Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/20/03 12:08:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like: "I swear, if the girls do not clean up my stove I am going to kicktheir asses." Why should I not kick their ass. Do you have kids or just stupid? Melvin P.

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/20/03 12:50:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should I not kick their ass. Do you have kids or just stupid?Melvin, Michael Perelman is probably too busy writing his next book topay attention to this thread but I will not dignify your question with

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/21/03 8:12:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was young I was assaulted many times as a queer. I didn't even knowwhat that meant. There are certainly many people like Melvin who are in theleft and feel they are leftists. To them I am morally

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/21/03 9:30:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: recp 'comrades' used to kick shit out of gay rcp-er friend of mine for'bourgeois decadence' during 'maoist self-criticism'sessions...he remained member for number of years as this washappening... michael

Re: the next wedge issue/end enough of this

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/21/03 11:04:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let me repeat this with emphasis: the Soviet government did not viewsame-sex relations as being in any way *sick* or *perverted*. It didnot promote homosexuality, nor did it condemn it. This is all

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/21/03 11:44:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i have snipped out all the hand-waving (why, some of my best friends aregay! in fact some of them hit on me!) arguments. i want to hear thefactual basis (outside of the anecdotal evidence that is given) of

Re: the next wedge issue

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/21/03 2:21:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the debate with Melvin has gone on long enough. Let's callit finished.--Michael PerelmanEconomics DepartmentCalifornia State UniversityChico, CA 95929 Sorry I sent another article before I read

Re: Unsubscribe please

2003-11-21 Thread Waistline2
I did not oppose Gay marriage and I do not have to agree with anyone on the politics of maneuver. I oppose the state and my statements are very clear. Although I abhor homosexuality I have never raised it as an issue but responded to the politics of entrapment by the bourgeoisie. The list is a

Re: Michael Jackson: An ode to Joe Jackson - Song to My Father.

2003-11-23 Thread Waistline2
an intro quickly written for friend) Michael Jackson: An ode to Joe Jackson - "Song to My Father." "If there was every a manthat was generousand graciousand good . . . ..that was my dad... the man." "Song For My Father" with Leon Thomas on vocals: original composition by Horace Silvers and the

Re: Too many humans?/sex, reproduction, sexuality and everything/draft

2003-11-27 Thread Waistline2
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20031124/humans.htmlHumans Are UnsustainableNov. 25, 2003 A study that compared humans with other species concluded there are 1,000 times too many humans to be sustainable.The study, published in the current Proceedings B (Biological Sciences) by the Royal

Re: Malthus/Thanksgiving

2003-11-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/27/03 3:13:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melvin, neither I nor Mark Jones when was alive were Malthusian, neo or otherwise. Karl Marx was keenly aware of ecological limits. In his age the crisis revolved around soil fertility. Soil exhaustion had

Re: Malthus/Thanksgiving

2003-11-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 3:36:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melvin wrote:Starting from theexistence of a communist society - based on this stage of development,means thereemergence of human sexuality and concepts such as homosexuality losetheir forceand have no

Re: Malthus/Thanksgiving

2003-11-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 3:38:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please drop it. Sorry, I sent a reply before reading this. Melvin P.

Re: Soviet

2003-11-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 4:03:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melvin,Without wanting to raise the whole issue of Stalinism again, I'd just liketo say that in my opinion you aren't a Stalinist in terms of what you write.Your "problem" if anything is different - you seem

Re: US: manufacturing

2003-11-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 10:24:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By John M. Berry Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, November 29, 2003; Page E01 Nearly a quarter of a century ago, when the number of manufacturing jobs in the United States peaked at just shy of 20

Re: Soviet

2003-11-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/29/03 12:23:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps you could argue that all industrialisation up till now has been forced, even so, (1) there is a big difference between free wage labour, forced labour, prison labour and slave labour, and (2)

Re: Entropy and pollution

2003-11-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/03 5:02:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:It is correct to label such discussions Malthusian ideology anytime one does not explain how the property relation reproduces the crisis that is the environment that is man, widens the metabolic rift, breaks

