To the moderator: please unsub me

2000-10-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear Michael, I have not been able to cope with the mass of electronic mail that I have been receiving these days, sorry but I need you to unsub me from your list. Thanks and regards to everyone here. Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Internationalization of Amazonia, again

2000-10-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear Cdes. and friends, Here is a personal translation of a short article by Carlos Chagas that has been published on a mainstream Brazilian newspaper, the _Tribuna da Imprensa_. What is now so startling for the Brazilian _establishment_ (the _Tribuna_ is not precisely a progressive

Re: Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re: Capitalism as slavery

2000-10-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
By the way, does anyone know of some interesting reading stuff explaining why didn't Brazil generate its own "breeding states" while the USA did? A hug, Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Kostunica admits Kosovo killings

2000-10-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3467] Re: Kostunica admits Kosovo killings, el 24 Oct 00, a las 19:22, Louis Proyect dijo: "I am ready to... accept the guilt for all those people who have been killed," Mr Kostunica said. "For what Milosevic had done, and as a Serb, I will take responsibility for many

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chemical weapons alert

2000-10-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3447] Re: Re: Re: Re: Chemical weapons ale, el 24 Oct 00, a las 7:23, Jim Devine dijo: BTW, the whole "dry" movement, which stimulated Canadian exports from 1920 or so to the early 1930s by imposing Prohibition on the US, is a prime example of the limits of standard

Re: WWR mysteries of the organism

2000-10-13 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3109] WWR mysteries of the organism, el 13 Oct 00, a las 11:59, Jim Devine dijo: [was: Re: [PEN-L:3106] Re: Re: Re: Where are the economists?] Brad writes: Where Rostow went most wrong, I think, is in his naive and optimistic belief that "take off" was

Re: Re: Re: WWR mysteries of the organism

2000-10-13 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3123] Re: Re: WWR mysteries of the organ, el 13 Oct 00, a las 15:18, Jim Devine dijo: Néstor wrote: "Take off", that is a foolish substitute for national revolution. It's interesting that this is the mirror image of WW Rostow's view that communism is a disease of the

Re: Re: Re: WWR mysteries of the organism

2000-10-13 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3125] Re: Re: WWR mysteries of the organ, el 13 Oct 00, a las 15:40, Brad DeLong dijo: WW Rostow was not right, and this I will not debate with you. But the reasons why are quite different. Neither Argentina, nor Uruguay, nor least of the three Chile had taken off.

Re: Marx who?

2000-10-12 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3051] Marx who?, el 12 Oct 00, a las 11:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: The Chicago Trib had a special section on the centennial of the snobby North Shore high school, New Trier, in connection with which the paper discussed the old Trier, talked about how it was founded by

On nationalism (2)

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
I have realized that I did not comment _which_ were the "national tasks" I was referring to. I will profit by Ken Hanly's posting on the strategies of IMF so I can make it clear. I will do some editing, just in order to explain this issue. I will adapt the "strategy for Ecuador" to a

Re: RE: Re: Memory History: Herman Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile)

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2978] RE: Re: Memory History: Herman Mel, el 10 Oct 00, a las 20:05, Lisa Ian Murray dijo: Nestor, Do you mean this to say that nationalism is still desirable as a form of cultural defense against the Americanization of everything? Ian I am a socialist, I don't

Re: Re: Memory History: Herman Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile)

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3000] Re: Memory History: Herman Melvill, el 11 Oct 00, a las 12:28, Louis Proyect dijo: I would only add to their excellent article that social democracy is only possible in imperialist countries. In Costa Rica, the one place it occurred in the Third World, market

Re: What lies in store for Yugoslavia

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3010] What lies in store for Yugoslavia, el 11 Oct 00, a las 15:21, Louis Proyect dijo: Report: E. Europe Kids Impoverished By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 2:39 p.m. ET LONDON (AP) -- At least 50 million children in eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union

Re: What lies in store for Yugoslavia (2)

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3010] What lies in store for Yugoslavia, el 11 Oct 00, a las 15:21, Louis Proyect dijo: Report: E. Europe Kids Impoverished I forgot: remember that old line by Marx, that each social system had its own population laws? OK, here you have a full scaled experiment on

