RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Davies, Daniel
One would also want to put insurance premia paid back into the surplus (they are typically subtracted from profits) in order to treat insurance symmetrically with self-insurance ... -Original Message- From: Doug Henwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 June 2002 02:12 To: [EMAIL

Fri., 6/14: Turn Your Back on Bush!

2002-06-05 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Friday, June 14 (Protest Alternative Commencement) Turn Your Back on Bush! 6AM, Ohio Stadium (East Side Gates) 411 Woody Hayes Dr. Columbus, OH Downloadable flyer: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/TurnYourBackonBush.doc. [Graduates: Decorate Your Mortarboard with a Peace Sign!] Turn Your Back

Surplus mysterious chatacter

2002-06-05 Thread miychi
On 2002.06.05 06:06 AM, Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part of properietors' income is really a quasi-wage, and part of wage salary at the top is really a quasi-capital payment. I would say net interest paid (not personal interest received) and rent belong too. In debating surplus

Re: Michael -- odd message from your server

2002-06-05 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael and others --- To be safe, update your antivirus software and scan your drives! I just got a message titled: Re: ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OA131_1023248015_MEXCMBX01_3 from the pen-l e-mail server. GroupShield is a server antivirus software program.

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug wrote, The concept is that households are the ultimate holder of business debts - financial institutions are just intermediaries. It depends on your theory, I guess. What you say above is reasonable from the point of view of some economists. I was just

RE: Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:26584] Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus for a quick dirty estimate of the surplus, use total property income (as a percentage of the private sector's product): interest plus profit plus rent. JD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: Markets and Diversity

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Best
The issue of markets and diversity also evokes an old theme in the history of economic thought that goes back at least to Adam Smith. The following comments are not meant to detract from the themes about the effects of corporate power on limiting product choice which are undoubtedly true (Fred

Re: Bono the useful idiot

2002-06-05 Thread Rob Schaap
Nice forward, Louis. I am what has become the uncoolest of creatures, a U2 fan of 22 years' standing, but I find that Marsh's article has given true voice to the ache this whole drawn-out business has occasioned deep in my expansive gut. Felt a few twinges when Attanborough saved the South

FDI

2002-06-05 Thread Ian Murray
Foreign investment drops by 60 percent as merger mania subsides MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer Wednesday, June 5, 2002 URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/06/05/nat ional1044EDT0621.DTL (06-05) 07:44 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) -- Foreign investment in the

RE: Krugman's IQ drop..

2002-06-05 Thread Ian Murray
-Original Message- From: Ian Murray To: pen-l Sent: 6/3/2002 10:32 PM Subject: [PEN-L:26553] Krugman's IQ drop.. [Jim Devine, did PK ever take an ethics class? Or a political theory class? Has he ever *worked* in a Fortune 500 firm?] I don't know what courses he took, while I doubt

JAMA: Don't believe everything you read

2002-06-05 Thread ravi
nothing to do with economics, but since this sort of stuff has come up before on pen-l, i thought some of you might find this interesting: JAMA: Don't believe everything you read CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) --One of the world's leading medical journals has put itself and its competitors under the

RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Eric Nilsson
Doug wrote, I was just citing the convention of the NIPAs. Conceptually, the people who make up households have to be the producers and recipients of everything, since corps are just legal fictions, no? It is a fiction that corporations are quasi-persons. Regardless of that, corporations are

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Eric Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:21 AM Subject: [PEN-L:26600] RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: Estimating Surplus Doug wrote, I was just citing the convention of the NIPAs. Conceptually, the people

Re: Re: Michael -- odd message from your server

2002-06-05 Thread Ann Li
FYI, yes it was something and it damaged my email software - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:24 AM Subject: [PEN-L:26587] Re: Michael -- odd message from your server I don't think that it is on my

RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Eric Nilsson
Ian wrote, Households are suppliers/producers of labor power, no? Yes, but this does not mean that your economic theory must underline (or start with) the role of households. My starting point for understanding economic behavior in capitalism is the process of surplus generation within the

Odd message from Merrimack College?

2002-06-05 Thread Eric Nilsson
Doug wrote, virus checkers telling me an email I never sent to someone I don't know was infected. The identity of the real source is usually in the X-Sender: field; the address in the From: field is forged. Checking all the internet headers of the message I got suggests that it originally

Re: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Eric Nilsson wrote: Ian wrote, Households are suppliers/producers of labor power, no? Yes, but this does not mean that your economic theory must underline (or start with) the role of households. I just meant households as a synonym for people. Institutions and social structures like

RE: Re: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Eric Nilsson
Doug wrote, Institutions and social structures like classes configure those people in arrangements that make possible surplus generation and distribution. But the start and end of any economic activity has to be human beings doing stuff together. True. But this do not imply you have to

Perot's unquestioned record of integrity

2002-06-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in April 2001 after state regulators refused to allow the company to fully pass on soaring power purchase costs to its customers. Full article: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20020605/tc_nm/ tech_perotsystems_dc_1

