Re: establishmentarian whining

2003-07-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
On the issue of valuing stock options: Can't they just apply Myron Scholes' formula? Gene Greetings from Ankara Gene, I don't know if anyone answered this but here is my answer. It is not appropriate to use the BlackScholes formurmula for the employee stock options. Firstly, BlackScholes

The trouble with social capital

2003-07-23 Thread Grant Lee
[Apologies for the cross-posting.] The Australian government's Productivity Commission [sic] has just released a report on social capital. Considering the enthusiasm for the concept by mainstream politicians --- right and left --- the report is surprisingly critical, although it fits with the

Re: Uchitelle on jobless recovery

2003-07-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Regulation is not popular in America. But it could regain its popularity, if the alternative is a continual loss of jobs in every state. Even so, the Bush administration has in reality regulated a lot. As mentioned in a previous PEN-L post, regulations governing US business reached an all-time

Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Mike Ballard
Long life and prosper... Mike B) 'Ape diet' lowers bad cholesterol levels 21:00 22 July 03 Shaoni Bhattacharya A vegetarian ape-diet, based on the foods our simian cousins eat, is as effective in lowering cholesterol as an established cholesterol-lowering drug, reveals a new study. High

Re: Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Devine, James
so does this mean I have to EAT the lice I pick off my wife? Jim -Original Message- From: Mike Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 7/23/2003 5:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [PEN-L] Ape diets...

Re: Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Mike Ballard
Just groom her nicely, Jim and remember the difference between flora and fauna. Mike B) --- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so does this mean I have to EAT the lice I pick off my wife? Jim -Original Message- From: Mike Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: chomsky

2003-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Dan Scanlan wrote: Collateral Language An Interview With Noam Chomsky David Barsamian It also led to the rise of the public relations industry. It's interesting to look at the thinking in the 1920s, when it got started. This was the period of Taylorism

Re: Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Hi Mike, Great you're back again. I don't think that Jim should eat insects. But look at it this way, if present trends continue, then within a few hundred years there might be little else to eat. A Toronto research institute did research on this, and found that if you fry them properly, certain

Re: Uchitelle on jobless recovery

2003-07-23 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even so, the Bush administration has in reality regulated a lot. As mentioned in a previous PEN-L post, regulations governing US business reached an all-time high in 2002, according to the Cato Institute; more than 75,600

Bari/FBI update

2003-07-23 Thread Dan Scanlan
Below is editorial comment by Progressive editor John Rothschild about the importance of the Bari/Cherney vs. FBI case in the context of the fascist police state we have suddenly found ourselves living in. The commentary was published a day after the verdict was announced last year. BULLETIN:

physicians and hedge funds

2003-07-23 Thread Eubulides
U.S. Doctors, Stressed at Work, Escape to Hedge Funds, Business July 23 (Bloomberg) -- Chip Skowron had visions of happily practicing and teaching orthopedics after finishing the Yale School of Medicine with M.D. and Ph.D. degrees in 1998. Then, he met what he calls the ``harsh'' reality of being

John Locke, the Brenner thesis and slavery

2003-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Journal of Agrarian Change, Vol. 3 No. 3, July 2003 Plantation Slavery and Economic Development in the Antebellum Southern United States by CHARLES POST Borrowing Robert Brenner’s concept of ‘social property relations’, the article presents an alternative analysis of the dynamics of plantation

Re: Uchitelle on jobless recovery

2003-07-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
...the issue is not more versus less government [or big government versus small government], but rather to whose interests the government gives effect. Hi Ian, of course you are correct here, your point is excellent, this is what I like to call excellent reframing, I continue to marvel at your

Re: Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Mike Ballard
Hi Jurriaan, When I was a kid in the 50s, somebody was selling chocolate covered ants at the farmers' market in Los Angeles. Never ate them myself. As for those meek rats and roaches inheriting the Earth, yes quite possible, as long as most humans persist in fetishizing commodity production.

Re: John Locke, the Brenner thesis and slavery

2003-07-23 Thread Devine, James
what's the point here? it can't be that Brenner somehow agrees with Locke, since that's not true. As for Locke, he was an addle-headed apologist: on the one hand, he asserted that if you mix your labor with something and create a product, it's your property. But then it turns out that if

Re: Bari/FBI update

2003-07-23 Thread Mike Ballard
I remember Judi and Darryl asking for seed money for this lawsuit at the IWW Assembly in SF the year they were bombed. We all sang the old songs and some new ones too. Utah Philips was there, lending a helping hand. J D were Wobblies as well as Earth Firsters in those days, all part of the

Re: Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Very wise ! Don't think we have had a point of genuine disagreement yet, except you're older and more streetwise than me, I don't underestimate you at all. This is what I like best about the more intelligent anarchists; their ability to transcend theoretical disputes and return us to the basics of

Re: John Locke, the Brenner thesis and slavery

2003-07-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Devine wrote: what's the point here? it can't be that Brenner somehow agrees with Locke, since that's not true. As for Locke, he was an addle-headed apologist: on the one hand, he asserted that if you mix your labor with something and create a product, it's your property. But then it turns out

John Locke etc.

2003-07-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Louis, You are correct. Ceteris paribus, slavery (formal or de facto) in modern capitalism is bound to increase in the future. This has to do not just with combined and uneven development, but with the quantitative extent of the unevenness and the exploitability of the whole human being with

Re: John Locke, the Brenner thesis and slavery

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I have problems with the idea that we have to choose between emphasizing imperial extraction or domestic surplus extraction. I think both were very important. On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:19:49PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: Devine wrote: what's the point here? it can't be that Brenner somehow

Re: Ape diets...

2003-07-23 Thread Mike Ballard
Hi Jurriaan, My friend Bernie, who is a jazz afficiando, went to Cuba and was very impressed with the amount of music surrounding him. At almost every cafe, there were people singing or making music of one sort or another. It's not a communist society; but it's not as bad as the capitalist

reading recommendation

2003-07-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I have been reading a very nice article about the railroad industry of the 19th-century. Some of it is not entirely new -- for those of you familiar with Tales of the Erie, but it does a nice job of showing how Enron-like shenanigans were common at the time and the importance of duping the press

Re: Uchitelle on jobless recovery

2003-07-23 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Uchitelle on jobless recovery ...the issue is not more versus less government [or big government versus small government], but rather to

Re: John Locke, the Brenner thesis and slavery

2003-07-23 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am preparing a lengthy reply to Charles Post, which involves a review of a lot of material I've never looked at before--starting with Phil Foner's fascinating account of ties between NYC merchants and the Southern

Re: reading recommendation

2003-07-23 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been reading a very nice article about the railroad industry of the 19th-century. Some of it is not entirely new -- for those of you familiar with Tales of the Erie, but it does a nice job of showing how Enron-like

Coke and the 'new' mercenarism

2003-07-23 Thread Eubulides
Coca-Cola boycott launched after killings at Colombian plants Sibylla Brodzinsky in Bogota Thursday July 24, 2003 The Guardian Trade unions around the world have launched a boycott of Coca-Cola products, alleging that the company's locally owned bottlers in Colombia used illegal paramilitary

Re: John Locke, the Brenner thesis and slavery

2003-07-23 Thread Devine, James
Ellen Meiksins Wood views him [John Locke] as a kind of patron saint of the agrarian bourgeoisie in Great Britain, which was the vanguard of capitalist transformation. Likely this is because the agrarian bourgeoisie -- and the urban one too -- viewed Locke as a kind of patron saint. He's the