Signs in China and Taiwan of Making Money, Not War

2001-05-15 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
New York Times May 15, 2001 Signs in China and Taiwan of Making Money, Not War By CRAIG S. SMITH KUNSHAN, China, May 11 - Despite the visions of war conjured by President Bush's suggestion that the United States could help defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion, the social and economic

IMF and pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Keaney Michael
Brad DeLong writes: The availability of IMF loans gives countries facing financial crises a *few* more options: Harry Dexter White and John Maynard Keynes created it for a reason, after all. They were not dumb. If you want to know how the international financial system would function in its

Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread William S. Lear
On Monday, May 14, 2001 at 19:40:00 (-0700) Brad DeLong writes: I don't think that we need to bicker about the IMF. It is a tool of the oppressors and does terrible harm. Now, now. If there were no IMF--if there were no one willing and able to loan Argentina $40 billion to try to get it

Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Andrew Hagen
The larger point is that vigorous discussions that include debating strongly held views is not incompatible with a pen-l that is mostly free of personalized attacks. We're in this together, after all. Andrew Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unions and the Repugs. energy strategy

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
[driving a wedge between blue-green alliances?] http://www.latimes.com Tuesday, May 15, 2001 | Labor Courted on Bush Reform Plan Politics: The meeting with union leaders prefaces today's counterproposal by Democrats. By RICHARD SIMON, EDWIN CHEN, Times Staff Writers WASHINGTON--The Bush

BLS Daily Report

2001-05-15 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MAY 15, 2001: RELEASED TODAY: Labor productivity rose in 1999 in more than two-thirds of 119 U.S. manufacturing industries, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports. Slightly more than half of the industries registering productivity growth also posted

RE: Camejo still bullish

2001-05-15 Thread David Shemano
Mr. Proyect posted: --- [This is from a letter from stockbroker Peter Camejo to his customers, which can be read in its entirety at www.camejogroup.com. While Camejo apparently sold Progressive Assets Management, a so-called social investment

Re: RE: Camejo still bullish

2001-05-15 Thread Louis Proyect
Mr. Proyect, I have a semi-serious question for you. Do you put your money where your mouth is? Assuming you have some money to invest, do you (would you) avoid SP 500 funds, and instead invest in funds that short the market, or gold, or other bearish funds? Where are the investment funds that

Re: Re: Approval and Condemnation: Must they bebased on Morality?

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
For some reason, human beings, needing God, This is simply not true, either as a general statement or as an empirical summary of human experience. Most humans (including most of those who claim, if asked, to believe in god) get along very well without any god. are born into a world in

Re: IMF

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
Brad DeLong writes: The availability of IMF loans gives countries facing financial crises a *few* more options: Harry Dexter White and John Maynard Keynes created it for a reason, after all. They were not dumb. If you want to know how the international financial system would function in its

Re: Re: Re: reigniting the inequality debate

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
On Fri, 11 May 2001, Brad DeLong wrote: The answer to what is happening to world income distribution turns out to depend heavily on whether countries are weighted by population, and whether income in different countries is measured in PPP terms or by using actual exchange rates. Why

The number one rogue state

2001-05-15 Thread Ken Hanly
The Nation May 28, 2001 Editorial Rogue Nation News that the United States has been voted off the UN Human Rights Commission and the UN international drug monitoring board has elicited vows of revenge from conservatives in Congress. They threaten to withhold payment on the long-unpaid

Desalination in Southern California

2001-05-15 Thread Tim Bousquet
An interesting discussion of the economics behind desalination plants in Southern California follows. Remember that water sells for $75/ acre-foot in northern california, but that residential uses in So. Cal. pay about $520/ acre-foot. WATER SUPPLY DEVELOPMENT Metropolitan board to look at

Re: Desalination in Southern California

2001-05-15 Thread Ken Hanly
What is done with all the salt?. I assume it is a mixture of salts. Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Tim Bousquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PEN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: [PEN-L:11549] Desalination in Southern California An interesting

Re: Re: Desalination in Southern California

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Perelman
There used to be a lot of literature about using nukes for desalization. Maybe would could make an artificial salt bed to store the wastes. On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:38:16PM -0500, Ken Hanly wrote: What is done with all the salt?. I assume it is a mixture of salts. Cheers, Ken Hanly --

Pinkerton II

2001-05-15 Thread Ken Hanly
HighGrader Magazine March/April 2001 Balaclavas and Jackboots Private security armies on the picket lines by Brit Griffin The days of the Pinkertons may be back. At the turn of the last century, the Pinkerton detective agency was a strike-breaking army for hire. Companies regularly turned to

