At 12:13 PM -0800 4/3/03, joanna bujes wrote:
The populist sentiment behind support for the troops seems to take
root in the observation that they are just doing their jobs. (For
those of you who have partaken of Hollywood's war films lately, that
seems to be a common theme. There's no
http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl?title=US%20arms%20group%20heads%20for%2
0Lisbonedition=697
FRONT PAGE STORY - 05/04/2003
US arms group heads for Lisbon
Directors of one of the world's largest armament companies are planning on
meeting in Lisbon in three weeks time. The American based
On Saturday, April 5, 2003 at 08:49:41 (-0500) Yoshie Furuhashi writes:
...
The government goes out of its way to support the positive image of
police officers -- law enforcement is another job that working-class
individuals may take. Many -- perhaps the majority of -- Americans
also uphold
Devine, James wrote:
Of course, the reason why I'm so auto-centric is that here in Los
Angeles, the way people express their individuality is through their
vehicles (so that those without cars don't have individuality). (BTW, my car
is a 2001 Toyota Prius.)
your futile attempt to escape
Im not clear how this decision process works. The article speaks of the
Pentagon vetoing a State Dept. list. Are there formal rules or is it a
backroom brawl without even regulation gloves? Didn't Blair get to enforce
Marquis of Queensbury Rules?
Cheers, Ken Hanly
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36621] Re: patriotism and car saga (II)
Ravi writes to me:
your futile attempt to escape the liberal bourgeoisie lable has been
noted and found seriously lacking. you shall be assimilated, comrade!
;-)
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resistance is futile?
Jim
Title: US/Iraq vs. Iraq/Kuwait
in all of the anti-war slogans, posters, literature, etc., I've never noticed anyone saying that the legal and moral status of the US invasion of Iraq is exactly on the same level as Iraq's invasion of Kuwait 13 years or so ago: it's an illegal grab for oil and
k hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im not clear how this decision process works. The article speaks of thePentagon vetoing a State Dept. list. Are there formal rules or is it abackroom brawl without even regulation gloves? Didn't Blair get to enforceMarquis of Queensbury Rules?Cheers, Ken
Title: rally 'round the flag
[from SLATE's on-line news summary]
A new LA [TIMES] poll shows healthy if not universal support for Bush
and the war. His approval rating is up to 68 percent, while
two-thirds of liberals and 70 percent of Democrats now support
the decision to fight. What's
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36623] RE: Re: patriotism and car saga (II)
Ravi writes to me:
your futile attempt to escape the liberal bourgeoisie lable has been
noted and found seriously lacking. you shall be assimilated, comrade!
;-)
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I wrote:
resistance is futile?
Title: academic angst
from MS SLATE's on-line summary of major US newspapers
Finally, the NY [TIMES] fronts the growing divide on college campuses between peace-loving professors, many of them veterans of the Vietnam era, and their hawkish, right-leaning students. The piece focuses largely on
Devine, James wrote:
from MS SLATE's on-line summary of major US newspapers
Finally, the NY [TIMES] fronts the growing divide on college
campuses between peace-loving professors, many of them veterans of
the Vietnam era, and their hawkish, right-leaning students. The
piece focuses largely on
I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Chico we have some
wonderful activist students, but at the same time, I guess that about
30-40% of my students in my introductory classes accept the Saddam-World
Trade Center connection on some level or another. There is a sort of why
In my case, 375 student elite liberal arts college, the ratio is around
20%. Until I suggested/provoked the students to cancel the classess and
organize a teach-in there was no visible activity on campus --they
seemed a bit paralyzed. There has been always a small group of militant
ones (20
From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Devine, James wrote:
from MS SLATE's on-line summary of major US newspapers
Finally, the NY [TIMES] fronts the growing divide on college campuses
between peace-loving professors, many of them veterans of the Vietnam era,
and their hawkish, right-leaning
Bill Lear wrote:
On Saturday, April 5, 2003 at 08:49:41 (-0500) Yoshie Furuhashi writes:
...
The government goes out of its way to support the positive image of
police officers -- law enforcement is another job that working-class
individuals may take. Many -- perhaps the majority of --
Bill writes:
The stance toward them should be the same: they are both pawns, usually
non-wealthy, fed intensive propaganda, left largely ignorant of the big
picture, and placed in often dangerous situations where it is nearly
impossible to do the morally correct thing. They should be held
Michael Perelman wrote:
I guess that about
30-40% of my students in my introductory classes accept the Saddam-World
Trade Center connection on some level or another.
Hey, look on the bright side - that's well below the general population!
Doug
Michael Perelman wrote:
I guess that about
30-40% of my students in my introductory classes accept the Saddam-World
Trade Center connection on some level or another.
Ask them how many Iraqis were among the 9/11 hijackers. Only 17% of
the U.S. pop correctly answers 0.