El Salvador's monopoly capitalism

2002-06-05 Thread F G
Michael expressed some desire to hear from other people on the list who are familiar with the economic situation in other countries. That said, I'll throw two cents in about the situation in El Salvador. The concentration of wealth and investment flows has reached extraordinary levels- I

1,000 firms run the economy

2002-06-05 Thread Eric Nilsson
Well not quite... But data I just put in my spiffy text is: Number of firms with 1-99 employees in the US: 4,800,582 (or 98% of all firms with employees) Number of firms with 10,000 or more employees: 936 (or 0.002% of all firms with employees) Number of employees working in firms with

Re: El Salvador's monopoly capitalism

2002-06-05 Thread Michael Perelman
Thank you very much for this post. I have to run to San Francisco to meet up with my father, so I must be brief. Usually, we only find out about situations like this after they reach crisis proportions. So now we add El Salvador to the Turkey-Argentina nexus. I wonder what it will take to

Re: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread ravi
Sabri Oncu wrote: How do you like my reformatting Eric? Apparently, I wrote some C programs. Don't like those object oriented languages though. I am yet too see their alleged advantage. What do you say Ravi? i like to believe that they exist to protect the novices from the sort of

Re: RE: Estimating Surplus

2002-06-05 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Eric Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: [PEN-L:26603] RE: Estimating Surplus Ian wrote, Households are suppliers/producers of labor power, no? Yes, but this does not mean that your economic

Male-female wage gap, all industries

2002-06-05 Thread Diane Monaco
Census: Pay disparity remains between men, women but gap closing Tuesday, June 4, 2002 DEBORAH BULKELEY, Associated Press Writer Women in the United States earned only 73 cents for every dollar men were paid in 1999, though the gap narrowed during the 1990s, according to census figures. Women

Male-female wage gap, managers

2002-06-05 Thread Diane Monaco
This is from the recent report A New Look through the Glass Ceiling: Where are the Women? by Representatives John D. Dingell (D-MI) and Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) that uses General Accounting Office data. The report finds clear evidence that the glass ceiling hardened rather than shattered after

[SAAN] *NEW* Petition to Vajpayee and Musharraf to stop march toNuclear Holocaust

2002-06-05 Thread Diane Monaco
Please sign the petition and forward this link. The intention is to send this to the two, and also to the press demanding that they pay attention to the voices for peace and rapproachement. Also please forward this link on all lists. http://www.PetitionOnline.com/ip2002/petition.html To: Prime

rich got richer in the 90s

2002-06-05 Thread ravi
i didnt see a mention of this before. sorry if its a repost. --ravi http://salon.com/tech/wire/2002/06/04/rich_richer/index.html Rich got richer in 1990s - - - - - - - - - - - - By Genaro C. Armas June 4, 2002 | WASHINGTON (AP) -- The economic prosperity of the 1990s gave a

Re: El Salvador's monopoly capitalism

2002-06-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael writes: So now we add El Salvador to the Turkey-Argentina nexus. I wonder what it will take to reach a critical mass. Brazil? As far as I know, Brazil has not been doing that well recently. I wonder if there are any Brazilians on this list who would care to comment on the below

Re: El Salvador's monopoly capitalism

2002-06-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
I said: I wonder if there are any Brazilians on this list who would care to comment on the below Stratfor articles. Hey, I promise, I will not hold it against you because you beat us 2-1 in the World Cup Finals on Monday. But that penalty was unfair and you need to admit that. But, of

EU, US butter-oil prices threatens Indian dairy industry

2002-06-05 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Economic Times Tuesday, June 04, 2002 EU, US butter-oil prices threatens Indian dairy industry PTI NEW DELHI: A highly subsidised international trade in milk products covering the European Union and the US can erode India's comparative advantage and competitive strengths in the dairy

Bono the useful idiot

2002-06-05 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, June 4, 2002 Bono the Useful Idiot Ballad of the Sun and the Moon by Dave Marsh I can pinpoint the nadir of rock music's first half-century: That wire service picture of Bono standing with U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, the two of them wearing local African costumes

Fri., 6/14: Turn Your Back on Bush! (Press Release)

2002-06-05 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
For Immediate Release June 6, 2002 Columbus, OH, USA Turn Your Back on Bush! * OSU students, alumni, and community activists will Protest the Endless War, Defend Democracy, and Stand Up for Civil Liberties by holding a sunrise ceremony, a rally, street theater, and an alternative

Re: RE: Re:Forstater: Text File Capitalist Slavery/Race

2002-06-05 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/29/02 1:11:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chang, following Marx, also uses the Gemeinschaft vs.Gesellschaft distinction to demonstrate that "a race or a racial groupcannot be a class in the strictly economic-relational sense of classes." While, in

Global unequal exchange

2002-06-05 Thread Chris Burford
prices will tend to align with prices in the most competitive parts of the area. From a passionately positive article about the benefits of the euro in the Guardian today, mainly emphasising the increase in inward investment in euroland by comparison with those EU countries that stayed out of