Re: Question for

2003-11-30 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/30/03 12:25:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In what sense do you mean your claim that "urban life is unsustainable?" Do you mean we need better cities, or that cities themselves have to go? Please clarify. Your 11/27 posting appears to argue against

Re: Question

2003-11-30 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/30/03 3:34:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did not call you an FBI agent on LBO-talk, though I did say you have penisenvy regarding Doug Henwood. Meanwhile, I assume you're too embarrassed byyour own argument that "urban life is unsustainable" to

Re: Why Read Marx

2003-12-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/4/03 9:47:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yep, I passed it, but as regards this blog you post, in my opinion is showsonly the moral and scientific understanding of an ant. In which case you'dhave to recommend a track from Adam and the Ants.J. Comment

Re: US: the future of retirement

2003-12-07 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/7/03 3:31:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There has certainly been no shortage of alarms sounded recently about thefinancial status of future American retirees, especially the giant babyboom generation, which begins turning 65 in 2011.But a big new

Re: The merits of Leon Trotsky as railways manager

2003-12-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/7/03 8:54:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the 17th Party Congress in 1934 there was asubstantial vote against Stalin. At party meetings,the way you voted was to cross out the name of theperson you did not want elected. Of 1225 votes cast,there

Re: Antisemism and the Us Left/(Was Zionists American Blacks)

2003-12-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/7/03 8:46:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Pogrebin were to apply the logic of affirmative action -- positive discrimination in favor of the oppressed to bring about equality -- to Israel, she ought to reverse her argument, defending the Palestinian

Re: The merits of Leon Trotsky as railways manager

2003-12-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/8/03 2:34:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Winning 925 yes votes out of 1225 votes cast is not a bad thing. Winning 1222 of 1225 is excellent. Does Sergei Kirov have any writings worth reading? Just curious. Melvin P.Not that I know of Melvin.

Re: Elvis has left the building

2003-12-08 Thread Waistline2
Apparently Jurrian Bendien has left the stadium. Interesting writer that helped me further understand why I am a communist and not a socialist. All Roads lead to Communism. Melvin P

Re: Blacks Palestinians (was Antisemism and the Us Left)

2003-12-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/8/03 5:08:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The materialconditions often bring Blacks and Arabs together, for instance inDetroit, but not in a way that alliance-building would be easy (Blackfolks in cities often encounter Arabs, like Koreans, as

Re: Question re basics

2003-12-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/14/03 1:12:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The present financial explosion which is unprecedented can't be handled in terms of the hints in Volume III about finance. Although, they are not unuseful, not without considerable value. The whole notion of

Re: Correction

2003-12-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/14/03 7:25:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Fidel Castro article I referred to was actually by Fernando Morais, in Penthouse, December 1978 issue (a collector's item these days). Tad Szulc wrote mainly on American subversion of foreign governments

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/19/03 6:46:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I do know that the notion of contract is based on private property--the contradiction between private property and social necessity.I do know that contract is in essence the paper reproduction of

Re: Fidel Castro on unequal exchange

2003-12-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/21/03 12:39:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that there is room for a lot of improvement onthe issue child rearing. All the societies which Iknow of, contain an element of hierarchical power,even the preliterate, classless ones.

Re: Scriptures

2003-12-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/23/03 4:44:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well functioning economy based on a variety of property forms? That's nonsense. Property forms are congealed products of the social organization of labor. Comment At this juncture of history the idea that

Re: Heresy....

2003-12-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/29/03 9:34:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw that movie. Denzel Washington arrests Bruce Willisin the end, and everything goes back to normal. Comment Nope . . .Denzel plays the role of Alonzo in "Training Day" and screams "King Kong aint got

Re: DeLong on Paul Sweezy - brief comment on law of value

2004-03-02 Thread Waistline2
"But then again, I'm not sure exactly what it means to have to have "the law of value"continuing "to operate under socialism." Does that mean that the economyisn't totally under a plan? Comment "The Economic Development of the USSR" by Roger Munting, St. Martin Press 1982 contains enough

Re: Mel Gibson splits the Neocons where Marxists failed ?

