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Summit Protest Report - Quebec 2001
Dancing with Teargas in our Eyes by Gary Morton
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Mapmaking martyr
Ian Thomas loves making maps. His talent won him
respect and a US government job. So why was he
fired for putting a chart of caribou calving areas on the
internet? Julian Borger reports
The Guardian, Thursday April 12, 2001
For some
So if we do not want to import human rubbish, we export material rubbish.
It is obscene.
Calling people rubbish is pretty obscene too, Chris.
I said upstream that I am for unrestricted, unilateral if need be, free
trade. I am also, with a very few restrictions, in favor of open borders
for
John Henry, in reply to Chris Burford, wrote:
So if we do not want to import human rubbish, we export material rubbish.
It is obscene.
Calling people rubbish is pretty obscene too, Chris.
I said upstream that I am for unrestricted, unilateral if need be, free
trade. I am also, with a very
There are a number of factors influencing the depopulation of the plains.
Even during early settlement there was a lot of land that was cultivated
that was not really suitable for cultivation and farmers gave up. Other
areas were productive in wet years and farmers made money during some years
Doug Henwood wrote:
Market people are constantly complaining about the European Central
Bank, which always seems opaque and confused. It's a surprise
whenever they do anything, but that's not really the kind of surprise
central bankers want to practice, since it seriously calls their
John Henry wrote:
Meanwhile the infamous Larry Summers World Bank memo becomes accepted
practice writ large (and one you appear to support).
Which memo was that and what is it that I would support?
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THE MEMO
DATE: December 12, 1991
TO: Distribution
FR: Lawrence H.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Joe Pirone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 01:12:55 -0400
Subject: (StudentTuitionAllianceOSU) 4/22 Dispatch article
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Plan to lift tuition caps could bring cuts in state funding
Sunday, April 22, 2001
At 04:34 PM 4/23/2001 +0300, you wrote:
John Henry wrote:
Meanwhile the infamous Larry Summers World Bank memo becomes accepted
practice writ large (and one you appear to support).
Which memo was that and what is it that I would support?
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THE MEMO
DATE: December 12, 1991
PLEASE POST WIDELY
This could prove to be the most important street action to reclaim WBAI and
Pacifica so far. If you live out of New York, please post to your lists.
You never know who knows someone in New York, and who's involved with the
station. Thanks!
Keaney Michael wrote:
The ECB remains
wedded to an anti-inflation policy that congenitally short-memoried US
investors and market people cannot grasp, and since it's not what Saint Alan
would do, it must be down to their incompetence, mustn't it?
Uh, European market people say the same things,
Doug Henwood wrote:
Uh, European market people say the same things, maybe more
vehemently. Americans rarely pay attention to the ECB, in fact.
=
Okay, let's go back to your original point then. As you stated, market
people, irrespective of geography (though predominantly European it
The wretched refuse of your teeming shores, it says on the base of the
Statute of Liberty. Course, these days, they can't come in. --jks
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Subject: [PEN-L:10552] Re: Exporting rubbish
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001
Keaney Michael wrote:
Okay, let's go back to your original point then. As you stated, market
people, irrespective of geography (though predominantly European it seems),
are lamenting the apparent incompetence of the ECB.
On what grounds?
Not giving clear signals of its policy intentions - of
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John Henry wrote:
Meanwhile the infamous Larry Summers World Bank memo becomes accepted
practice writ large (and one you appear to support).
Which memo was that and what is it that I would support?
=
THE MEMO
DATE: December 12, 1991
TO: Distribution
FR: Lawrence H.
brad, thanks once again for a great response.
