Hi Joanna,
Thanks for your great comment. Did you know that Eddie Grant's track gimme
hope Joanna was banned by the BBC during the Gulf War as unsuitable ?
(Eddie had also penned a song about the Brixton riots in London in 1981,
called Electric Avenue).
You wrote:
More than that: Orwell gave
Jurriaan writes:
I guess I was being a little facetious. At the risk of inciting boredom, as
you know, Goldstein was modelled on Leon Trotsky, and Orwell himself
basically had this idea that, although Trotsky was vastly preferable to Big
Brother Stalin, he was in a sense tainted with the same
Hi Jim,
I wrote:
in part it refers possibly also to the ability for metaphorical
communication, which constructs at least two layers of meaning which are
systematically linked, such that a lie is used to convey the truth).
I should have added that the truth could also be used to convey a lie
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Traditionally, the working class tends to read a book to find out
something new or be entertained by something new, the purpose is practical,
and to deliberately read something you already knew anyway, would either
attest to a closed mind, stupidity, or to a subtle
Jurriaan writes:
A great deal of discussion has gone into whether Orwell was politically
correct or not, but Orwell in a sense anticipates all this already (being
knowledgeable about Stalinist and bourgeois culture), and the idiocies
involved, and takes the view of well, a plague on all your
Devine, James wrote:
and In the feminised, postmodernised, sexualised world of today,
why is the world feminized? to the extent that it is, it's only in the rich
countries of the Northern hemisphere (excluding Japan).
Oh, I don't know. Do you remember that photo in the Guardian (the u.s.
Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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O'Brien's five finger test in Orwell's 1984
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Traditionally, the working class tends to read a book to find out
I wrote:
why is the world feminized? to the extent that it is,
it's only in the rich countries of the Northern hemisphere
(excluding Japan).
Carrol:
Oh, I don't know. Do you remember that photo in the Guardian (the u.s.
radical paper) with a caption, a woman's work is never
done. The
in the end, however, his hopelessness -- encouraged by his terminal
ill-health -- led him to fink to the British Big Brother, naming names of
possible Soviet spies. He thus chose a camp. (Unlike many on the left,
however, I do not see this as discrediting his writings.)
To reject his writings on
Jurriaan writes:
A great deal of discussion has gone into whether Orwell was politically
correct or not, but Orwell in a sense anticipates all this already (being
knowledgeable about Stalinist and bourgeois culture), and the idiocies involved,
and takes the view of well, a plague on all your
Hi Joanna,
Now, tell me everybody, why do we have to make excuses for writing
fiction? In terms
of raising or changing consciousness, it is unbeatable.
Not unbeatable, but powerful, in the sense that it provides means of
reframing which breaks out of seemingly irresolvable political, economic
I guess I was being a little facetious. At the risk of inciting boredom, as
you know, Goldstein was modelled on Leon Trotsky, and Orwell himself
basically had this idea that, although Trotsky was vastly preferable to Big
Brother Stalin, he was in a sense tainted with the same brush. This is
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
The question could be raised, why would Orwell as political analyst resort
to fiction to make his socialist political viewpoint clear ? Apparently,
because he felt that the truth resided only in the heresies, and that there
was no possibility of rationally debating with
Title: Re: [PEN-L:35400] Re: War test
The last figure I think I saw was 43, mostly (37?) from friendly fire.
Joel Blau
Dan Scanlan wrote:
The answer to question
17 is incorrect.
Actually there were a number of casualties
inflicted by the Iraqi
military---although some
Right, but aren't 100,000 or so on disability from other damage created by
the war.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:12:02PM -0500, Joel Blau wrote:
The last figure I think I saw was 43, mostly (37?) from friendly fire.
Joel Blau
Dan Scanlan wrote:
The answer to question 17 is incorrect.
Sure. It's rather like totalling up the military budget without including
the health care and other costs of the Veterans' Administration.
Joel Blau
Michael Perelman wrote:
Right, but aren't 100,000 or so on disability from other damage created bythe war.On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:12:02PM
: [PEN-L:35419] Re: Re: Re: Re: War test
Right, but aren't 100,000 or so on disability from other damage created by
the war.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:12:02PM -0500, Joel Blau wrote:
The last figure I think I saw was 43, mostly (37?) from friendly fire.