Re: Re: Re: What lies in store for Yugoslavia

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3022] Re: Re: What lies in store for Yugos, el 11 Oct 00, a las 14:50, Jim Devine dijo: hey, there are a lot of Irish Catholics in the North of Ireland who feel that they're treated like "Third Worlders," just as Irish immigrants were when they came to the US in the

Re: RE: Re: What lies in store for Yugoslavia (2)

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:3023] RE: Re: What lies in store for Yugos, el 11 Oct 00, a las 17:53, Brown, Martin (NCI) dijo: Be careful, Larry Summers will conclude that this a good "revealed preference" calculation for the economic value of life in Argentina and then apply it to pollution control

Re: Re: Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2914] Re: Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile, el 10 Oct 00, a las 0:36, Nathan Newman dijo: Contra many folks, though, I think the US's collective guilt has far less to do with its particular military actions, some of which like Kosovo and Haiti I can defend, but in its

Re: Memory History: Herman Melville's _Benito Cereno_ (was Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile)

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2965] Memory History: Herman Melville's , el 10 Oct 00, a las 17:51, Yoshie Furuhashi dijo: What has not changed, however, is the idea that it is Americans who should bring criminals of the world to justice. It goes without saying that this self-image makes Americans

Re: Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile

2000-10-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2803] Yugoslavia to fSU and Chile, el 8 Oct 00, a las 13:29, Seth Sandronsky dijo: Ken wrote: The majority may not like Milosevic but they have given his party more than a majority in recent elections. That is why you are seeing a Western-generated uprising.

Re: Forwarded from Greg Elich (Just give the Americans what they want?)

2000-10-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2811] Forwarded from Greg Elich (Just give, el 8 Oct 00, a las 10:30, Greg Elich dijo: When I was in Yugoslavia, it was clear to me that the left had great support. There were certainly plenty of supporters of the right as well, but their strength did not appear to

Chelm (was Re: NY Times LA Times: It's Economy Geopolitics, Stupid! (was Re: Yugoslavia: what the media is h

2000-10-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2836] NY Times LA Times: "It's Economy , el 8 Oct 00, a las 16:47, Yoshie Furuhashi dijo: ... Milosevic, but for the Serbian working class rural masses Western geopolitics, could have been a Kwasniewski: * New York Times, October 8, 2000 Polish Leader Is the

Re: Re: Re: Milosevic out?

2000-10-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2763] Re: Re: Milosevic out?, el 7 Oct 00, a las 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: At 6:05 AM +0800 7/10/00, Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: In Belgrade we have had a rehearsal of the "out wih Ferdinand Marcos" play, where a good fraction of the petty b

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2764] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolut, el 7 Oct 00, a las 9:01, Louis Proyect dijo: Dennis: Whence this fetishism of Eastern European state-party father-figures? Per capita GDP in Poland, Slovenia and the Czech Republic is higher now than in 1989, and many of these

Re: Of Nationalist Thugs (and those who enthroned them)

2000-10-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2768] Of Nationalist Thugs (and those who , el 8 Oct 00, a las 1:59, Rob Schaap dijo: G'day Brad, [overwhelming mass of evidence snipped] Reckon the Balkans'd be a much better place if 'we' had kept our filthy mits off the place ... Just the Balkans? Néstor Miguel

Villarroel (was Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Milosevic out?)

2000-10-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2787] Re: Re: Re: Re: Milosevic out?, el 7 Oct 00, a las 10:49, Jim Devine dijo: Néstor ripostes: The same could be said of the mob who gathered at the Murillo Square of La Paz, in Bolivia, in 1943, and hang President Gualberto Villaroel, whose only crime had been

Re: Milosevic out?

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2699] Milosevic out?, el 6 Oct 00, a las 8:55, Jim Devine dijo: The protestors -- who seemed to have come from all major classes, unlike previous anti-Milosevic waves, which were primarily based in the urban middle classes -- were fighting the Yugoslav government, led

Re: Yugoslavia again

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2708] Yugoslavia again, el 6 Oct 00, a las 10:06, Michael Perelman dijo: I do foresee one problem looming for the United States. First we lost the Soviet Union, then Eastern Europe. North Korea seems to be coming to some sort of agreement with the past. Iran seems

Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Noblesse oblige. A good one, Brad. A pity you can't see with the same clarity other issues... Well I'm of the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan" brigade: compared to the Taliban "Really Existing Socialism" is the lesser evil, and worth supporting... Brad DeLong Néstor

Re: Re: Re: Yugoslavia

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2748] Re: Re: Yugoslavia, el 6 Oct 00, a las 20:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Michael: Paul, aren't there other examples about the US defending figure head presidents vs. strong legislatures when it suited them? Paul: Michael, I am sure there are. But what

Re: Re: Re: Milosevic out?