Brad DeLong wrote:
Jeff Sachs (who I heard talk about this last fall, when he was giving
his Tropical Underdevelopment talk
http://www.cid.harvard.edu/cidwp/057.htmhttp://www.cid.harvard.edu/cidwp/057.pdf)
would answer your question with
Brad DeLong wrote:
1) The measurements of the costs of health impairing
pollution depends on the foregone earnings from increased
morbidity and mortality. From this point of view a given
amount of health impairing pollution should be done in the
country with
Brad Delong:
Points (2) and (3), by contrast, seem to me to be correct. World
social welfare would rise if we moved polluting industries out of the
Los Angeles basin to someplace poorer with cleaner air.
Lawrence Summers.
Louis Proyect
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In my view, point 1 is where Lant Pritchett (the author of the memo)
screwed up. The social welfare costs are *not* proportional to
forgone earnings.
Points (2) and (3), by contrast, seem to me to be correct. World
social welfare would rise if we moved polluting industries out of the
Los
[kinda makes PK's remarks in the NYT look stopid--go figure]
Published on Monday, April 23, 2001 in the Philadelphia Inquirer
Cashing In On Sweat of Workers Abroad
by Lenore Skenazy
How long would it take you to stitch a shoulder seam?
If you're making a kid-size Nike sweatshirt in the
Didn't the Brazilian environment minister write that it was insane? It
was, but it makes perfectly good sense within conventional economics. So
does the infamous cancer alley in Louisiana. Poor people cannot afford to
pay, so it makes sense to keep the affluent areas more pristine.
E. J.
Didn't the Brazilian environment minister write that it was insane? It
was, but it makes perfectly good sense within conventional economics. S
Do I obey economic laws if I extract money by offering my body for sale, by
surrendering it to another's lust? . . . . Am I not acting in keeping
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In the infamous memo, LP wrote:
I've always though that under-populated countries in Africa are vastly
UNDER-polluted, their air quality is probably vastly inefficiently low compared to
Los Angeles or Mexico City.
I don't understand this sentence. First, it's a comma splice (says the grammar
A couple days ago I wrote a note in favor of unilateral, if need be, free
trade. Someone responded with a note asking what I would do about
sweatshops. It's a fair question and deserves an answer. Unfortunately, I
seem to have deleted the note so I hope remember the thrust of it.
Nobody,
John Henry:
On the other hand, to many people, what we see as sweatshops appear to be
the proverbial golden paving blocks. In other words, it is the opportunity
to raise themselves from an even worse existence. For example, there have
been a couple of notes about the Maquiladoras in Mexico.
A couple days ago I wrote a note in favor of unilateral, if need be, free
trade. Someone responded with a note asking what I would do about
sweatshops. It's a fair question and deserves an answer. Unfortunately, I
seem to have deleted the note so I hope remember the thrust of it.
Nobody,
So how would you raise the living standards of the poor given capitalist
property
rights, financial markets, business cycles and greed?
Ian
John Henry is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist
fundamentalist. My guess that as long as poor people can go to heaven and
sit at the right
Hearts and Heads
By PAUL KRUGMAN
NYT 22 April 2001
There is an old European saying: anyone who is not
a socialist before he is 30 has no heart; anyone
who is still a socialist after he is 30 has no
head. Suitably updated, this applies perfectly to
the movement against globalization -
For example, could anything be worse than having
children work in sweatshops? Alas, yes. In 1993,
child workers in Bangladesh were found to be
producing clothing for Wal-Mart, and Senator Tom
Harkin proposed legislation banning imports from
countries employing underage workers. The
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The Two Faces of Hugo Chávez
by Gabriel García Márquez
While he told me his life, writes García Márquez, I discovered a
personality that did not correspond at all to the despotic image we get of
him through the media.
Justin Schwartz writes:
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Didn't the Brazilian environment minister write that it was insane? It
was, but it makes perfectly good sense within conventional economics. S
Do I obey economic laws if I extract money by offering my body for sale, by
BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, APRIL 23, 2001:
Regional jobless rates remained stable in March as 31 states continued to
post unemployment rates that were below the national average of 4.3
percent, the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics reports. BLS
said unemployment rates in all
... is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist
fundamentalist. My guess that as long as poor people can go to heaven and
sit at the right hand of Jesus, stuff like polluted water, low wages,
ramshackle housing, illiteracy, etc. don't count for that much. After all,
if you are going to
==
Well, why didn't Harkin get Jesse Helms to write a kinder gentler
aid/develoment
package so that schools and health clinics would be built. Was THAT the
anti-sweatshop movement's fault?
Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in
Bangladesh--would
BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, APRIL 19, 2001:
RELEASED TODAY: In 2000, 83.2 percent of U.S. families had at least one
employed member, about unchanged from 1999, the U.S. Department of Labor
Bureau of Labor Statistics reported. Of the nation's 71.7 million
families, 5.7 percent reported
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Hugo Chávez, Venezuela's Redeemer?
no 6, may / june 2000
The Two Faces of Hugo Chávez
by Gabriel García Márquez
While he told me his life, writes García Márquez, I discovered a
personality that did not correspond at all to the despotic image we get of
him through the media.
BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, APRIL 20, 2001:
RELEASED TODAY: Regional and state unemployment rates were generally
stable in March. All four regions reported little or no change from
February, and 44 states and the District of Columbia recorded shifts of
0.3 percentage point or less, the
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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001
--- David Shemano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin Schwartz writes:
Do I obey economic laws if I extract money by offering my body for sale, by
surrendering it to another's lust? . . . . Am I not acting in keeping with
political economy if I sell my friend to the Moroccans? . . . . The
John Henry is a marxist economist who teaches at Sacramento State. I have
been puzzled over the John Henry posts to the list. Now I see that there
are two people with the same name.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail
Ian Murray wrote:
Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in
Bangladesh--would make the Bangladeshi government straighten up and
fly right. He was wrong.
If Harkin had tied his bill to increased development aid for
Bangladesh, I would think better of him...
At 10:44 AM 4/23/01 -0700, you wrote:
[kinda makes PK's remarks in the NYT look stopid--go figure]
Published on Monday, April 23, 2001 in the Philadelphia Inquirer
Cashing In On Sweat of Workers Abroad
by Lenore Skenazy
How long would it take you to stitch a shoulder seam?
If you're
Ken may correct me, but I think in the Canadian prairie, cattle have
been more profitable than crop agriculture, particularly grains and
oilseeds. The strongest sector has been pork I believe.
The main reason for rural depopulation in Canada has been the
development of capital
Ian Murray wrote:
Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in
Bangladesh--would make the Bangladeshi government straighten up and
fly right. He was wrong.
If Harkin had tied his bill to increased development aid for
Bangladesh, I would think better of
Paul's discussion of the capital intensity of meat production was
excellent. He noted the importance of pork. I don't know if Canada is
producing pork in US-style factories, but these monstrosities require very
little labor. Neither does the prarie grain production -- the descendants
of the
many of the laws like this are written by a legislator who reads an
interesting story in the paper, and then wants to ride on the popular
momentum without a full understanding of the situation.
I do not know the specifics, but I suggest that if the US tried to
prohibit production from the
Ian
Since the point is that the policy as written was *stupid* and
*counterproductive*, that's irrelevant. To get something destructive
out of committee is an achievement only to those who view politics
as an arena for personal self-expression.
Brad DeLong
==
Is
==
Well, why didn't Harkin get Jesse Helms to write a kinder gentler
aid/develoment
package so that schools and health clinics would be built. Was THAT the
anti-sweatshop movement's fault?
Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in
At 22/04/01 20:08 -0300, John Henry wrote:
So if we do not want to import human rubbish, we export material rubbish.
It is obscene.
Calling people rubbish is pretty obscene too, Chris.
