From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... (western) rationality is that human behaviour,
possibly emerged in Europe some centuries ago, which attemps to
impose a complete order on an infinite dimensional set, that is,
a continuum, that I call life. Life as a continuum can at best be
a partially
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
The science report
is that sad sick pretense of an exercise in c/v
building that pretends we can.
The basis both of SCIENCE (deified -- as at Sceptical Inquiere) and of
SCIENCE (demonized -- as with Carl too many others) -- is the Platonic
argument that a
Hi all,
Could anyone help me out with early references to planned obsolescence,
specially in the auto industry? When did the debate on this erupt? Did it ever?
What is some good reading?
What prompted me to think about this was this passage from noted New Guinean
anthropologist Peter
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... Both (Carl Sceptical Inquirer) are pitching religous
woo-woo and can't tell us much about the actual world.
Carrol
Woo-woo it may be, but it is of a decidedly irreligious nature. Know then
thyself, presume not God to scan, what? The proper study of
Title: campus anti-war movements
Seeds of Protest Growing on College Campuses
By TAMAR LEWIN
New York TIMES/Oct. 12, 2002
BOSTON, Oct. 10 - Mike McLinn never showed the faintest interest in political protest, but he has plunged headfirst into the effort to prevent an American attack against
Devine, James wrote:
Seeds of Protest Growing on College Campuses
By TAMAR LEWIN
New York TIMES/Oct. 12, 2002
[CLIP]
We knew that military action was likely soon, and wanted to give
students who supported it some way to show that to the rest of the
students. Military action has
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n20/domb01_.html [full]
So here we go again. In October 1991, following the Gulf War, early
inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) under Security
Council Resolution 687 revealed that Iraq had a clandestine uranium
enrichment programme based on the
At 03:47 AM 10/12/2002 +, you wrote:
The sheer complexity of modern technologies requires that RD be a team
effort; no one individual acting alone can supply the expertise needed to
advance the state of the art. If you have a team effort, you need
administrators to coordinate efforts,
In one famous study, published in the conservative Journal of Political Economy,
three prominent economists, Franklin Fisher, Zvi Griliches, and Carl Kaysen,
estimated that more than 25 percent of the selling price of a car came from the
cost of model changes that were unrelated to performance
In part Doyle wrote:
We're talking about Neuro-networks not
intuition.
Whatever intuition is
supposed to be in popular imagination it is
pointless to go on about
intuition when we have better ways to talk about
what is going in someone's
mind.
Problem is, we still have no adequate logic
--- joanna bujes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 03:47 AM 10/12/2002 +, you wrote:
The sheer complexity of modern technologies
requires that RD be a team
effort; no one individual acting alone can
supply the expertise needed to
advance the state of the art. If you have a
team effort,
Vance Packard wrote about such things for the general reader, beginning
in the 1950's. One, The Waste Makers, was specifically about planned
obsolescence I think.
See also http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/sbeder/columns/engcol8.html by
Sharon Beder, from the perspective of ethical engineering, for
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Sunday, October 13, 2002 Posted: 5:38 PM EDT (2138 GMT)
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FWIW I happen to agree that the draft was not the central
factor. Pure self-interest would not necessarily dictate
spending time in anti-war activism, since the relationship
between one's individual contribution and one's chances of
getting drafted were small. As a personal observation, there
--- Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
FWIW I happen to agree that the draft was not
the central
factor. Pure self-interest would not
necessarily dictate
spending time in anti-war activism, since the
relationship
between one's individual contribution and one's
chances of
getting
Title: RE: campus anti-war movements
[CLIP]
We knew that military action was likely soon, and wanted to give
students who supported it some way to show that to the rest of the
students. Military action has become the only way to solve this
problem, said Mr. Fairbanks, a sophomore at
- Original Message -
From: Charles Jannuzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For those of us who came of age in the mid to
late 70s, it's often hard to reconcile all those
news and movie images of hippies taking on the
powers that be and all those ex-hippies who
became the powers that be. It's
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
If there is an invasion that bogs down and/or entails a
steady, non-trivial stream of U.S. casualties, there will
without question be an anti-war movement. We need to be ready.
We need to be ready: And that is the whole point of all the
(fruitless) time spent
--- Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Charles Jannuzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For those of us who came of age in the mid to
late 70s, it's often hard to reconcile all
those
news and movie images of hippies taking on
the
powers that be and all those
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
If there is an invasion that bogs down and/or
entails a
steady, non-trivial stream of U.S.
casualties, there will
without question be an anti-war movement. We
need to be ready.
We need to be ready: And that
Title: RE: [PEN-L:31300] Western Rationality
I wrote:if enlightenment comes only from within, then there's no way to
convince anyone else of the validity of your enlightenment. It's like those religious people who say you have to Believe to understand. Well, I don't believe, so I'll just put
- Original Message -
From: Charles Jannuzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where do fans of Henry Purcell and Frank Zappa
fit in your political
taxonomy? :-)
Ian
Zappa: hippie. Capt. Beefheart: understood the
disinherited of the 70s. Henry Purcell: he sure
ain't Henry Rollins, but
Title: RE: Western Rationality
[By mistake, I sent this before I was finished. Please reply to this one.]