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2740] Re: Re: Milosevic out?, el 6 Oct 00, a las 15:29, Jim Devine dijo: I wrote: The protestors -- who seemed to have come from all major classes, unlike previous anti-Milosevic waves, which were primarily based in the urban middle classes -- were fighting the

Re: Sweatshop and Underpollution Question

2000-10-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2571] Sweatshop and Underpol, el 2 Oct 00, a las 10:06, Keaney Michael dijo: Now we know the value of great seers such as Chun Doo-Hwan, Suharto, Pinochet, and, presumably, other authoritarian (as opposed to totalitarian = communist) rulers. Pity the poor Ghanaians for

Re: Re: Brad speaks

2000-10-01 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2552] Re: Brad speaks, el 1 Oct 00, a las 11:43, Carrol Cox dijo: Jim Devine wrote: a former colleague of mine who objected because I referred to "the theory of comparative advantage" because "it's not a theory, it's simply true" (to paraphrase). (By the

Re: Sweatshop and Underpollution Question

2000-09-30 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2542] Sweatshop and Underpollution Questio, el 30 Sep 00, a las 16:37, Michael Perelman dijo: If market forces are supposed to allow poor nations to develop by accepting sweatshops and pollution, why has the recent upsurge in neoliberalism led to greater equality within

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: TheUS buys ...

2000-09-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2433] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re, el 28 Sep 00, a las 8:37, Jim Devine dijo: Brad wrote: Well, my priestly sect right now are pretty confident that we're more like the Egyptian priests telling people to plant when the dog star rises just before dawn. Oh, I missed that

Re: Re: Re: (Fwd) Re: Re: Re: Re: debating yugoslavia

2000-09-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2436] Re: Re: (Fwd) Re: Re: Re: Re: debati, el 28 Sep 00, a las 12:21, Doug Henwood dijo: Brad DeLong wrote: But it is clear to me who the true heirs of the Nazis are. The folks who recruited them for the CIA? Doug No, the folks who waved "hellos" to the

Re: Re: Re: ozzie language

2000-09-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2462] Re: Re: ozzie language, el 28 Sep 00, a las 14:04, Jim Devine dijo: another NPR story remarked unlike the Ozzies and the Kiwis, the "Yanks" don't really have a cute nickname for themselves. What should it be? I like Yanks because otherwise it would be

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: TheUS buys ...

2000-09-27 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2367] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dissolving h, el 26 Sep 00, a las 23:14, Doug Henwood dijo: Carrol Cox wrote: According to Doug (answering a question at the marxism 2000 plenary he spoke at) the economics profession is intellectually and morally bankrupt. Yeah, I

Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.)

2000-09-26 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2302] Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yu, el 25 Sep 00, a las 23:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: I disn't say that the historical facts are unimportant--although sometimes I think it's advisable to forget them for pragmatic purposes when trying to frame a solution to a

Re: Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.)

2000-09-26 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2320] Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: , el 26 Sep 00, a las 10:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo I am not an academic or an economist. You will have to decide for yourself whether I am a faithful servant of the IMF. --jks [I had previously pointed out that jks's way of

Re: Re: Re: Dissolving history (was Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.)

2000-09-26 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2322] Re: Re: Dissolving history (was Re: , el 26 Sep 00, a las 8:30, Michael Perelman dijo: I don't think that Nestor was accusing you of either crime. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not an academic or an economist. You will have to decide for yourself whether I

Re: oil, wheat, argentina

2000-09-26 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2216] oil, wheat, argentina, el 24 Sep 00, a las 22:33, Michael Perelman dijo: A recent report by the Worldwatch's Lester Brown points out that while the U.S pays for its oil imports in part with grain exports, exports of grain and oil are each concentrated in a

A correction (was Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy for Yugoslavia.)

