 02/6/23 03:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The means of production of which Marx and Engels spoke are in absolute
rebellion against their social character as private property. This
antagonism between socialized production and
Specificity and the politics of the New Period
What is politics? Webster's Dictionary describes politics as the use of
strategy or intrigue in attaining any condition of power or control. It has
been said that politics is the concentrated expression of economics. So,
politics for us in the US
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27091] Re: Re: Re: On tactic of revolution
Comrade Melvin P
Thank you reply my argument
Major difference between you and I is Stalin's argument
My position is thoroughly anti-stalinist.
It became my political experience and theoretical experience.
Stalinist In Japan was
Title: Re: [PEN-L:27068] Re: On tactic of revolution
Thank you your modification.
Title: Critique of Brenner
I read only Brenner' article,So I may
Mistake.
Brenner's argument is always to
Prove capital's crisis, but,it
Seems sterile.
Young Marx tried to prove revolutional period when political crisis happened,
Then he tried to this when in economical panic, in the last he
Marx wrote in Communist manifesto
3. ABOLITION OF ALL RIGHTS OF INHERITANCE ( emphasis added -CB)
And later
Annulment of all the contracts that have alienated public property (banks,
railways, mines, etc.), and the exploitation of all state-owned workshops to
be entrusted to the workers who
Title: Re: [PEN-L:26827] Re: lobal unequal exchange
To Chris Burford
Some quality of commodity is abstracted from before real exchange
This abstraction result from in brain,rather in social process,
This analytical method Marx used is from Hegel's logics
Firstly, concrete labor produce
Marx refer about tax as below in Communist manifest
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Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty
generally
Title: Further study.
Melvin P
Thank you your reply
The Commmodyfing capital seems to be difficult to understand.
So I am now studying radical problem of credit(By YAMAMOY0)
In it he argue new credit system analysis .
You should be confidence in yourself. Your long. painful experience of
Title: Re: [PEN-L:26654] Re: Re: 3 There are not unequal exchange ;critique of Frank
On 2002.06.08 11:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the peculiar mode of operations means new type of capital accumulation. MIYACHI TATSUO
Psychiatric Department
Komaki municipal hosipital
Analysis of contemporary capitalism
In the historical disputes among various Marxist parties,there have been
many problems at issue for the development of capitalism,for example, the
law of capitalist development,the agricultural problems,the theory of
imperialism etc.
Today the development of
Title: Re: [PEN-L:26644] Re: There are not unequal exchange ;critique of Frank
Comrade Melvin P.
Thank you for seeing my article
I my be incorrect
Please tell me your criticim continued
Best regard
MIYACHI TATSUO
9-10.OHTAI,MORIYAMA-KU
NAGOYA CITY
463-0044
JAPAN
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On 2002.06.06 09:49 PM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Burford:
But I wanted to ask whether others agree with the statement above. It
appears self evident if there is mobility of information and transport of
commodities across a market. But in a deeper marxist sense is it consistent
On 2002.06.05 06:06 AM, Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Part of properietors' income is really a quasi-wage, and part of
wage salary at the top is really a quasi-capital payment.
I would say net interest paid (not personal interest received)
and rent belong too.
In debating surplus
On 2002.06.03 05:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael wrote,
In his presidential address to the American Economic Association,
Sherwin Rosen claimed that one of the benefits of the market is
its ability to provide diversity.
Do you suppose Rosen thinks this result
Title: Re: [PEN-L:26525] markets diversity
On 2002.06.03 10:52 PM, Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:
it's interesting (to me, at least), that the ideal market of neoclassical economics -- the perfectly competitive market -- does not allow diversity; diversity
On 2002.06.02 06:56 AM, Hinrich Kuhls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Engels to P. L. Lavrov in London, Nov. 12-17, 1875
1) Of the Darwinian doctrine I accept the theory of evolution, but Darwin's
method of proof (struggle for life, natural selection) I consider only a
first, provisional,
On 2002.05.31 01:25 PM, miyachi tatsuo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2002/05/29 11:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I give thanks to see my article and reply.
We seems to have common conception and it seems to be right. Rather why do
you negate own opinion? We are better than most
Title: Re: [PEN-L:26460] Re: On association
On 2002.05.31 10:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally How is your communism program? If it is vague, simply you argue
communism is good in abstract matter. Please tell me concrete program of
your Communism
Our side are leaded
On 2002.05.28 08:05 AM, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't find the or original post you are responding to. And where does
the Marx quote come from?
Carrol
Sabri Oncu wrote:
reads like Humean instrumentalism to me.