I wrote:if enlightenment comes only from within, then there's no way
to
convince anyone else of the validity of your enlightenment. It's like
those religious people who say you have to
RE: [PEN-L:31300] Western Rationality
- Original Message -
From: Devine, James
Lewontin and Levins (in their DIALECTICAL BIOLOGIST) argue against the
Enlightenment version of science. They see the world as heterogeneous,
involving a large number of parts that are interconnected as part
Devine, James wrote:
[CLIP]
This is looking at matters in an overly individualistic way, with too
much emphasis on rational decision-making (something I expect from
economists, not from Carrol).
O.K. I'll have to buy this. As you suspect, that is the one form of
disagreement that
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
For those of us who came of age in the mid to
late 70s, it's often hard to reconcile all those
news and movie images of hippies taking on the
powers that be and all those ex-hippies who
became the powers that be.
At least consider the possibility (and this was,
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
but anyone who could set
Dryden to music deserves some credit for trying.
Hey now -- Dryden wrote some pretty fucking good stuff.
Carrol
- Original Message -
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 6:24 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:31340] Re: Re: campus anti-war movements
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
For those of us who came of age in the mid to
late 70s, it's often hard to
--- Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Charles Jannuzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where do fans of Henry Purcell and Frank
Zappa
fit in your political
taxonomy? :-)
Ian
Zappa: hippie. Capt. Beefheart: understood
the
disinherited of the 70s.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Jannuzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well I always was most influenced by Zappa's
goofy-assed turns as 'consultant' for newly
'democratic' governments of Eastern Europe. I
think a few friends and I had a discussion of his
music though. It went something
Ian Murray wrote:
And some of them had MBA's some JD's some PhD's and some of them were
toddlers and parents
That goes without saying. I had a Ph.D. before I participated in my
first demonstration!
Carrol
Ian
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
but anyone who could set
Dryden to music deserves some credit for
trying.
Hey now -- Dryden wrote some pretty fucking
good stuff.
Carrol
Oh come on, Paradise Lost in couplets? No,
actually Carrol, I quite enjoy
UK retreats on farm pledge
Government likely to accept compromise CAP reform
Charlotte Denny, economics correspondent
Monday October 14, 2002
The Guardian
The government is preparing to back down from its demands for a radical
overhaul of the European Union's lavish farm subsidies in the face
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it's couplets, though, give me Pope
anyday.
With that I certainly agree. But Dryden's _Aeneid_ is well worth
reading. (I've never read his _Adam Unparadis'd_. That's the sort of
thing one takes up _after_ completing a
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Jannuzi wrote:
--- Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it's couplets, though, give me Pope
anyday.
With that I certainly agree. But Dryden's
_Aeneid_ is well worth
reading. (I've never read his _Adam
Unparadis'd_. That's
In a message dated 10/13/02 6:51:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The entertainer, who like Powell is a black man of Jamaican descent,
criticized the secretary when asked by radio host Ted Leitner whether
he thought Powell had taken a low profile as the Bush administration
In a message dated 10/13/02 9:51:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Devine, James" wrote:
Seeds of Protest Growing on College Campuses
By TAMAR LEWIN
New York TIMES/Oct. 12, 2002
[CLIP]
"We knew that military action was likely soon, and wanted to give
students who
Jim wrote:
I should reiterate that the reason why western rationality
is in quotation marks is because it is not the same thing as
scientific thinking.
Exactly. This is why I had western rationality in quotation
marks in my post that started this discussion.
As should be obvious that my
At 8:17 PM -0500 10/13/02, Carrol Cox wrote:
Devine, James wrote:
[CLIP]
This is looking at matters in an overly individualistic way, with too
much emphasis on rational decision-making (something I expect from
economists, not from Carrol).
O.K. I'll have to buy this. As you
There is no such Platonic argument. Thrasymachus in the Republic argues this
and gets a good trouncing for doing so at the hands of Socrates. Where do
you think that PLATO argues this? Or do you think that Thrasymachus is
actually Plato in the Republic. That is an interesting theory.
Cheers. Ken
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Greetings Economists,
Ravi writes,
i would use the example of the mathematician ramanujan, whose
mathematical results were stupendous, but who neither cared for nor was
good at proofs (leaving hardy to do the dirty work to establish his
impressive results). his justification for the results he
Singer Belafonte Likens Powell to 'House Slave'
Wed Oct 9, 5:06 PM ET
By Steve Gorman
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Singer Harry Belafonte (news) lashed out at
Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) in a racially
charged radio interview, likening the former general to a plantation
slave
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