Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread joanna bujes
Why does there have to be a suffering contest? What is worst than child abuse? Why? Joanna Jurriaan Bendien wrote: There are forms of abuse that are a lot worse than child abuse. J.

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Grant Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding child abuse in pre-modern societies, I think we often tend to see in such societies the things that we want to see, i.e. noble savages. And what is considered abuse in one society may be a social norm or even an obligation in another society.

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/21/03 12:39:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that there is room for a lot of improvement onthe issue child rearing. All the societies which Iknow of, contain an element of hierarchical power,even the preliterate, classless ones.

Not Understanding What This Has to do with Fidel Economics.. but Does Anatomy Rule?

2003-12-21 Thread Hari Kumar
Mike ballard said: There seems to be greater recognition today that abused children tend to grow into becoming abusive parents/adults themselves. It seems to me to be a conservative cycle which has the effect of putting a psychological stopper on the social revolution. Of course, if all

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Why does there have to be a suffering contest? What is worst than child abuse? Why? Proves my point really. J.

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread joanna bujes
And what was your point? Jurriaan Bendien wrote: Why does there have to be a suffering contest? What is worst than child abuse? Why? Proves my point really. J.

Should Saddam Hussein be sentenced to death ?

2003-12-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
And what was your point? This song don't have a video So you'll just have to listen Focus on the audio, The visual is missin', How am I gonna get it Is probably what you're thinking Your ears aren't tuned for singing Without watching lip synching This song don't have a video, You'll have to pay

Re: the capture of saddam

2003-12-21 Thread Eugene Coyle
Micheal, re your point about throwing a stun grenade into the hole: A Scottish newspaper (also picked up by The AGE in Melbourne) raises the argument that Saddam was actually captured by the Kurds -- perhaps weeks before -- and drugged and placed in the hole for the US hunters. Sort of like

new radio product

2003-12-21 Thread Doug Henwood
Newly added to my radio archive http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html: December 18, 2003 Larry Birns, director of the Council on Hemispheric Affairs, on the Central America Free Trade Agreement * Simon Head, author of The New Ruthless Economy, on working in the era of surveillance,

re-press-shun

2003-12-21 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: re-press-shun Editorial from the Toledo, OH Blade, Dec 13, 2003 A repressive embarrassment Anyone who thinks the administration and its law enforcement chief, Attorney General John Ashcroft, aren't out to impede a free press need only hear how the federal government is treating foreign

something new???

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Is Qadhafi the first person in US history to make the transition from demon to statesman? Usually, it goes the other way. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Not Understanding What This Has to do with Fidel Economics.. but Does Anatomy Rule?

2003-12-21 Thread michael
I don't think of you as a lurker. I appreciate your imput. I would like to see some official lurkers jump in. Hari Kumar wrote: PS: To Michael Perelman: Lurkers may be here to learn! As me. I appreciated very much the naive economic questions from - I think Mike B - who received expert

Re: something new???

2003-12-21 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Stalin made it (during the war) and then back. jks --- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Qadhafi the first person in US history to make the transition from demon to statesman? Usually, it goes the other way. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University

Re: something new???

2003-12-21 Thread dmschanoes
Kurt Waldeheim? - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: [PEN-L] something new??? Is Qadhafi the first person in US history to make the transition from demon to statesman? Usually, it goes the

Re: Not Understanding What This Has to do with Fidel Economics.. but Does Anatomy Rule?

2003-12-21 Thread dmschanoes
ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ASK. It's the most important function of any discussion. No such thing as too basic a question. dms PS: To Michael Perelman: Lurkers may be here to learn! As me. I appreciated very much the naive economic questions from - I think Mike B - who received expert tuition in

Re: something new???

2003-12-21 Thread Grant Lee
From: Michael Perelman Is Qadhafi the first person in US history to make the transition from demon to statesman? Usually, it goes the other way. Stalin in 1941-45? And then back to demon again.

Re: Not Understanding What This Has to do with Fidel Economics.. but Does Anatomy Rule?

