Re: US: manufacturing

2003-11-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 10:24:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By John M. Berry Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, November 29, 2003; Page E01 Nearly a quarter of a century ago, when the number of manufacturing jobs in the United States peaked at just shy of 20

Re: US: manufacturing

2003-11-29 Thread paul phillips
Eubulides wrote: In the past two decades, manufacturing productivity grew at double the ace of overall productivity growth. . . . This increase in productivity has enabled the economy to grow faster without inflation and has been passed through to workers in the form of higher

buying time on trade sanctions

2003-11-29 Thread Eubulides
[Let's see what happens Dec. 6] [New York Times] November 29, 2003 Trade Sanctions Against U.S. to Be Delayed By ELIZABETH BECKER WASHINGTON, Nov. 28 - The World Trade Organization has agreed to a 10-day delay before Europe can impose $2.2 billion in sanctions against the United States in

Re: Soviet

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Hi M, You said: I do not belive a transition to socialism is possible. I believe the transition is to communism and what happened in the Soviet union was the development of an industrial infrastructure where the social power of capital was not organized in the form of individual owners in

Re: Greenspan's Ponzi Scheme

2003-11-29 Thread Michael Pollak
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Martin Hutchinson (author of The Bair's Lair) was quoted as saying: During the latter years of the 1995-2000 share price rocket, Greenspan joined with Wall Street shills in proclaiming a productivity miracle that had moved potential U.S. economic growth onto a permanently

Re: Europe's cheap US labor

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Hi ian, Anti-globalization rhetoric is the product of the media after Seattle. No one I know of organizing for that event thought of themselves or the issues in terms of globo/anti-globo. Why some insist on using labels that have been imposed on the 21st century social movements by people who

Re: Europe's cheap US labor

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Are you saying that national borders would still be relevant in classless societies, Jurriaan? That doesn't make much sense, does it. But, being accepted into a community does mean crossing some kind of border. J.

Re: Europe's cheap US labor

2003-11-29 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying that national borders would still be relevant in classless societies, Jurriaan? That doesn't make much sense, does it. But, being accepted into a community does mean crossing some kind of border. J. Hi J, That's true. The

Re: US: manufacturing

2003-11-29 Thread Seth Sandronsky
The efficiency of producing in the U.S. as a result of the nation's obstacles to free trade Seth Sandronsky Some Lost Jobs May Never Come Back Improved Productivity Allowed Manufacturers to Reduce Payrolls Permanently By John M. Berry Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, November 29, 2003;

U.S. Labor Campaigns for Iraqi Labor Rights

2003-11-29 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* U.S. Labor Campaigns for Iraqi Labor Rights Delegates Oppose Occupation by David Bacon By gathering together unions representing more than half a million workers six months after the Iraq war began, US Labor Against the War (USLAW) achieved a goal that even its organizers must, at times,

Re: Soviet

2003-11-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/29/03 12:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps you could argue that all industrialisation up till now has been forced, even so, (1) there is a big difference between free wage labour, forced labour, prison labour and slave labour, and (2)

Re: Entropy and pollution

2003-11-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 5:02:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:It is correct to label such discussions Malthusian ideology anytime one does not explain how the property relation reproduces the crisis that is the environment that is man, widens the metabolic rift, breaks

Re: Greenspan's Ponzi Scheme

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I've got the 'flu, but are you serious :-) See: http://www2.standardandpoors.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=sp/Page/In dicesBrowseMethodologyPgl=ENb=4s=6ig=48i=56r=1xcd=500f=3 There is nothing to explicate, because the math you cite is gobbledygook, the assumptions questionable and on

Real estate bubble?