2000-09-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2288] Re: Re: Re: The US buys democracy fo, el 25 Sep 00, a las 21:22, Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: What would they say if, for example, Pinochet lavishly funded a pro- Russian party for the American elections? Or would they, in the end, prefer to vote for "thei

Re: Re: Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1675] Re: Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was, el 10 Sep 00, a las 18:22, Brad DeLong dijo: What makes the Marseillaise "creepy" rather than "barbarous" is that it spends more lines making it very clear what the stakes are--liberty vs. tyranny--than it does calling for

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1684] Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage o, el 10 Sep 00, a las 21:53, Brad DeLong dijo: the US government (which also allied with the Argentine junta until the latter came into conflict with the UK, a more important ally). The Argentinian Junta never was

Re: Re: Re: Thatcher and nationalism

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1680] Re: Re: Thatcher and nationalism, el 10 Sep 00, a las 21:13, Brad DeLong dijo: (The internal structure of Argentina is not the business of interlopers from the imperialist world -- and interloping from alleged leftists is the worst of all). Positively, totally,

Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argentina

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
After I read what follows, and which deserves no answer at all, I am beginning to believe that I am not debating with Brad DeLong, but with Spruille Braden DeLong. From now onwards, I will put things in clear by addressing Mr. Braden DeLong... En relación a [PEN-L:1685] Re: Canada,

Unsub me, please

2000-09-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear Michael, I guess I have paid my debt with your list with the recent comments on Díaz Alejandro's sack of rotten potatoes. Could you please unsub me now, because I couldn't do it myself? I am already leaving home, can't wait more. A hug, Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

WW II, Anglo American competition in the River Plate, and Argentina

2000-09-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1606] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australi, el 11 Sep 00, a las 1:16, Rob Schaap dijo: Hi again, Nestor, This is EXACTLY what Peronism attempted to do here, and failed. Funny to see again how different are things in an imperialist country and in a colony. In more

Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1475] Re: Re: A slight advantage of povert, el 8 Sep 00, a las 7:43, Jim Devine dijo: At 10:26 PM 09/07/2000 -0700, you wrote: --Governments that throw people out of helicopters into the South Atlantic have no business ruling anybody, let along waging war to increase

Re: Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1484] Re: Imperialist progressivism (was R, el 8 Sep 00, a las 9:16, Michael Perelman dijo: The debate on the Falklands/Malvinas is troubling. I thought the outcome meant that Thatcher triumphed politically, while the junta had to face political defeat, eventually.

Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argentina

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1490] Re: Canada, Australia, Argentina, el 8 Sep 00, a las 10:22, Bill Burgess dijo: However, by the mid 1980s the US-controlled share of all non-financial industres in Canada declined to levels below the post-WW2 buildup (the US share has risen slightly since then, as

(Fwd) RV: SEAMOS LIBRES Y LO DEMÁS NO IMPORTA NADA

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
To gauge who San Martín (and Sergeant Cabral) were, I am sending a small quotation from an excellent Marxist biography of our Libertador, that has just appeared (this year we commemorate the 150th anniversary of his death in exile, exile due precisely to the same interests that made the Disco

Allende, copper, Chavez, oil, CIA

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1529] Re: Re: pomo or the economy?, el 8 Sep 00, a las 17:29, Michael Perelman dijo: On Democracy Now today, Juan Gonzalez suggested that the money for Colombia may be in part a preparation to "Allende" Chavez. Certainly. It is quite obviously thus. But this time they

Re: Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argentina

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1553] Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argen, el 9 Sep 00, a las 12:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Nestor and Bill, Let me reiterate my main point which I take you both would either agree with or at least accept as a reasonable argument. Dear Phillip, I do not consider

Re: Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argentina

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1553] Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argen, el 9 Sep 00, a las 12:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: It is for this reason or in this context that I say the Canadian economy is dependent. And I agree that this is a very different form of dependency that Frank argues for

Re: Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argentina

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1549] Re: Re: Re: Canada, Australia, Argen, el 10 Sep 00, a las 3:37, Rob Schaap dijo: Australia, too, consciously nourished its (relative) independence, largely through mutually constitutive ties between Australia's government and bourgeoisie - ensuring that the latter

Leaflets (Re: Re: Re: Postmodern Grin without a...)