Joel Blau
Dan Scanlan wrote
Friends,
The War IQ test I sent out a few days ago listed as 0 the number of
American soldiers killed by Iraqis in the first Gulf War. Several
recipients of that email as well as my own Google searches have found
many different numbers for that toll, none of them 0. Also, the test
Title: War test
Take the War on Iraq IQ
Test
Do you know enough to justify going to war with
Iraq?
1. Q: What percentage of the world's
population does the U.S. have? A: 6%
2. Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the U.S. have? A:
50%
3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves
Title: War test
The answer to question 17 is
incorrect.
Actually there were a number of casualties inflicted by the
Iraqimilitary---although some of those listed below may be the result of
friendlyfire certainly not all were... there were not 0 casualties inflicted
bythem.This site also
Title: Re: [PEN-L:35400] Re: War test
The answer to question 17
is incorrect.
Actually there were a number of
casualties inflicted by the Iraqi
military---although some of those listed below may be the result of
friendly
fire certainly not all were... there were not 0 casualties inflicted
test
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-- Pat Sauer
We might have to make some kind of modification for professional athletes
They don't usually do the same sort of damage as a Warren Anderson.
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 12:05:20PM -0700, Dan Scanlan wrote:
True justice in a democratic society can only be measured by the
number of
Davies, Daniel wrote:
Bonus points if you can work in a few words on how the
URPE had it coming.
Usage note: it's URPE, sans definite article. Kind of like the way
DC-heads say Justice and Treasury and CBO.
Doug
So remind me, what is URPE, said she, the non-econ.
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Davies, Daniel wrote:
Bonus points if you can
pms wrote:
So remind me, what is URPE, said she, the non-econ.
The Union for Radical Political Economics http://www.urpe.org
(which just wasn't working), founded way back when. It publishes a
journal, the Review of RPE. Its annual summer conference is a
dizzying trip for mind and libido.
Yo Eco-freaks. Am I here yet?
smooches
Paula
Yo Eco-freaks. Am I here yet?
smooches
Paula
Yes. Welcome to the land of thousand word essays on value theory. My
advice would be to start off uncontroversially by expressing a strong view
on what Marx really meant by production and saying something nasty about
market socialism. Bonus
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Yo Eco-freaks. Am I here yet?
smooches
Paula
Yes. Welcome to the land of thousand word essays on value theory. My
advice would be to start off uncontroversially by expressing
What group of people is the pollster describing in the following quote? People want
nothing short of revenge, blood, more of it, one ... pollster explained. And under
these conditions, the ones who give them blood are the ones they will give their
support.
A. U.S. citizens, referring to their
I posted:
What group of people is the pollster describing in the following quote?
People want nothing short of revenge, blood, more of it, one ... pollster
explained. And under these conditions, the ones who give them blood are the
ones they will give their support.
A. U.S. citizens, referring
test ignore
generator?
Sabri
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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:45 PM
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We see the same intolerance of dissent, the same mad global ambitions
We see the same intolerance of dissent, the same mad global ambitions, the
same brutal determination to control everyday life, and all of life. --
Pres.-select George W. Bush
to whom is Dubya referring?
a) Attorney General John Ashcroft's inner circle.
b) Jerry Falwell Pat Robertson.
c) the
or a few after
the WTC/P tragedies.
From the Sept. 18th Minneapolis Star Tribune:
Welcome security tests
The Sept. 15 article Northwest says it will fire workers who test security
made me fume. Excuse me, but if the employees of an airline company
don't test the system, who will? Perhaps CEO
This was sent to test my subscription to the list. I have been having some
peculiar issues which this test will hopefully clear up.
thanks,
Doyle
of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which
bans testing of nuclear weapons and was rejected by the Senate in 1999, on
the grounds that it is not verifiable or enforceable. The president supports
an informal moratorium on testing that was initiated in 1992 by his father.