Ian
That should be your expertise so I make
On 2002.05.28 10:33 AM, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
miychi wrote:
Sabri
I want to add Marx's early article. Please read this
Miychi,
This does not come from an article, it comes from the 1844 Mss. which
were never intended for publication, and exhibit a very undeveloped
On 2002.05.28 08:05 AM, Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't find the or original post you are responding to. And where does
the Marx quote come from?
Carrol
Sabri Oncu wrote:
reads like Humean instrumentalism to me.
Ian
That should be your expertise so I make
On 2002.05.29 03:18 AM, Diane Monaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seigniorage earnings at the expense of independent unemployment/inflation
goals? I don't think so.
Diane
May 25, 2002
New model for common currency
Jacqueline Thorpe
Financial Post
Economist suggests central banks
On 2002.05.26 01:47 PM, Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric writes:
In fact, the jury is out as to whether (first degree)
price discrimination is really possible on the Internet.
It would be easy for customers to foil attempts to target
them for higher prices by eliminating
On 2002.05.25 01:41 PM, Anthony D'Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think it is economic deprivation that is the cause of the Kashmir
problem per se. As an Indian citizen I am not allowed to own land in
Kashmir, meaning the rest of India subsidized Kashmir (and I suppose Jammu)
so as
In capitalist society, payment to workers depends on exchange values of
commodities which he produces. ON the contrary, in socialist society,
payment to workers depend on labor-time not considering produced quantity.
In past communist or socialist countries , payment according to
labor-time
On 2002.05.26 08:06 AM, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I see only two possibilities for eliminating war. First one would be a
dictatorship of capital in which some all-powerful state controls
everything. That arrangement would eliminate wars between states (since
there was no
On 2002.05.24 07:07 AM, Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ian writes:
If knowledge is power which it is, then the
whole point of the firm is to make sure that
prices don't go to marginal costs. Knowledge
can't be free in physical sense, how could it
be so in a price theory sense?
I
Sabri
I want to add Marx's early article. Please read this
The natural sciences have developed an enormous activity and have
accumulated an ever-growing mass of material. Philosophy, however, has
remained just as alien to them as they remain to philosophy. Their momentary
unity was only a
On 2002.05.25 08:29 AM, Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Louis,
While I am very sympathetic to your point of view in this regard, I
would say there is - going by past experience - no guarantee that
socialism would necessarily mean an end to war, unless you mean by
socialism an
On 2002.05.25 00:30 AM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(On the Internet and at left-academic conferences, there is endless
discussion of the feasibility or non-feasibility of socialism based on
criteria having to do with economic efficiency, the imperative to avoid
grand narratives,
On 2002.05.23 05:16 AM, Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This may be a stupid question, but does anyone of the esteemed
economists on the list know where I would find a systematic and
rigorous analysis of information as a commodity ? I just read
Michael Perelman's book about class
On 2002.05.22 09:05 PM, "Louis Proyect" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you hear Marx tittering in Highgate?
If only socialists had studied Marx properly, they would have known all
along that capitalism would triumph. Meghnad Desai gets behind the slogans
in Marx's Revenge
Faisal Islam
On 2002.05.20 11:14 AM, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I believe that James Duesenberry once suggested that the war in Vietnam
would have a positive effect on Vietnam's economic growth because it
sped up urbanization. Is this true? If it is, can anyone give me a
citation?
DRAFT OF PROGRAM OF SOCIAL MOVEMENT IN 21C
Usual programs of cummunist asumme that social revolution begins only after
proletariat take over political power in common. So program is party’s
program, and its content is political monism, but we can no longer organize
current social
There are lot of argument on fascism now,
But, in current international credit system, the term fascism seems to be
inadequate.
In 1930', there were strong but union-dependent social democrat and
communist party. And on the other hand strong united financial capital
existed in Europe and US.
For
Below is a proposal of our small group, red report, 1985
With the overall development of the credit system, the present modes of
accumulation of the financial capital become quite different from what
Hilferding and Lenin made an analysis. This change can, first of all, be
seen in
On 2002.05.12 05:17 AM, "Devine, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[was: RE: [PEN-L:25860] Re: RE: Rebel without a clue]
Louis writes: ...discussion around "A Beautiful Mind" which received the
Best Movie award right around the time I was reading "Madness on the Couch"
by Edward Dolnick. This
On 2002.05.11 02:08 AM, "Devine, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Interestingly, the ECONOMIST doesn't mention the role of the over 4%
average annual increase in the nominal major-currencies trade-weighted value
of the dollar -- or over 5% in real terms -- during the period 1996 to 2001.
