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2001-05-11 Thread Brad DeLong
RE Brad's It is a perfect illustration of how monopolistically competitive markets with entry do not produce anything like the social optimum... It is also a clear example of how firms, seeking to make profits, shape market structure: market structure is often endogenously determined

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2001-05-03 Thread Brown, Martin (NCI)
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:11140] Re: RE: Re: Re: brad de long textbook Jim wrote, After all, it's the sovereign consumers who decide what sucks and what doesn't suck. But remember one of the key characteristics

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2001-05-03 Thread Eric Nilsson
RE Brad's It is a perfect illustration of how monopolistically competitive markets with entry do not produce anything like the social optimum... It is also a clear example of how firms, seeking to make profits, shape market structure: market structure is often endogenously determined by

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2001-05-03 Thread Jim Devine
Someone asked if the monopolistic competition theory was going to appear in Brad's text. I would guess not, since it's a macro textbook and MC is seen as a micro topic. But it should appear, since it is the normal form of markets (except for the bits about equilibrium and the common assumption

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2001-05-03 Thread Eric Nilsson
Brad wrote: If you wished (although God knows why you would) to portray your actions as a gamble by a flinty-eyed amoral profit-maximizing academic careerist, you could say that: Okay, Okay -- you saw right through me. But you missed one key aspect of my free (sic) text: while I will not

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2001-05-03 Thread Brad DeLong
On Wednesday, May 2, 2001 at 21:20:47 (-0700) Brad DeLong writes: Is there something specific about software that makes the open-source management problem particularly easy? Or can we look forward to the development of similar collective

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2001-05-03 Thread Brown, Martin (NCI)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:11179] Re: Re: Re: brad de long textbook On Wednesday, May 2, 2001 at 21:20:47 (-0700) Brad DeLong writes: Is there something specific about

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2001-05-02 Thread Brad DeLong
Jim wrote, After all, it's the sovereign consumers who decide what sucks and what doesn't suck. But remember one of the key characteristics of the textbook market--the ultimate user (the student) does not pick the book. The professor does (and most often the professor does not have

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2001-05-02 Thread Brad DeLong
Title: Microeconomics: The Quest for Profits, the Use of Power, and the Social Good Level: Principles of Microeconomics Cost: ZERO -- downloadable free from the Internet as Adobe Acrobat files (professionally formatted to look pretty). Or, for the cost of shipping ($3?), available on a CD.

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2001-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
The open source aspect of it is especially interesting. It has proven very possible to design and maintain excellent computer programs with a small charismatic core directing and assessing the voluntary contributions of a floating horde of part-time contributors. Even though the gift

Re: Re: Re: brad de long textbook

2001-05-02 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:35 PM Subject: [PEN-L:11141] Re: Re: brad de long textbook The consumer is the instructor. Mankiw's text is like cotton candy. It gives the student the feeling that the

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2001-05-01 Thread Brad DeLong
Brad, when is this puppy coming out? max October...

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2001-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:11 AM Subject: [PEN-L:11032] Re: RE: Re: brad de long textbook Brad, when is this puppy coming out? max October... = Will it be competitively priced vis a vis

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2001-05-01 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:14 PM 5/1/01 -0700, you wrote: Plug I too have a textbook coming out in September or October. (Or maybe later depending on what I do this summer: so may obligations; so little time). I had previously thought I'd have it done by now but Oh, and I did not get $1 million advance ...

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2001-05-01 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: BTW, I don't know about publishing advances (never having received one). I've heard that it doesn't come in a lump sum, that there are all sorts of restrictions, and (maybe) that a lot of the publishing costs are paid for out of the advance. Typically you get an advance in

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2001-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
[Mankiw's] book sucks, but it was successful,the publishers tell me. that means that according to the objective market test that we're all supposed to be forced to take (in this Brave NeoLiberal World of ours), it _doesn't_ suck. After all, it's the sovereign consumers who decide what

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2001-05-01 Thread Eric Nilsson
Jim wrote, After all, it's the sovereign consumers who decide what sucks and what doesn't suck. But remember one of the key characteristics of the textbook market--the ultimate user (the student) does not pick the book. The professor does (and most often the professor does not have

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2001-05-01 Thread Brad DeLong
And I'm sure he is donating all his advance and royalties back to UC to underwrite scholarships for low income and minority students, matching in action, his rhetoric to others about thier moral obligations to California society. Learn to spell their.

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2001-05-01 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:28 PM 5/1/01 -0700, you wrote: Jim wrote, After all, it's the sovereign consumers who decide what sucks and what doesn't suck. Eric writes (as does Michael Perelman): But remember one of the key characteristics of the textbook market--the ultimate user (the student) does not pick the

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2001-05-01 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:37 PM 5/1/01 -0700, you wrote: And I'm sure he is donating all his advance and royalties back to UC to underwrite scholarships for low income and minority students, matching in action, his rhetoric to others about thier moral obligations to California society. Learn to spell their.

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2001-05-01 Thread Ian Murray
Learn to spell their. somewhere I saw an instruction manual about how to start flame wars on the Internet. One of the points was to correct everyone's spelling. Since many people don't have spell-checkers on their e-mail programs and because spelling standards are especially low in

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2001-05-01 Thread Brown, Martin (NCI)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:11053] Re: RE: Re: brad de long textbook And I'm sure he is donating all his advance and royalties back to UC to underwrite scholarships for low income and minority students, matching in action, his rhetoric to others about thier moral obligations to California

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2001-05-01 Thread Colin Danby
Congratulations to Eric for doing this and I hope more people follow. This material should be free. Look at, say, one of Kindleberger's textbooks from 30 years back. You get excellent, clearly-written, _text_: sentences, paragraphs, sections, and chapters meant to be read like a real book, not

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2001-05-01 Thread jdevine
Colin writes: We need an evolving collection of freeware books, chapters, exercises, problem sets, handouts, examples, interactive tutorials, and whatnot -- enough so that you could put on a decent intro course without making students buy anything. Then let publishers turn their efforts to

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2001-05-01 Thread Michael Perelman
The colors in the books are very important. A student who aims for a C just has to read the red stuff; for a B, the student has to read the blue stuff also; but for an A black print is also important. On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 05:41:32PM -0700, Colin Danby wrote: Congratulations to Eric for

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2001-04-29 Thread Brad DeLong
For fiscal you should have shown a big truck labeled neoliberalism running the turtle over in the middle of the screen. mbs You have a better way to teach people the relative lags involved in automatic stabilizers, monetary policy, and discretionary fiscal policy? :-) Brad DeLong Shme on

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2001-04-26 Thread Brad DeLong
I can't wait for the video game version, with the cheetah, rabbit, and snail racing across the screen. mbs You have a better way to teach people the relative lags involved in automatic stabilizers, monetary policy, and discretionary fiscal policy? :-) Brad DeLong

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2001-04-26 Thread Max Sawicky
For fiscal you should have shown a big truck labeled neoliberalism running the turtle over in the middle of the screen. mbs You have a better way to teach people the relative lags involved in automatic stabilizers, monetary policy, and discretionary fiscal policy? :-) Brad DeLong