2004-03-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/11/2004 11:34:55 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Passion, which could become the biggest-grossing movie of 2004 and surely the biggest ever with subtitles - the actors speak in Aramaic and Latin - appears to have pushed some very influential

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

2004-03-16 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/16/2004 10:15:20 AM Central Standard Time, lnp3 @PANIX.COM writes: Jurriaan wrote: The very term recruiting is problematic, because this suggests that people are being conscripted into a military service under a Marx commander, a Marxist boss. And this is one of the factors

Re: Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism

2004-03-16 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/16/2004 4:35:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, so now there are going to be bosses. The question raised however is:how do they become bosses, by what process? How do they establish theirleadership ?To explicate the problem simply, let's just take

Re: Job flight

2004-03-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/28/2004 3:28:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's Panglossian political economy. The destruction or creation ofjobs is not a technical function, but a social one. The expulsion oflabor power from the production process is essential to

Re: From Your Friends at Dissent

2004-04-05 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/5/2004 10:34:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am negotiating with an agent now. She is insisting that I makeeverything "dumber" to make the work popular. To do so would requireopening me up to the kind of questions that Zinn is getting -- but it isan

Re: unsubscribing...

2004-04-09 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/9/2004 1:01:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The real point to the introduction of the advanced technology is simplecost control-- closing X number of train control stations with X numberof personnel and combining the remaining into a central office

Re: Mark Jones Was Right

2004-04-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/10/2004 9:29:54 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Global warming is not a product of 6 billion people on a planet builtfor 2. Global warming is the product of the private property system ofcapital's need to garner profit no matter what the SOCIAL cost.If

Re: Mark Jones Was Right

2004-04-10 Thread Waistline2
But you are wrong. Global warming is a byproduct of the burning of fossilfuel. There is no socialist solution to this problem. _ DMS: No, global warming is not simply a byproduct of burning fossil fuel, since global warming has accompanied, step for step, increases in

Re: Mark Jones Was Right/correction

2004-04-11 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/10/2004 7:23:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The world sewage system - even in the most modern countries, is configured on the basis of man existing in a pathological condition (embedded with ancient and modern forms of property expressed in our

Re: Mark Jones Was Right

2004-04-11 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/11/2004 1:46:58 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fourth, all this talk about having a revolution and allowing changes inproperty relations to solve the overpopulation/overconsumption/pollition-global warming is hopeless dreaming. Not only were the

Re: Mark Jones Was Right

2004-04-11 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/11/2004 2:57:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, Jim, although if as some are suggesting we shift from oil to coal,the problem will get worse, not better. Furthermore, it does nothing tosolve the population pressure on other resources, in particular

Re: Mark Jones Was Right/last response on this particular theme

2004-04-12 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/11/2004 7:22:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, what I said , or at least what I meant to say, was that this beliefthat all the problems are caused by property relations and that thereare not real (ecological) constraints on population growth and

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-13 Thread Waistline2
Roy Medvedev: "You can't be anything but tough in Russia. We live in acountry where a civil society has not yet been formed. The leadingpolitical and social force after the fall of the CPSU is thebureaucracy. The bureaucratic hierarchy from bottom to top is theframework of the state.

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/13/2004 2:22:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Che Guevara had some of the most interesting insights into the problems of socialist construction since the days of Lenin. He is better known as a guerrilla fighter, but his essays on planning and other

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin) - edited

2004-05-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/13/2004 2:22:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Che Guevara had some of the most interesting insights into the problems of socialist construction since the days of Lenin. He is better known as a guerrilla fighter, but his essays on planning and other

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:52:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin.90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what theythink, just as I defer customarily to what the

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/14/2004 8:40:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This bureaucracy - we are talking about real people, receiving money and spending money or helping todrive reproduction and the realization of surplus value - profits. No amount of sloganeering on the part

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/14/2004 9:23:36 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the defining event of the past 4-5 years in Russia, in terms of domestic politics, has been the struggle between the bureaucracy and big business, the so-called "oligarchy." Not that the

Re: Why did the USSR fall

2004-05-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/1/2004 11:14:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I fall half way between Chris Lou. A more social democraticgovernment could alleviate poverty a la US New Deal, but in no waywould it eliminate it. On the other hand, from what I gather Putin ischallenging

Re: Why did the USSR fall?