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1584] Re: Re: Postmodern Grin without a..., el 9 Sep 00, a las 19:31, Louis Proyect dijo: Forget that stuff. Forget reading. Hell, forget thinking. Better just to make leaflets. Doug Speaking as someone who composed leaflets for demonstrations against the war in

Re: Re: Leaflets

2000-09-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1588] Re: Leaflets , el 9 Sep 00, a las 20:03, Carrol Cox dijo: Leaflet writing is in fact a literary specialty in its own right, strongly linked with journalism and editorializing. Good leaflets can be excellent editorials in a newspaper, and good editorials in a

Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Not only Brad DeLong but also Mike Kearney. OK, politics is a long exercise in patience... As Toussaint Louverture said: "La France entiére vient contre nous!" Will answer to just two basic assertions here, which are the only ones that matter. As to condemnation of "militarism", won't return

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Argentina/GDP (2)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1448] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Argentina/GD, el 7 Sep 00, a las 22:12, Brad DeLong dijo: The first hyperinflation was a coup d'etat. It was provoked intentionally (there are proofs and declarations in this sense, as well as there are others on the milder hyperinflation

Malvinas (2)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1449] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 7 Sep 00, a las 22:26, Brad DeLong dijo: I think this is--as a result of the reference to the Argentine Junta's attempt to conquer the Malvinas Islands, and unintentionally on Nestor's part--game and set to me A lot of

Re: Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1460] Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A sligh, el 8 Sep 00, a las 4:51, Brad De Long dijo: Here's a song for lovers of liberty: La Marseillaise. Yoshie Touche... It *has* always made me feel a little bit creepy... Yes, of course, because it does not come from a

Re: Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1459] Re: Imperialist progressivism (was R, el 8 Sep 00, a las 4:46, Brad De Long dijo: So Galtieri's strategy would have worked: the domestic opposition on the left would have forgotten his crimes and thrown their support behind his regime--if only he had won his

Re: Imperialist progressivism (was Re: Thatcher and nationalism)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear Michael Kearney, I apologize for my harshness on you. It is evident that you are interested in discussion, not in deploying your wisdom on me as Brad does. So that excuse me if, for the time being, I cannot answer to your posting (by the way, I am afraid that we are getting too far away

Re: Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight advantage of poverty)

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1454] Aux armes citoyens! (was A slight ad, el 8 Sep 00, a las 3:16, Yoshie Furuhashi dijo: Here's a song for lovers of liberty: La Marseillaise. Militant patriotism at its most full-blooded. Nestor's description of an Argentine nationalist icon sounds serene, with

Re: RE: Re: Argentina/GDP (2)

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1362] RE: Re: Argentina/GDP (2), el 7 Sep 00, a las 11:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: Nestor. What was the cause(s) of the hyperinflation in 1990? As always, you will have different answers from the different classes in conflict. In 1990, the hyperinflation had little to

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1354] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight, el 6 Sep 00, a las 16:25, Brad DeLong dijo: It is too long a story, but there has never existed a single "habit of obedience" to those generals. Fear and hatred was what there existed and exists. People here has never equated

Re: Globalization and Argentine Health Care

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1367] Globalization and Argentine Health C, el 6 Sep 00, a las 20:37, Ken Hanly dijo: The Washington Post August 25, 2000; Page A01 Doctor's Suicide Strikes at Heart Of Argentina's Health Care Crisis By Anthony Faiola BUENOS AIRES, Aug. 24 -- After a light lunch

Re: RE: Re: Pomocanadianism

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1391] RE: Re: Pomocanadianism, el 7 Sep 00, a las 9:25, Nicole Seibert dijo: Hi - Has anyone thought to compare Canada with Norway or Taiwan or Austria (?) or Ireland or Scotland? -Nico Comparisons may be a good way to begin a research, and a superior device when the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Australia

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1395] Re: Re: Re: Australia, el 8 Sep 00, a las 1:29, Rob Schaap dijo: G'day Nestor, In their attempt to keep our betters at the Bank of England happey, Australia's Scullin government agreed to give Otto free reign over 'our' finances in June of 1930. The bastard

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Argentina/GDP (2)

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Well, so it seems that Brad DeLong and yours truly will begin to cash some income from people watching our wrestling routine. I suggest Brad to write me offlist in order to arrange details... En relación a [PEN-L:1400] Re: Re: RE: Re: Argentina/GDP (2), el 7 Sep 00, a las 6:40, Brad De Long

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, adv

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1399] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: , el 7 Sep 00, a las 6:30, Brad De Long dijo: En relación a [PEN-L:1354] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight, el 6 Sep 00, a las 16:25, Brad DeLong dijo: It is too long a story, but there has never existed a single "habit