Testing is not a near-term issue
test ignore
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Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:44 AM
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Subject: [PEN-L:15850] Garbage Deregulation
The city of Chico just deregulated its garbage
industry, throwing everything into chaos for the
The Observer (London)
Sunday April 15, 2001
Necessity test is mother of GATS intervention
by Gregory Palast
The World Trade Organisation has plans to replace that outmoded
political idea: democracy
Trade Minister Dick Caborn says 'nothing' all day, and this keeps him
very, very
is present in efficiency-based
decision making. Each possible legal solution points to a different efficient
outcome, and 'there is no independent test by which the law's solution can be said to
be THE efficient solution' [Warren Samuels]." ["Economics and the Law", Nicholas
Mercuro and St
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"Because efficiency is a function of rights, and not the other way around,
it is
circular to maintain that efficiency alone can determine righ
Ken Hanly wrote:
5) Two machines both cost the same. One produces 10 widgets an hour
the other 50. Imagine the machines under any system of rights you want. Does
the efficiency vary. In some regimes is the first machine more efficient
than the second. How come?
The goal of the
Surely efficiency is not simply a function of rights.
They don't say that.
Rights certainly are
necessary for efficiency--as even eocnomists such as Coase recognize-- and
the degree of efficiency may partially is determined by rights structures:
but that does not entail that
Market woes test the mettle of iron, steel sectors
China Online
(30 January 2001)
A tenuous balance between supply and demand, imports and exportsXnot to
mention an ancient organizational structure and trouble with quality
controlXcombine to illustrate an industry in chaos, according
At 10:51 PM 6/3/99 -0400, Henry Liu wrote:
Russia test-fires ballistic missile
Thursday, 3 June 1999 19:10 (GMT)
(UPI Focus)
Russia test-fires ballistic missile
MOSCOW, June 3 (UPI) - Russia has test-fired a Topol-M
intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plisetsk missile range
Russia test-fires ballistic missile
Thursday, 3 June 1999 19:10 (GMT)
(UPI Focus)
Russia test-fires ballistic missile
MOSCOW, June 3 (UPI) - Russia has test-fired a Topol-M
intercontinental ballistic missile from the Plisetsk missile range in
northwest Russia, the Itar-Tass news agency
This is a test message to see if I am online to pen-l from my Clark address
from where I was banned from contacting pen-l until the feudal fascists in
the admin were forced to eat it due to righteous and swift responses from
freedom-loving academics far and wide--to whom I am very grateful
:
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freedom-loving academics far and wide--to whom I am very grateful.
On the issue
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sites,
infrared sights and laser ranger finders - is Soviet-made, the US military
is able to test every advanced avionics weapon in its arsenal against a
Soviet system...F-14, F-15, F-16, F-117, FA-18, B-52, B-2, A-10, Apache,
and even the B-1...got to believe there is more than a passing
Dear Friends:
I am forwarding this report of an unparalleled attack on teachers in Chicago
in the hope that you will circulate it is widely as possible. Substance
maintains the highest ethical and educational standards.
Dave Stratman
Subj: Test drama in Chicago
Date: 1/30
White is right, if you're
brown, get down, if you're black step back." The "House Nigger" and "Field
Nigger" mentalities began to invade the church at an alarming rate.
"We should all be familiar with the infamous "paper bag test" which was
employed by man
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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Date: Sept 5, 1997
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Friends
I have had trouble posting to the list.
Dave
Greetings,
We are trying out Acrobat as a method for disseminating repro-ready
information. All of the Mumia Fact Sheets have been converted to PDF files
(a link to the PDF version is at the bottom of each HTML Fact Sheet page).
We've placed a link to the Adobe Systems web site at the bottom of
Dear Pen-lrs,
The Center for Community Economic Research has just finished putting
together a simple World Wide Web simulation of the national budget, and
we'd like your help play-testing it. It's located at:
http://violet.berkeley.edu:6997/budget.html
If you have ideas about
test
here gives an argument I have long made against Milton Friedman-
ish type arguments to the effect that prediction, rather than
explanation, is the true test of theory. So he's not telling me
anything new.
But more to the point, he's missing the point, especially in terms of
the comparative
I would like to again raise a topic that continues to underlie the discussion
on GE Theory. Sensibly rising to some bait, Gil contended in response to
one of my postings that the Roemer type models actually produce rather than
merely "simulate" radical results. I think this is worth pursuing.
I would like to again raise a topic that continues to underlie the discussion
on GE Theory. Sensibly rising to some bait, Gil contended in response to
one of my postings that the Roemer type models actually produce rather than
merely "simulate" radical results. I think this is worth pursuing.
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