2003-12-21 Thread Mike Ballard
Thanks for all the back-handed compliments. ;D And special thanks to Jurriaan for putting in excellent, skilled labour time in answering some of the questions which I've posed, most lately, the one about Fidel's comment on unequal exchange. Cheers all! Mike B) --- dmschanoes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: something new???

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Waldheim was a secret demon. That does not count. On Sun, Dec 21, 2003 at 05:57:45PM -0500, dmschanoes wrote: Kurt Waldeheim? - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: [PEN-L] something

Re: Should Saddam Hussein be sentenced to death ?

2003-12-21 Thread bgramlich
But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy

Re: Not Understanding What This Has to do with Fidel Economics.. but Does Anatomy Rule?

2003-12-21 Thread dmschanoes
Backhanded? I was referring to Hari, who stated he is afraid of asking questions because he might be wasting others' time. I don't consider a question about unequal exchange, given the fact that is a historical manifestation, a basic question. dms

Re: something new/Waldheim

2003-12-21 Thread Paul
True, although it was probably only a secret from the public. As I recall, after war the Yugoslavs filed a formal complaint against him as a war criminal with the Allied war crimes tribunal (U.S., Soviet, UK, French). Since was he then was a career diplomat being posted to the key capitals

New Scientist on resignation of WMD lead inspector

2003-12-21 Thread Chris Burford
The World's No.1 Science Technology News Service http://www.newscientist.com/ Lead Iraq weapons seeker 'to quit' 17:02 19 December 03 NewScientist.com news service The man leading the US hunt for biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in Iraq is to

Re: something new???

2003-12-21 Thread k hanly
Certainly Putin graduated from being a KGB agent of the Evil Empire to having a beautiful soul or something like that according to Bush..But it may tarnish fast.. Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: andie nachgeborenen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

cell phone info

2003-12-21 Thread joanna bujes
My ex and I are thinking of getting my son a cell-phone for xmas...and we don't have the slightest idea what to look at when looking at the various plans, cell phones, services etc. His pattern of use would probably be weekends/evenings and totally local to the bay area. If you can give some

Re: Cuba

2003-12-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
HI Mike, Thanks for all the back-handed compliments. ;D And special thanks to Jurriaan for putting in excellent, skilled labour time in answering some of the questions which I've posed, most lately, the one about Fidel's comment on unequal exchange. Well of course we can talk about Marx's

Re: Should Saddam Hussein be sentenced to death ?

2003-12-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Suppose that Bushies loved Saddam Hussein as they love themselves and their own country, what sort of love would it be ? J.

Weapons of Mass who cares?

2003-12-21 Thread Michael Pollak
From the Today's Papers newsletter for December 18th: quote The Post says all the way on A42 that the head of the weapons of mass destruction search team, David Kay, is quitting. It's not exactly clear when Kay is going to clean out his desk, but the WP says he might not be back after the

Re: Cuba

2003-12-21 Thread Carrol Cox
Jurriaan Bendien wrote: Well of course we can talk about Marx's theory of economic exchange, which is also important, but the political question for me is whether or not comrade Castro's comment is in fact conducive to promoting better trade relations between his country and the European

Re: something new/Waldheim

2003-12-21 Thread Eugene Coyle
That's ok, the new governor of California stood by Waldheim even when it became public. Paul wrote: True, although it was probably only a secret from the public. As I recall, after war the Yugoslavs filed a formal complaint against him as a war criminal with the Allied war crimes tribunal (U.S.,

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread Mike Ballard
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that there is room for a lot of improvement on the issue child rearing. All the societies which I know of, contain an element of hierarchical power, even the preliterate, classless ones. Non-democratic hierarchical power is

Re: Cuba

2003-12-21 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Castro's aim is what the primary aim has _always_ been in almost _all_ of his speeches, even those nominally addressed to the U.N. or other audience of rulers or their representatives -- he is aiming at creating solidarity among the victims of imperialism. The premise is (as it has always

nano-dirigisme

2003-12-21 Thread Eubulides
[Alexander Hamilton meets Richard Feynman] [New York Times] December 22, 2003 As Nanotechnology Gains Visibility, Venture Capital Begins Coming In By BARNABY J. FEDER It may take sophisticated microscopes to see nanotechnology's products, but the money pouring into the field is hard to miss.