Carrol wrote:
How much money do the TV networks, the advertisers, and
the makers of the products advertised make off of
them.
Which is why I say we boycott baseball. (What a stupid waste of money,
anyway. They ain't neighborhood heroes anymore.)
In terms of another sport, hockey, I agree with
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Subject: Re: moneyball
I don't follow baseball, though I did when I was young -- I dreamed
(unrealistically) of becoming good enough to
But I recall that Ricky Henderson was great at having an excellent season
right before contract time. Is he still playing ball?
--
Michael Perelman
Denise wrote:
Rickey Henderson is playing left field for the
Newark, New Jersey, Bears, a minor league team
that is unaffiliated with any major league team.
Good for him. (If that is true.)
Rickey was the most Satchel of all the other Paiges in the book of
baseball.
Ken.
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And it's
Title: RE: [PEN-L] moneyball
Which is why I say we boycott baseball.
there was a movement awhile back to shun major league baseball, but to go to minor-league games.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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Very interesting.
I recall (and this is all from memory, so forgive errors on exact stats)
the most interesting financial conclusion James came to was about trade
value -- and how lesser lights in the front office were continually
taken on the market.
In particular, statistical analysis of the
Sorry Michael --
I wrote too fast in this second last paragraph:
James also did another form of that study, showing
performance value based on when a player got the
big contract. It might be related to the age study,
maybe not. Applies a lot more to pitchers, who are
more age resistant.
I
I don't follow baseball, though I did when I was young -- I dreamed
(unrealistically) of becoming good enough to
But I recall that Ricky Henderson was great at having an excellent season
right before contract time. Is he still playing ball?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
Title: RE: [PEN-L] moneyball
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I don't follow baseball, though I did when I was young -- I dreamed
(unrealistically) of becoming good enough to
Michael, did you know Fidel when he tried out for the
I don't see what the athletic competence of baseball players has to do
with the value of their labor power. How much money do the TV networks,
the advertisers, and the makers of the products advertised make off of
them. Besides, I believe a huge proportion of mlb players are only in
the majors
He tried out for the senators, I believe.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:00:00PM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't follow baseball, though I did when I was young -- I dreamed
(unrealistically) of becoming good
He was talking about the relative competence among baseball players.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:15:52PM -0500, Carrol Cox wrote:
I don't see what the athletic competence of baseball players has to do
with the value of their labor power. How much money do the TV networks,
the advertisers, and
Marc Lavoie at U. of Ottawa has written on sports in Canada, some of it
on discrimination against French-Canadians. A friend of mine from the
New School did his dissertation on political economy of baseball under
the late David M. Gordon's supervision. A U Mass grad student also did a
political
Title: RE: [PEN-L] moneyball
Andy Zimbalist has a book or two:
Baseball and billions : a probing look inside the big business of our national pastime (1994)
Sports, jobs, and taxes : the economic impact of sports teams and stadiums (1997)
Unpaid professionals : commercialism and
He was a finalist to be our dean a few years ago.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:04:05PM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
Andy Zimbalist has a book or two:
Baseball and billions : a probing look inside the big business of our
national pastime (1994)
Sports, jobs, and taxes : the economic impact of
There are lots of articles about discrimiantion in pro. sports in the US.
It appears that pay for superstars is color blind; for benchwarmers,
whites earn a premium, especially in basketball where they are visible to
the crowd.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:38:34PM -0500, Forstater, Mathew wrote:
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