RE: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-11 Thread Nicole Seibert
: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) I agree with Yoshie here, and I d o not think that you believe what you say. Do you find it hard to pass judgment on Henry Kissinger or George W. Bush? --jks

RE: Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-11 Thread Nicole Seibert
that have worked on this type of topic before? -Nico -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Dorman Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes

RE: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-08 Thread Nicole Seibert
So, how did feminism start? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yoshie Furuhashi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[PEN-L:1394] Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread Nicole Seibert
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) I was a professional philosopher of

Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
(How degrading - naïve relativism, sounds harsh. Anyway, you answered that question yourself with Hume. Realizing that it is all relative does not preclude the fact that we must walk out of our front doors or wear clothes. Understanding that this is relative however makes passing judgment

Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
I agree with Yoshie here, and I d o not think that you believe what you say. Do you find it hard to pass judgment on Henry Kissinger or George W. Bush? --jks Understanding that this is relative however makes passing judgment almost impossible. And I am not talking about the judgment of

Re: Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread Peter Dorman
Am I right in locating the core error in pomoism (as currently defended) in its assumption that claims are either "true" or "unjudgeable opinions"? Such a view excludes the possibility of criteria that would pass judgment on claims even in the absence of any knowledge that they are truly "true".

Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
I wasn't picking on Nicole, who is after all a student, but on supposedly professional scholars in the pomo mode whose analysis is no better. I except some of the big shots: Derrida, Foucault, DeLeuze, Rorty, etc., are quite sophisticated. Lytoard, however, is not. --jks In a message dated

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread Nicole Seibert
This is what I meant, Doug, when I said that pomoisma encourages bad epistemology and metaphysics that districts everyone from debating important substantive issues while failing to advance epistemological or metaphysical discussion. And where you are wrong J is that you think academia and the

Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Justin, But what is the point of engaging in this exercise? I enjoy an epistemological dustup as well as any and better than most ... But at the level at which the present discussion is carried on, the game is not worth the candle. It's a distraction. I don't agree with this, mate. Sure,

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread Nicole Seibert
Hi Rob ( Doug), I answered part of your note (with quotes from Doug) below: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Schaap Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Being serious about

Re: RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread Carrol Cox
Nicole Seibert wrote: The problem with acting like we know it all is that people then think we know it all. Nicole, statements like this just make conversation impossible. No in the history of the world (except possibly Duhring and Wagner) has even pretended to "Know it All" -- and if you

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) II

2000-09-05 Thread Nicole Seibert
Hi Rob - I agree with your assessment of the middle part I wrote here. I have to think more about what I am trying to say. Q: Besides Foucault do any other pomo theorist discuss power relationships? None right? Baudrillard maybe, but generally in a kind-of snide anti-powerful way. Thinking

RE: RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread Nicole Seibert
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) Nicole Seibert wrote: The problem with acting like we k