Re: Re: Re: Argentina

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
to Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky for those very illuminating posts on Argentina. Excellent idea. Interested, Nestor? Doug Let us arrange details on private mail. Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Re: Australia

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1430] Re: Re: Australia, el 7 Sep 00, a las 20:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: I have followed this thread with some interest in part because I teach Canadian Economic History, in part because I have done some comparative work comparing Australia and Canada (shameless

An explanation

2000-09-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Now I realize that Doug took my remark on the capitals of Canada and Argentina seriously. I was being ironic. Sorry, e-mail is not the place to engage on such adventures, and less of all in a language that is not yours. Of course that I am the first to admit that the "striking similitudes"

Re: Re: Pomocanadianism

2000-09-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1304] Re: Pomocanadianism, el 5 Sep 00, a las 21:58, Bill Burgess dijo: Doug wrote: This seems a bit overstated - not from the point of view of Argentina, but the parallel to Canada. Canada may be under the shadow of the U.S., but it is a rich G7 country and the

Re: Argentina/GDP

2000-09-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1333] Argentina/GDP, el 6 Sep 00, a las 13:39, Louis Proyect dijo: World Bank stats report amazing growth in Argentina - from about 14% of US per capita GDP (cash basis, not PPP) in 1990 to 28% today.The IMF reports an annual growth rate of about 5% between 1990 and 1999

Re: Argentina and the US

2000-09-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1344] Argentina and the US, el 6 Sep 00, a las 13:34, Jim Devine dijo: someone wrote: Doug is right IMHO. Canada and Australia are the best examples of what could have happened with Argentina if we were not a semicolony, such as we are. There were wild dreams in

Re: Re: Australia

2000-09-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1348] Re: Australia, el 6 Sep 00, a las 15:16, Brad De Long dijo: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine Yeah. But the British treated Australia as a source of wool and mutton, and Canada as a source of wheat and beef. Being a Dominion

Re: Argentina and the US (some corrections)

2000-09-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1344] Argentina and the US, el 6 Sep 00, a las 13:34, Jim Devine dijo: I don't know enough to comment on Canada (especially when there are Canadians watching), but I can guess at the difference between the US and Argentina (and I hope that Nestor corrects me or adds

Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Interne

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1209] Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of po, el 3 Sep 00, a las 11:00, Brad De Long dijo: En relación a [PEN-L:1168] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 2 Sep 00, a las 7:49, Brad De Long dijo: I would have thought that we would approve the replacement of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1218] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A slight advanta, el 4 Sep 00, a las 7:12, Brad De Long dijo: It is good to risk one's own life for revolution. And in the battlefield (I ignore if you have ever had that experience, even that of the modest battlefield of a square where your

Re: Re: Pomocanadianism

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1253] Re: Pomocanadianism, el 4 Sep 00, a las 16:40, Ken Hanly dijo: Well there is the official capital Ottawa and the actual capital Washington. Except for the likes of Bill Burgess :) Cheers, Ken Hanly Similitudes between Canada and Argentina are striking. We

Re: Re: A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Internet)

2000-09-03 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1168] Re: A slight advantage of poverty (w, el 2 Sep 00, a las 7:49, Brad De Long dijo: I would have thought that we would approve the replacement of nationalist-militarist iconography--that you win honor by killing others and dying for your hierarchical

A slight advantage of poverty (was Re: Random thoughts on Big Brother, advertising and the Internet)

2000-09-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1109] Random thoughts on Big Brother, adve, el 1 Sep 00, a las 10:56, Louis Proyect dijo: This is what our life has become in these best of times. Big brother in the workplace, commercials everywhere you look and war in the hinterlands. The ad smallpox has been

Re: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: post-autistic economics newsletter, No.1]

2000-09-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1156] Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: post-autistic econ, el 2 Sep 00, a las 11:32, Carrol Cox dijo: Max Sawicky wrote: One recalls the ancient controversy about the classist use of the term "pig" to describe police officers. Yes. An Iowa hog farmer wrote to New Left

Re: Airline crashes and electromagnetic interference

2000-08-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1093] Airline crashes and electromagnetic , el 31 Aug 00, a las 19:55, Louis Proyect dijo: Such military warning zones are, of course, often unused by the military, and during such unused periods can be entered by civilian flights. But the record of scheduled military