This
Abolition of money and socialist revolution
( Below is insufficient for analyzing secrets of commodity itself, so I will
post in next article on fetishism of commodity)
There are not a few discussions about abolition of money or capitalist mode
of production; as for money, it is caused from its
Marx’s critique of the fetishism
In Theory Psychology, Volume 9, Number 3 June 1999, the commodity
fetishism, the ideology, the false consciousness, and the theory of need are
separately argued. But these categories have a common cause and an inner
connection. I
Abolition of money and socialist revolution
( Below is insufficient for analyzing secrets of commodity itself, so I will
post in next article on fetishism of commodity)
There are not a few discussions about abolition of money or capitalist mode
of production; as for money, it is caused from its
On 2002.04.24 09:25 PM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Schofield:
in the revolutionary left. When the revolutionary left refused
to be reined in, they shot its leaders like Andres Nin. People in Spain
were willing to risk their lives for economic as well as political
democracy.
On 2002.05.01 10:55 PM, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Miyachi:
According to changing mode of capital accumulation, mass consciousness also
changed. People feel themselves to belong to nation -state rather to belong
to direct capital's power.
Miyachi, I doubt that you can detect
Below is the article written by my small group(sekiho=red report) before
USSR was collapsed, but I think this article still has meaning because most
of Marxist lack correct analysis of commodity(including such as Lucac,
Jameson, Zizec, Negli etc) so total grasp of current credit capitalism
remains
On 2002.04.25 03:00 AM, "Charles Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
dem. cent. Venezuela
by Devine, James
23 April 2002 21:06 UTC
... Explaining why I described the idea of "democratic centralism" as coming
from the "Marxist" tradition rather than from "Leninism," I wrote: It's
from
On 2002.04.17 08:34 AM, Romain Kroes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not at all, Chris. Exchange value of currencies does not belong to any
Marxist theory, as Marx believed in a gold currency for ever.
Actually, exchange value of currencies depends on the sign of the balances
of trade, with a
On 2002.04.18 08:58 AM, Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 16/04/02 23:50 +0100, you wrote:
The organic composition of capital is the measure of the exchange value of
currencies.
Is this a correct application of marxism?
Chris Burford
I appreciate the discussion. But I am
On 2002/04/16 11:02 PM, Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
by miychi
15 April 2002 21:34 UTC
1.Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
Charles: As Lenin was a dialectician, we can be sure that these opposites
On 2002.04.17 07:20 AM, Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Miyachi wrote:
Thank you for your reply
As for decentralized responsibility, party cell duty is
regular report to central committee and maintain party's
program. If he has not ability to this duty, simply he must
give up, or
On 2002.04.16 07:28 AM, Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:11 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:24950] Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
Miyachi wrote:
From the
On 2002.04.16 06:24 AM, Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In leftist theory, democratic centralism refers to the organization of the
revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's
membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on members
of that
On 2002.04.17 02:30 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
G'day Charles,
Sorry, Rob, Leninist democratic centralism is alive and well in
Venezuela , where all power resides with the masses and their elected
representatives in the CENTER ! Viva Bolivarian Bolshevism !
Analysis of contemporary capitalism
In the historical disputes among various Marxist parties,there have been
many problems at issue for the development of capitalism,for example, the
law of capitalist development,the agricultural problems,the theory of
imperialism etc.
Today the development of
1.Binary scheme of democracy and centralism
a correct reading of Lenin’s work makes clear that Lenin never made a
binary scheme of democracy and centralism. Lenin speaks about centralization
of leadership by the party, decentralization of responsibility to the local
sections, and
On arguing "bureaucracy", important question is what is the aim of
"bureaucracy" system
Weber did not refer to aim of bureaucracy, rather simply analyzed inner
structure of bureaucracy system. In capitalist working place workers are
organized to hierarchical order in order to produce more surplus
Bureaucracy
by Devine, James
04 April 2002 17:22 UTC
Charles Brown wrote:Isn't bureaucracy a Weberian and not Marxist
concept ? ...
I wrote: The issue is not whether it's a Marxist concept in the sense of
whether Marx talked about it as much as whether it fits with Marx's
materialist
On 2002.04.03 08:13 AM, Seyed Javad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is terror? What is terrorism? Who is a terrorist? These and many such
questions have been in one
Clausewitz define that war is continuance of politics. If so, in may be
possible to say that terrorism is continuance of war.
In
On 2002/03/28 11:55 PM, "Charles Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
the state
by Carrol Cox
27 March 2002 23:02 UTC
This would fit in with Wood's argument (in _Democracy against
Capitalism_) that capitalism artificially divided the political into the
two separate realms of "the
Young Marx defined his work as show the world why it is strugging He
denied any dogmatism or philosophy and reform of consciousness consist
entirely in making the world aware.
