ambitions sketched out here can seek their objectives. Or to put it another
way: the great majority of the American people are not nearly as militarist,
imperialist or aggressive as their German equivalents in 1914; but most
German people in 1914 would at least have been able to find France on a
The younger intelligentsia meanwhile has also been stripped of any real
knowledge of the outside world by academic neglect of history and regional
studies in favour of disciplines which are often no more than a crass
projection of American assumptions and prejudices (Rational Choice Theory is
the
Louis Proyect wrote:
Right. Our intelligentsia: Christopher Hitchens, Marc Cooper,
Michael Berube, George Packer and all the others who would have been
writing articles in 1914 had they been alive in favor of stopping
the Hun.
Marc Cooper wrote this in the LA Weekly for August 16-20:
And
At 01:11 PM 9/24/2002 -0400, you wrote:
Louis Proyect wrote:
Right. Our intelligentsia: Christopher Hitchens, Marc Cooper, Michael
Berube, George Packer and all the others who would have been writing
articles in 1914 had they been alive in favor of stopping the Hun.
Marc Cooper wrote this in
I don't think that we need to debate Cooper here. I only wished that more
people would oppose this war, which seems to combine silliness, crude
politics, and brutality in an unprecedented way.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:18:39PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
At 01:11 PM 9/24/2002 -0400, you
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30509] Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux
I don't think that we need to debate Cooper here. I only
wished that more
people would oppose this war, which seems to combine silliness, crude
politics, and brutality in an unprecedented way.
right. If our goal
Doug Henwood wrote:
Louis Proyect wrote:
Right. Our intelligentsia: Christopher Hitchens, Marc Cooper,
Michael Berube, George Packer and all the others who would have been
writing articles in 1914 had they been alive in favor of stopping
the Hun.
Marc Cooper wrote this in the LA
Michael Perelman wrote:
I don't think that we need to debate Cooper here.
Since when is correcting the record a form of debate? Is this a
general PEN-L principle, or does it apply only to certain
personalities?
Doug
I had no objection to your correcting the record. In fact, I found it
welcome. I thought Ravi did a service in reviewing Cooper's mixed record.
But I think that it is a mistake to emphasize personalities -- Cooper or
otherwise.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:42:06PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
Jim Devine:
right. If our goal is to fight Dubya's war against Iraq, it's wrong to be
too conscious of some author's checkered past. During the Vietnam war, for
example, it would have been a mistake to exclude someone from the movement
because he or she supported the US in Korea or some other
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30514] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux
I wrote:right. [agreeing that personalities are secondary] If our goal is to fight Dubya's war against Iraq, it's wrong to be too conscious of some author's checkered past. During the Vietnam war, for example, it would
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