Re: Airline crashes and electromagnetic interference

2000-08-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:1023] Airline crashes and electromagnetic , el 31 Aug 00, a las 11:20, Louis Proyect dijo: Elaine Scarry ... does not feel that it is only a coincidence that these two airplanes, which fell from the skies after seemingly inexplicable catastrophic explosions, departed

Re: Re: Re: Re: Wage Determination: was Crapulism: a side bet

2000-08-21 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:698] Re: Re: Re: Wage Determination: was C, el 21 Aug 00, a las 14:07, Carrol Cox dijo: Greed is essentially a feudal not a capitalist vice. and its use even in casual agitation often backfires. The very concept of vice is un-capitalist in the sense that it implies some

Re: Re: Re: now you know

2000-08-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:519] Re: Re: now you know, el 10 Aug 00, a las 22:42, Shane Mage dijo: Zinoviev and Kamenev were communists--weak, vacillating, capitulating communists, but communists nonetheless. And Stalin? No communist at all--always an Okhranik infiltrator, certainly in his way

Re: Progress in the markeplace of ideas

2000-08-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:551] Progress in the markeplace of ideas, el 11 Aug 00, a las 13:34, Michael Perelman dijo: A UNION AGAINST THE PERSECUTION IN ECONOMICS UBA. I have informed, in Spanish, of this. You can have a look at the archives of the Marxmail or L-I lists. Pablo Levin is a far

Re: now you know

2000-08-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:531] now you know, el 11 Aug 00, a las 10:51, Charles Brown dijo: CB: This is not a very deep point. What about the British and other monoarchies ? There are all kinds of cults of personality in non-fascist bourgeois countries and systems. Worse yet, the cult to

Re: Re: Re: Financial time bomb in Russia

2000-08-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:363] Re: Re: Financial time bomb in Russia, el 7 Aug 00, a las 7:28, Jim Devine dijo: At 07:47 AM 08/07/2000 +0100, you wrote: Presumably stabilising this oligarch capitalism is the stuff of the strange skirmishings in Russia between the centralising tendencies of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Financial time bomb in Russia

2000-08-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:373] Re: Re: Re: Re: Financial time bomb i, el 7 Aug 00, a las 9:19, Jim Devine dijo: I'm surprised that no-one on the list has mentioned the fact that the word "Putin" means "whore" in French. Parfois, parce qu'on dit "putaine", pas "putin", mon cher ami...

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: irrrational (feminist) expectations

2000-08-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:98] Re: Re: Re: Re: irrrational (feminist), el 1 Aug 00, a las 16:49, Charles Brown dijo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01/00 04:12PM "Communism is Twenthieth Century Americanism" may have been an extreme version of this approach, but it is the right direction.

Re: what is 'orange'?Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: rational expectations

2000-08-01 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:37] what is 'orange'?Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: R, el 31 Jul 00, a las 12:33, Stephen E Philion dijo: el 31 Jul 00, a las 9:48, Stephen E Philion dijo: Nestor's sounding pretty orange these days... Steve Since the quip is on myself, what is this of "sounding

Re: Re: Re: rational expectations

2000-07-30 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:2] Re: Re: rational expectations, el 30 Jul 00, a las 6:18, Doug Henwood dijo: Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: What does this say about the "male list" of economists? Dunno, but I've never noticed that a lack of confidence was one of your own personal characteristics. I

Re: query

2000-07-26 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:22198] query, el 26 Jul 00, a las 9:59, Rudy Fichtenbaum dijo: Is anyone aware of any empirical studies on the tendency for the rate of profit to equalize across industries over time? Rudy DUMÉNIL, Gérard; LÉVY, Dominique. The field of capital mobility and the

Correction to Re: Re: kargarlitsky on Russian sociology etc.

2000-07-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:22176] Re: kargarlitsky on Russian sociolo, el 24 Jul 00, a las 21:12, Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: Where I wrote, ... We should not forget that, historically, emulation with the West emptied Soviet ideology of that basic component of Lenin's (and Stalin's

ColOmbia (was Re: Re: Fwd: Columbia)

2000-07-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [PEN-L:22191] Re: Fwd: Columbia, el 25 Jul 00, a las 15:22, Carrol Cox dijo: This will be the first revolutionary war of the last century in which the insurgent forces have no external support. So "experts" in Washington may believe that the precedent they are following is

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