2004-04-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/27/2004 5:53:12 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A very complicated systemwas malfunctioning and it could not react to internal problems, itwas incapable of restructuring -- and this was the path the worldfollowed in reacting to the scientific and

Re: Why did the USSR fall?

2004-04-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/27/2004 9:50:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apparently the internal economic integration of the Soviet Republic was not called into question but rather the form - not centralization, but more than less mechanical bureaucracy and its structures that

Re: Russian oil - Question

2004-04-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/27/2004 2:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This book is a study of the survivability of world- capitalism. Itshistory has always been one of growing dependence on fossil fuels,despite success in squeezing energy-intensity out of the system. Energy

Re: We are all Highland Parkers/economic origins of communist class

2004-04-29 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/28/2004 1:54:16 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are all Highland Parkers ( Waistline's/Melvin Pcity) Comment What most of Highland Park looks like, basically, is some little townoverrun by the Nazis in World War II. MP. I have in mind a combination

Re: We are all Highland Parkers/economic origins of communist class - 2

2004-04-29 Thread Waistline2
Three years ago, the city was taken over by an emergency financial manager, Ramona Henderson-Pearson, who remains in charge. According to a document prepared in February, she found money missing and records in chaos.MP. Sister Ramona aspires to be Condensing Rice and fired the entire police

Re: a non-Jones theory of oil prices

2004-05-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/17/2004 9:53:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, Mark Jones is ultimately correct. At some point natural conditions will drive up the price of hydrocarbons. The only question is about timing. Comment And a broken clock is right at least two

Re: a non-Jones theory of oil prices

2004-05-22 Thread Waistline2
http://www.thememoryhole.org/corp/gas-prices.htm How Oil Companies Manipulate Gas Prices.

Re: The USSR and the economy of politics . . . the politics of economy.

2004-05-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/17/2004 12:40:53 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the end, Soviet workers did built socialist housing for themselves, but it was too late. The little girl died some time in the process. Vadim StolzCommentThe Marx standpoint demands that we learn how

Re: Analysts - Putin to Launch Systematic Campaign Against Oligarchs

2004-05-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/25/2004 2:23:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US Robber Barons participated in the creation of modern industry. Will there be any positive legacy of their Russian counterparts? Comment I have a point of view that cannot be validated . . yet. The

Re: Analysts - Putin to Launch Systematic Campaign Against Oligarchs

2004-05-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/26/2004 9:41:46 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bingo.The Putin position seems to be that, if you do what the state wants, you can have all the money you want. If you cross the state, you go down. Hard.We will see what happens to the shares of Yukos that

Re: Analysts - Putin to Launch Systematic Campaign Against Oligarchs

2004-05-27 Thread Waistline2
Putin promises brighter future for Russians plagued by povertyVLADIMIR ISACHENKOVThe Herald, May 27 2004THE president promised Russians affordable housing, education and healthcare and shrugged off allegations of authoritarian trends in his state ofthe nation address yesterday.Vladimir Putin

Re: Analysts - Putin to Launch Systematic Campaign Against Oligarchs

2004-05-27 Thread Waistline2
Vladimir Ryzhkov, a leading liberal MP, said Putin's criticism ofnon-governmental organisations sent a bad signal."That sounded like a veiled threat," Ryzhkov told reporters. Comment "Veiled threat?" . . . well, one can of course have different definitions of the word "veil." Mr. Putin is the

Re: Analysts - Putin to Launch Systematic Campaign Against Oligarchs

2004-05-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/27/2004 7:31:26 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Me: Reduction of poverty is the main stated goal of Putin's second term, along with doubling GDP in 10 years. He repeats it practically every chance he gets.I have the text of the address in English, BTW,

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-12 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/12/2004 9:00:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I read it in the (New York Times, Newsweek, National Geographic, theNational Enquirer, All of the Above); I saw it on TV; I heard (ColinCampbell, Mike Davis, Homer Simpson, All of the Above) say it. Ergo

Re: Further confirmation of Mark Jones

2004-06-16 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/16/2004 12:22:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Comrade Mark J was talking about something with a lot more depth than the price form. ^ CB: Yes, I have been wanting to suggest this for a while in this debate. I don't quite see how that literally and

Re: Putin - the Plan

2004-06-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/19/2004 11:10:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I blame the situation in the republic on a combination of incredibly weak Chechen leadership, the clan nature of Chechen society, poverty, Islamist influence (and $$) and the wreckage caused by

Re: cheers!