Doug
re-posted from ISML list
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THE STRATFOR WEEKLY
03 April 2003
by Dr. George Friedman
Baghdad
Summary
From the beginning of the war-planning process, Baghdad posed the
greatest challenge. The United States does not want to fight an
urban battle, but
e. ahmet tonak wrote:
In my case, 375 student elite liberal arts college, the ratio is around
20%.
That's one hell of a lot larger a percentage than was ever achieved in
the '60s. Clearly today's students are far more activist than were the
students of the '60s.
Carrol
Red Cross Horrified by Number of Dead Civilians
Canadian Press
Friday 4 April 2003
OTTAWA - Red Cross doctors who visited southern Iraq this week saw
incredible levels of civilian casualties including a truckload of
dismembered women and children, a spokesman said Thursday from Baghdad.
Roland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/03 00:06 AM
Taking stock of anti-war activists in Columbus, OH informally, I've
concluded that the overwhelming majority of formal and informal
leaders/organizers of the Columbus anti-war activist scene are either
employed in the public sector, employed in the quango
For Bush, Time to Mend Economy Is Running Out
By Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 5, 2003; Page A01
The Labor Department's report yesterday that the U.S. economy shed 108,000
jobs in March underscored an emerging threat to President Bush's
reelection prospects: He is
http://www.freep.com/money/business/food4_20030404.htm
Europeans find fraud in what U.S. calls food
Regions claim rights to Pilsener, bologna
April 4, 2003
BY TOSIN SULAIMAN
FREE PRESS WASHINGTON STAFF
WASHINGTON -- There's a global food fight coming.
European food producers want the rest of the
Bill writes:
The stance toward them should be the same: they are both pawns, usually non-wealthy, fed intensive propaganda, left largely ignorant of the big picture, and placed in often dangerous situations where it is nearly impossible to do the morally correct thing. They should be held
On Saturday, April 5, 2003 at 13:42:03 (-0500) Hari Kumar writes:
Bill writes:
The stance toward them should be the same: they are both pawns, usually
non-wealthy, fed intensive propaganda, left largely ignorant of the big
picture, and placed in often dangerous situations where it is nearly
The BBC
US firm pays Indonesian army
Friday, 14 March, 2003
The American mining giant Freeport McMoran paid the Indonesian military
more than $5m last year for protection in Papua, a troubled Indonesian
province.
Confirmation of the long-suspected arrangement was contained within a
In a message dated 4/5/03 3:04:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think security forces must be accommodated within any social movement
that pretends to justice, but I don't think necessarily that such a
movement would need to employ tactics that result in them being
Good quiz to pass around to the ignorati from Z Magazine.
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Iraq War Quiz
by Stephen R. Shalom
1. The anti-war movement supports our troops by urging that they
be brought home immediately so they neither kill nor get killed in a
unjust war. How has the
From a Boulder Colorado paper..
Cheers, Ken Hanly
http://www2.dailycamera.com/bdc/county_news/article/0,1713,BDC_2423_1866804,
00.html
Area surgeon aids troops
Boulder man operated on recently rescued POW in Germany
By Lisa Marshall, Camera Staff Writer
April 5, 2003
Friday morning: 57 dead;
As a Canadian I've wondered about this myself. Is this nationalism a means of not alientating the nationalistic majority, or is it rooted in something?
The only positive aspect to nationalism I can see is that it can serve as a means of identification that should breed empathy for your neighbours.
That is awesome. I had a discussion with my mother, a sixth grade teacher, about students standing for the national anthem. My mother holds many progressive views, and she is of the opinion, and one should show respect for this country be standing for the anthem. I asked her once, what she would
I agree with the Iraqi Ambassador to the UN, for the UN to be relevant, shouldn't it be pursuing stopping the war crimes currently being perpetrated by the illegitimate leaders of the U.S.?
The ability of the U.S. to force the entire world into submission is scary. While France, Russia, Germany,
Those people showed up, and they get my support, as do the half a million Brits, the hundreds of thousands of Canadians, the hundreds of thousands of Europeans, and most importantly the hundreds of thousands of Middle Easterners who reject the supposed stability ousting Hussein will bring. What
In case some Americans might wonder why Canada is reluctant to
back US imperialism.
Paul Phillips
Subject:In light of recent remarks by US
Ambassador to Canada, Paul Cellucci, it is wor
Date sent: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 21:59:02 -0600
In light of recent remarks made by
I love the English language: I'm assuming you mean "A good quiz from Z Magazine to pass around to the ignorati." Otherwise, some people at Z might be a tad offended.
Troy
Dan Scanlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good quiz to pass around to the ignorati from Z
This issue bedevilled the EU/S.Africa free trade talks here a few years ago.
The most obvious point -- that it doesn't matter at all what's inside the
package, profitability depends upon the brainwashing of consumers who
associate a brand name with a product -- was never made.
Let's hope that
one of the few bright outcomes from this insane war may be the devaluation
of United States brands in the rest of the world. On top of a
half-billion dollar trade deficit, it could have a substantial effect.
On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 07:45:13AM +0200, Patrick Bond wrote:
This issue bedevilled
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