Re: Re: Re: Desalination in Southern California

2001-05-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:48 PM 5/15/01 -0700, you wrote: There used to be a lot of literature about using nukes for desalization. Maybe would could make an artificial salt bed to store the wastes. why not in Texas, near Bush's alternative White House (in Crawford?) Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Nathan Newman
A Broadband Mandate? Communities and Workers Win a Round in Internet Legislation by Nathan Newman, special to THE PROGRESSIVE POPULIST They're fighting over telecom legislation on Capitol Hill again. Long distance companies and Internet Service Providers are fighting with local Bell

Re: Re: Re: Desalination in Southern California

2001-05-15 Thread Tim Bousquet
http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAQH0W1WKC.html has a discussion of some of some of the environmental issues connected with the Tampa bay plant. Tim --- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to be a lot of literature about using nukes for desalization. Maybe would could make an

RE: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Max Sawicky
This looks very good, but to be more convinced I'd like you to state the other side's progressive arguments, such as they are, at more length, along w/your refutations. max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Newman Sent: Tuesday,

Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] This looks very good, but to be more convinced I'd like you to state the other side's progressive arguments, such as they are, at more length, along w/your refutations. The arguments come from very progressive consumer-style

FSC case appeal decision expected from WTO

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
WTO ruling on EU-US tax break row expected Monday GENEVA, May 15 (Reuters) - A panel set up by the World Trade Organisation (WTO) to resolve a multi-billion dollar row between Washington and the European Union over U.S. export tax breaks should issue its findings on May 21, diplomatic sources

Re: FSC case appeal decision expected from WTO

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Perelman
What are the odds that the WTO will actually challenge the US? On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:06:46PM -0700, Ian Murray wrote: WTO ruling on EU-US tax break row expected Monday GENEVA, May 15 (Reuters) - A panel set up by the World Trade Organisation (WTO) to resolve a multi-billion dollar

RE: Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Max Sawicky
Re: the opposing argument, if it's up to the Bells where to wire, how does a regulation to allow others to use their existing wiring give them any incentive to go into areas neglected because of profit considerations? It seems like a uni-service requirement included in the legislation

Re: RE: Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Nathan Newman
The best argument NetAction and other folks have after the Rush-Sawyer amendment is that the Bells are wily wabbits who have often managed to wiggle their way out of other regulatory mandates. Netaction has a whole white paper on How The Bells Stole America's Digital Future at

Re: RE: Camejo still bullish

2001-05-15 Thread Jim Devine
David Shemano wrote: Mr. Proyect, I have a semi-serious question for you. Do you put your money where your mouth is? Assuming you have some money to invest, do you (would you) avoid SP 500 funds, and instead invest in funds that short the market, or gold, or other bearish funds? Where are the

Re: Re: Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:40 PM 05/14/2001 -0700, you wrote: I don't think that we need to bicker about the IMF. It is a tool of the oppressors and does terrible harm. Now, now. a classic patronizing phrase. If there were no IMF--if there were no one willing and able to loan Argentina $40 billion to try to get

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
Now it's unlikely that democracy will prevail on a world scale in the near future (since, heck, it doesn't even prevail in the U.S.) As a compromise, perhaps we could return the IMF to the original role that Keynes and White recommended it. Given the way in which the IMF has screwed things

Expropriating Democracy update

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
http://election.independent.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=72520 Blair risks wrath of left in public sector reforms By Andrew Grice Political Editor 16 May 2001 Tony Blair will unveil a Labour manifesto today outlining sweeping reforms of the public sector that will give private firms a greater

RE: RE: Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread David Shemano
From a bankruptcy lawyer's perspective, the concept of requiring the Bells to license their lines to competitors has turned out to be pipedream. The DSL industry has imploded over the past year.Several of the companies that licensed the lines (Northpoint, Rhythms) have already filed for

corporate media is good for you

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Perelman
British and Canadian broadcasting is bad for you. One of the authors has been under discussion here recently. NBER WORKING PAPER Who Owns the Media? Simeon Djankov, Caralee McLiesh, Tatiana Nenova, Andrei Shleifer NBER Working Paper No. W8288 May 2001 Abstract: We examine the patterns of media

Re: RE: RE: Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Rob Schaap
David Shemano wrote: From a bankruptcy lawyer's perspective, the concept of requiring the Bells to license their lines to competitors has turned out to be pipedream. The DSL industry has imploded over the past year.Several of the companies that licensed the lines (Northpoint, Rhythms) have

Re: Re: RE: Camejo still bullish

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Perelman
I understand that David Rockefeller used to invite Stephen Hymer to discuss things because he had such good insights. Business Week always keeps some lefties on board. On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:44:37PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: Some Marxists have gone to Wall Street (e.g., as a result of being

Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle onCapitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Perelman
I thought that MCI and some of the others were cherry picking ATT before Greene's decision. Rob Schaap wrote: I'm left wondering ... if Greene had kept ATT as was in'82 (regulated wire monopoly across local loops and long-distance), and the government had allowed providers of other delivery