2004-06-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/19/2004 1:03:04 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: happy Juneteenth!jd Comment It is also my mother's birthday . . . . who passed a while back, but the wife and I are celebrating Juneteenth in Texas - the birthplace of the holiday as I understand

Re: Chris Doss's sources

2004-06-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/20/2004 12:51:51 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, sartesian wrote: One mo' time: Looking for that thing called specificity, Mr. Proyect. And that would be a social specificity, analyzing the material forces at work

Re: Chris Doss's sources

2004-06-20 Thread Waistline2
This thing about oil has reach the level of the absurd in my opinion. Putin represents bourgeois property in Russia but not as an abstraction. He also represents distinct national interest and geopolitical considerations . . . Comment What is actually meant is not a denial of the

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-21 Thread Waistline2
Funke Jayson J wrote:For people on this list fortunate enough to have some personalfinancial considerations to think about (retirement funds etc), howdo you handle planning for your financial future while reconcilingthose actions with your personal convictions? How do

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/21/2004 10:46:12 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a pension from the auto industry with medical benefits and my investment money went South during the earthquake of April 2001. My hair brain schemes to recover lost dough made matters

Re: Putin

2004-06-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/21/2004 10:30:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We were briefly discussing the question of whether the Chechens sought to ethnically cleanse Chechnya of Russians et. al. at the beginning of the 90s.This discussion came about because Chris Doss

Re: Mark Jones Still Among the living (was titled Wrong)

2004-06-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/22/2004 1:31:37 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point, precisely! All I suggest is picking up another symbol, out of my respect to his "virtual" memory.Best,Sabri Comment Bingo. It gets worse or rather more intense when a fluctuation in

Re: Mark Jones Still Among the living (was titled Wrong) - Correction

2004-06-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/22/2004 4:41:39 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It gets deeper because Comrade Marx - an unyielding champion against tyrants, advanced a specific proposition concerning what he called the bureaucracy. After over thirty years engaging the

Re: Mark Jones Still Among the living (was titled Wrong)

2004-06-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/22/2004 6:18:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I of course reserve the right to revise and adjust anything I write and admit faulty thinking. Peace Melvin P.How about Mark?Can he do that?Sabri Reply I personally engaged Mark J. on every

Re: Putin

2004-06-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/23/2004 11:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those Marxists who may or may not endorse a particular "national liberation" struggle are not: 1. made Marxists or non-Marxists by their endorsement 2. relieved from correctly characterizing the

Re: Putin

2004-06-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/24/2004 3:26:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was going to comment on this bit you write a while back but then got distracted by a pointless flame war. Comment Flame wars or fire wars only require a single spark to ignite. Upon inspection

Re: EMH

2004-06-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/24/2004 9:06:54 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ---Marxism-Leninism is a dead ideology!I count the seconds... :) Reply Everyone has their own brand and definition of Marxism Leninism, although I most certainly believe that it is dead for complex

Re: Putin - Texas and the national factor- last post on this subject

2004-06-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/24/2004 7:57:32 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I have been able to find, the Bolsheviks did not consider Chechnyans as a national minority with a right of succession. --- Reply I read the material suggested at

Re: Putin

2004-06-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/25/2004 3:44:48 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a political decision. It has outraged a lot of conservatives (in the Russian sense of the word). Most people think he should be buried and the mausoleum turned into a museum. Wasn't

Re: Putin - Texas and the national factor- last post on this subject

2004-06-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/25/2004 8:40:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The situation is particularly complicated in a state like the USSR and Russian Federation, neither of which were/are nation-states. (None of the ex-Soviet republics are nation-states, which maybe