So his later work tried to show the world why it is struggling and reform of
consciousness in making the world aware. His
On 2002.03.22 03:12 AM, Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope any relatives of sufferers will take cheer
rather than offence in my passing on that the motto
of the Irish Alzheimer's Disease Society is:
Remember those who can't.
dd
Thanks for this. I was feeling bad for starting
Title: Difference on evidence of deheimnisvolle der Warenform in first edition and fourth edition of Capital
On 2002.03.22 00:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 3/21/2002 6:42:04 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've always liked this
On 2002.03.20 01:54 AM, Veneziani,R (pgr) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following a thread of discussion on Roemer's theory of exploitation. In reply
to G. Skillman's comments (PEN-L, 11-3, 20:44).
Let us start with the points of agreement:
1) Differential Ownership of Productive Assets
On 2002.03.21 00:51 AM, Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the key differences -- perhaps _the_ key difference at the end of the
day -- between Roemer and Marx concerns the means of subsistence. On the one
hand, Roemer emphasizes DOPA, which basically means that a minority of the
On 2002.03.20 11:54 PM, Veneziani,R (pgr) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I SAID: Let us start with the points of agreement:
1) Differential Ownership of Productive Assets (DOPA) is certainly necessary
to
have exploitation, at least in Roemer's model. (And I say it in my paper.)
^^
On 2002.03.20 10:24 PM, "Drewk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please feel free to circulate this announcement
Just Published in Italian, English, and Spanish:
UN VECCHIO FALSO PROBLEMA: La trasformazione dei valori in prezzi
nel Capitale di
Your response was read over the course of several days. I agree with its
principles. Specifically, you state:
Thus Marx again and again emphasizes that class relation is presupposed
from the moment the two face each other as buyer and seller. Marx said that
one who see capitalist characteristic
On 2002.03.14 08:53 PM, "Tahir Wood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2002.03.14 01:26 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this, Roemer remains in the sphere of ownership, and forgets the sphere
of production. For producing profits material production must be presumed.
And for
On 2002.03.14 01:26 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this, Roemer remains in the sphere of ownership, and forgets the sphere
of production. For producing profits material production must be presumed.
And for production, many firms must interact with each other and exchange
On 2002.03.13 06:41 AM, "Gil Skillman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles, thanks for your post. It is entirely appropriate to demand care
in definition and usage of terms, especially in these first steps.
Regarding your discussion below, are you saying that because one necessary
condition
On 2002.03.14 02:32 AM, Rakesh Bhandari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew writes:
A physical surplus and the physical surplus mean exactly the
same thing in this context.
ok
I do not deny, but affirm that with rising productivity there is
indeed some rough sense in which we can say
MIYACHI TATSUO
9-10, OHATI, MORIYAMA-KU
NAGOYA CITY
463-0044
JAPAN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
criticism of Roemer
I don’t konw details of Roemer’s argument. I only read his article
“ Anti-Hayekian manifesto” in “ New Left Review 211/1995) . But
fundamental thought of
Comrade Waistline
Thank you your reply
I will carefully consider your comments and my inaccurate grasp you point
out.
Please give me some times to respond your comment.
Thank you again.
I think that Roemer's limit is about money. He don't refer to abolish
money.
In " Critique of the Gotha programme" Marx point out that in socialist
society exchange through money not exist.
MIYACHI TATSUO
9-10.OHTAI,MORIYAMA-KU
NAGOYA CITY
463-0044
JAPAN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Comrade
There are
Comrade
There are many debate about market socialism, economic characater of
cuba,evaluation of Roemer,etc.
We(BUND a faction of new left)already defined current world as "
Transitional world which included to define existing "socialist,or communist
contry as transitional contry toward
On 2002.03.02 08:11 AM, Greg Schofield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is not a reply to anyone in particular -
Productive Forces --- P = (M + L) - R
Productive Potential = Means of Production plus Living Labour minus the
Relations of Production
Of course you need to divide the product
On 2002.03.02 02:07 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MIYACHI TATSUO wrote,
In capitalist society that anyone can't argue "Productive forces must
produce "what people want" Instead, capital produce in its own for
profit,not in order to human needs.
My point was that
On 2002.03.02 08:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MIYACHI TATSUO wrote,
Certainly for production, we presume people's needs. But characteristic in
capitalist production is that in turn commodities product more people's
need, not vice versa. In other words, we are ruled by
On 2002.03.02 05:47 AM, Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[was: RE: [PEN-L:23348] Re: RE: Question to Various comments in In Digest
77]
Michael Perelman writes:
Marx's idea of social forces may be grounded more in common sense than in
some deep theory. One other factors that I see
On 2002.03.02 01:25 AM, Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Productive Forces
Another thing that might be said about the interpenetration of physics'
forces, work, power and energy, and the forces of production of a mode of
production is regarding the role of physics' force in the the
On 2002.03.01 10:54 PM, "Hari Kumar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A number of comments discuss the fact the the societal values placed
upon 'productive forces' varies and thus there is no single barometer of
that, as put by Eric here:
"Productive forces must produce "what people want." And what
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