Chad, Oil Kakistocracy

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
[No mention of US role in kakistocracy formations; nor the corps hiring of security firms to lay mines to secure construction zones; see second piece below article] full piece at http://www.nytimes.com May 16, 2001 Chad's Wait for Wealth From Its Oil May Be Long By NORIMITSU ONISHI with NEELA

government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
No. Britain and Canada are outliers in their regression. Think of Malaysia, or China, if you want a typical country in which the government has a large media share. The government media-inferior health and the government media-inferior education correlations made me think of a possible

Re: corporate media is good for you

2001-05-15 Thread Rob Schaap
Michael Perelman quoted: NBER WORKING PAPER Who Owns the Media? Simeon Djankov, Caralee McLiesh, Tatiana Nenova, Andrei Shleifer NBER Working Paper No. W8288 May 2001 Abstract: We examine the patterns of media ownership in 97 countries around the world. We find that almost universally the

Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Rob Schaap
Brad DeLong wrote: No. Britain and Canada are outliers in their regression. Think of Malaysia, or China, if you want a typical country in which the government has a large media share. The government media-inferior health and the government media-inferior education correlations made me

Re: A Broadband Mandate?- Telecom Legislation Battle on Capitol Hill

2001-05-15 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought that MCI and some of the others were cherry picking ATT before Greene's decision. Absolutely. Under the regulatory structure established by the FCC and the states, ATT had to rebate 40% of all the costs of a long

Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Eugene Coyle
Is Brad blaming NPR for the kids here without health insurance? Gene Coyle Brad DeLong wrote: No. Britain and Canada are outliers in their regression. Think of Malaysia, or China, if you want a typical country in which the government has a large media share. The government

Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Rob Schaap
Britain and Canada are outliers in their regression. Think of Malaysia, or China, if you want a typical country in which the government has a large media share. The government media-inferior health and the government media-inferior education correlations made me think of a possible tie-in

government-owned media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
From pp. 4-5: We then consider the consequences of state ownership of the media To this end, we run regressions of a variety of outcomes across countries on state ownership of the media, holding constant the level of development, the degree of autocracy, and overall state ownership of

The Wars in Colombia: Drugs, Guns, and Oil May 17-19, 2001

2001-05-15 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Hello Pen-l, Below are details about an upcoming UC Davis conference on the conflicts in Colombia. Seth The Wars in Colombia: Drugs, Guns, and Oil May 17-19, 2001 A conference sponsored by The Hemispheric Institute on the Americas (HIA) University of California, Davis Conference

Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
Brad DeLong wrote: No. Britain and Canada are outliers in their regression. Think of Malaysia, or China, if you want a typical country in which the government has a large media share. The government media-inferior health and the government media-inferior education correlations made

Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Brad DeLong
Is Brad blaming NPR for the kids here without health insurance? No. The U.S. has a very small government-owned media share. It ought to--or rather their regressions predict--that the U.S. should have better health outcomes than it does...

NMD and Asian power realignments

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
India is the new Pakistan America's proposed missile defence system is causing a frantic realignment of alliances in south Asia Luke Harding Wednesday May 16, 2001 The Guardian For students of south Asian politics, the diplomatic choreography of the past week has been intriguing. Over in New

Ooooops

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
[Is this what they mean by randomness in the EMH? :-)] Slip of finger that cost City dearly Jill Treanor, deputy city editor Wednesday May 16, 2001 The Guardian An incidence of fat finger syndrome - inadvertently pressing the wrong button on a computer keyboard - landed an American investment

Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-15 Thread Rob Schaap
I'd written: What makes Britain, Canada, France, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, and Singapore 'outliers' and China and Malaysia 'inliers', ferchrissakes? And Brad replied: That there are a lot more countries like China and Malaysia than like the OECD countries with broadcasting monopolies:

Re: Ooooops

2001-05-15 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Ian, [Is this what they mean by randomness in the EMH? :-)] Slip of finger that cost City dearly Yep, a network is as capacious, fast and reliable as its smallest, slowest and least reliable node. And that's us ... whom nature is not likely to make any bigger, faster and more

Re: Re: Ooooops

2001-05-15 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Rob Schaap writes, Rob, Yep, a network is as capacious, fast and reliable as its smallest, slowest and least reliable node. And that's us ... whom nature is not likely to make any bigger, faster and more reliable for a few thousand years yet. Doyle Human minds are robust

IMF

2001-05-15 Thread Keaney Michael
Brad DeLong writes: Britain's march to socialism halted in 1976 by IMF! *Snort*. = A cocaine habit might explain how it is you would actually believe most of what you contribute here. In fact, as you are probably aware, there was a protracted struggle within the ruling Labour Party at