2003-11-29 Thread Eugene Coyle
November 29, 2003 Apartment Glut Forces Owners to Cut Rents in Much of U.S. By DAVID LEONHARDT EMPHIS, Nov. 25 Renting an apartment in much of the country these days can feel a little like waking up on your birthday. Waiting for the tenants in some

Re: Greenspan's Ponzi Scheme

2003-11-29 Thread dsquared
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:23:40 -0500, Michael Pollak wrote: Had there been such a miracle, then some though not all of the higher valuations would be justified; if the SP 500 Index is selling on 20 times earnings, and productivity growth undergoes a secular and permanent increase of 1

Re: Greenspan's Ponzi Scheme

2003-11-29 Thread Eugene Coyle
The Gordon Growth model, from some ten-year old testimony of mine. Plus a little more, which I essentially learned from Robin Marris. Sorry, the drawing doesn't show up here. Gene Coyle The Valuation Of A Utility's Common Stock In order to consider how a utility's concern with

Name this war

2003-11-29 Thread joanna bujes
Kristof ran a name this war contest in NYT. See, http://nytimes.com/2003/11/29/opinion/29KRIS.html The five winners, each of whom gets a 250-dinar note left over from my last Iraq trip, are: Brad Corsello of New York for Dubya Dubya III; Richard Sanders for Rolling Blunder; John Fell of

Re: Greenspan's Ponzi Scheme

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks for that explanation, it's just like poetry (I'm not a professional econometrist and my brain is too clogged up right now for math). As far asI understand, the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act2003 changed the tax regime for dividends up to 2008. Qualified dividends of

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 11:17 AM -0500 11/28/03, Louis Proyect wrote: One of the drawbacks of the anti-globalization movement is its failure to posit an alternative to capitalism despite nebulous calls that another world is possible. To a degree, this is the result of being dependent on fuzzy thinking from anarchist

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread Louis Proyect
The so-called anti-globalization movement is a mixed bag. The hegemonic bloc in the movement, I think, are social democratic political parties and NGOs funded by liberal foundations like the Ford Foundation, rather than anarchists and autonomists. Anarchist and autonomist intellectuals, if

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The so-called anti-globalization movement is a mixed bag. The hegemonic bloc in the movement, I think, are social democratic political parties and NGOs funded by liberal foundations like the Ford Foundation, rather than

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread Louis Proyect
What evidence, if any, do you have that anarchist and autonomists are the Jerry Springer's of 21st century NSM's? The Toronto Star June 6, 1987, Saturday, SATURDAY SECOND EDITION Porno star bares all as she woos voters in Italian election By Ruth Gruber Special to The Star ROME - Radical party

Re: US: manufacturing

2003-11-29 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Eubulides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some Lost Jobs May Never Come Back Improved Productivity Allowed Manufacturers to Reduce Payrolls Permanently By John M. Berry Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, November 29, 2003; Page E01 snip to here: In the past five years alone, GM has cut

FW: Reminder: 11th Value Theory Conference at the EEA February 20-22 2004

2003-11-29 Thread Drewk
Please forward to interested parties: Dear all This is to remind you of the upcoming IWGVT value theory conference at the EEA in Washington DC, at the Hyatt Regency on February 20-22 2004. We can accept abstracts up to 20th December at which time we must provide the EEA organisers with a list

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread g kohler
Yoshie wrote: “The so-called anti-globalization movement is a mixed bag. . . . Anarchist and autonomist intellectuals, if anything, mainly serve to entertain, . . .” During the recent European Social Forum in Paris, France, the “anars” and libertarians of various stripes chose NOT to mingle with

Re: US: manufacturing

2003-11-29 Thread Michael Perelman
I like the part about passing the benefits of improved technology on to wage earners. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Winners and losers What evidence, if any, do you have that anarchist and autonomists are the Jerry Springer's of 21st century NSM's? The

Re: Winners and losers

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
My problem is that I was born in 1959. There's a difference between imaginative politicians and imaginative politics. People are very cautious these days about being imaginative, because anything creative you do can get stolen and perverted. J.

Quote du Jour

2003-11-29 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In the northern city of Kirkuk, U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island held a private meeting with local officials who pleaded for financial help from the American government. Clinton, a Democrat from New York, and Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island, spent