I said upstream that I am for unrestricted, unilateral if need be, free
trade. I am also, with a very few
Hearts and Heads
By PAUL KRUGMAN
NYT 22 April 2001
BTW, shouldn't PK give Alan Blinder credit for the Hard Hearts/Soft Minds
business? doesn't he respect intellectual property rights? Get with the
neoliberal program, PK! (While we're on the subject, Barkley could go on
and on about
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:24:06 -0500, Ken Hanly wrote:
I am sure people
in Bismarck North Dakota, Pierre S.D., Regina Sask. etc. would find it odd
that the article concludes that the Great Plains are not permanently
habitable by humans!
As would I, a native of Fargo, North Dakota. The Great
Does this mean that the PK watch is returning after a long hiatus?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:56 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:10578] Re: Exporting rubbish
Maybe George Bush wrote that part of the memo..I assume the meaning is that
air quality is probably vastly inefficiently low in POLLUTANTS
Most newer hog barns are of the huge US style. There is considerable
resistance to them. The resistance is not just from environmentalists but
from neighbours and those who have experienced living near the facilities.
Just recently I read an article that indicated some Iowa hog farmers were
We have to present some kind of coherent alternative to PK's neoliberal
TINAism. It's true that we can't go back to imaginary Arcadias. But why
can't we develop an alternative model that works?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
Has anybody
Do I obey economic laws if I extract money by offering my body for sale, by
surrendering it to another's lust? . . . . Am I not acting in keeping with
political economy if I sell my friend to the Moroccans? . . . . The
political economist replies to me, You do not transgress _my_ laws, but see
At 01:58 PM 4/23/2001 -0700, you wrote:
... is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist
fundamentalist. My guess that as long as poor people can go to heaven and
sit at the right hand of Jesus, stuff like polluted water, low wages,
ramshackle housing, illiteracy, etc. don't count for
At 02:34 PM 4/23/2001 -0700, you wrote:
John Henry is a marxist economist who teaches at Sacramento State. I have
been puzzled over the John Henry posts to the list. Now I see that there
are two people with the same name.
I didn't know about the other John Henry. I apologize if there was any
John Henry is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist
fundamentalist.
I am a Christian. But that has little to do with my views on capitalism and
economics. I really don't even consider myself a capitalist. I am a liberal
(classic liberal, libertarian or minarchist, if you prefer) I
You're welcome. How's the drinking water and cancer rate around the
chemical plants?
Puerto Rico's cancer rates are lower than the US as a whole. There is no
problem around the chemical plants. All our water and sewage is monitored
by EPA and generally meets the same standards
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Turn the screw
True market freedom means strictly regulating business so that everyone can thrive
Special report: globalisation
May Day 2001
George Monbiot
Tuesday April 24, 2001
The Guardian
You can't help admiring their nerve. Last week, the pharmaceutical companies sought
to persuade us
I asked:aren't there some fundamentalists -- present company excluded, of course --
who
want to speed up the end of life on earth, so we can join Jesus?
John Henry says:
Probably, there are all sorts of people who believe all sorts of things.
I'm not familiar with any group in particular
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Tim Bousquet wrote:
Is [Great Plains Depopulation], as Michael says, simply reflective of
meat products being imported from the rain forests? Is there any
literature on this?
I'd also like know more about rain forest ranching. Edward Luttwak wrote
an article recently
Jim wrote:
At 10:44 AM 4/23/01 -0700, you wrote:
[kinda makes PK's remarks in the NYT look stopid--go figure]
Published on Monday, April 23, 2001 in the Philadelphia Inquirer
Cashing In On Sweat of Workers Abroad
by Lenore Skenazy
How long would it take you to stitch a shoulder seam?
If
Jim D. says:
PK:
And
those jobs wouldn't exist if the wages were much
higher: the same factors that make poor countries
poor - low productivity, bad infrastructure,
general social disorganization - mean that such
countries can compete on world markets only if
they pay wages much
Meanwhile the infamous Larry Summers World Bank memo becomes accepted
practice writ large (and one you appear to support).
Which memo was that and what is it that I would support? I think I've
already said that I am against GATT, WTO, NAFTA et al.
Perhaps I am against them for the wrong
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