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/26/2004 1:01:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1817-64:. These are the years of the fierce series of rebellions and conflicts called the Caucasian War, in which the Chechens play a major role. Ultimately Russia subjugates the Caucasus through

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/26/2004 12:17:19 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The struggle for "national liberation" did not arise in the past 150 yearsseparate and apart from critical moments in the conflict between the means and relations of production, and consequently

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice/ Henry C.K. on Money

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2
There are fundamental faults with specie money. To begin with, specie money must be based on a commodity of limited supply. There was a time when new gold was discovered so abundantly in the New World that gold was the cause of inflation in Europe. Thus an effective specie money by nature

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice/ Henry C.K. on Money - 2

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2
The Foreign Capital HoaxThe Chartalist theory of money claims that government, by virtual of its power to levy taxes payable with government-designated legal tender, does not need external financing. Accordingly, sovereign credit should enable the government to act as employer of last

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice/ Henry C.K. on Money - 3 - end

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2
Sovereign Credit (Part 1) By Henry C.K. Liu Credit drives the economy, not debt. Debt is the mirror reflection of credit. Even the most accurate mirror does violence to the symmetry of its reflection. Why does a mirror turn an image right to left and not upside down as the lens of a

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part two

2004-06-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/26/2004 10:57:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Under Stalinist state-capitalism, however, monstrous crimes were committed against the nationalities, including the mass deportation of the entire Chechen population. This is ethnic cleansing on

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part two

2004-06-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/27/2004 8:45:43 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In 1997 Russia allocated to Chechnya 963 billion non-denominated roubles (including 88 billion roubles as transfer payments, 300 billion roubles as payment of pensions by the Russian Pension

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part two

2004-06-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/27/2004 9:54:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brother Melvin begins the process of properly framing the critical questions. We have a condition of economic, social deconstruction, devolution, where the centrifugal forces part and parcel of

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part two

2004-06-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/27/2004 12:12:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- BTW, when the Bolshies were talking about national self-determination inside Russia, weren't they mainly talking about developed "nations" like Ukraine or Georgia? Did they write much on

Re: Chechen relations -- final for today

2004-06-27 Thread Waistline2
--- BTW, when the Bolshies were talking about national self-determination inside Russia, weren't they mainly talking about developed "nations" like Ukraine or Georgia? Did they write much on peoples like the Chechens, Avars, Chukchi, Chuvash, Ingush, etc.? Thereare over 100

Re: Chechen relations -- final for today - correction

2004-06-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/27/2004 4:50:22 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In other words when the genocidal wars of extermination was launched against the Indians and after their brutal conquest there did not exist a petty bourgeoisie, a bourgeoisie or a proletariat as

Re: Chechen relations -- final for today

2004-06-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/28/2004 4:30:52 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think the comparison with Native Americans is very instructive. Groups such as the Chechens, Avars, Chuvash, Dargins, etc. etc. etc. are in effect the Native Russians of those parts of Russia

Re: Chechen relations -- final for today

2004-06-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/28/2004 7:56:19 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just one note of clarification. Melvin says that American Indians didnot have a bourgeoisie, etc. (as if that's any excuse for genocide), butthe Cherokees--one of the most populous groups--were

Re: Chechen relations -- final for today

2004-06-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/28/2004 7:56:19 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just one note of clarification. Melvin says that American Indians didnot have a bourgeoisie, etc. (as if that's any excuse for genocide), butthe Cherokees--one of the most populous groups--were

Re: Chechen relations -- final for today/conclusion

2004-06-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/28/2004 10:06:14 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ironically, I think it could be argued that Russian expansion was so much more benign than its American counterpart just because the Russian Empire was much more "backward" than the United States;

Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part three

2004-06-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 6/28/2004 10:45:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, of course, there were also other comments about my chronology. One such comment was that who cared if the Tsarist government waged decades of warfare to smash the Caucasus, or if Stalin

Re: More progress in Russia

2004-06-29 Thread Waistline2
Budget money allocated for World War II veterans will be 20 times greater and 10 times greater for the disabled, President Vladimir Putin said Monday as he tried to win support from a skeptical population for his plans to replace

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