has yogi berra had anything to say on matter...
Uh, he's still alive? I quote him all the time :) (mostly to myself.)
Joanna
Michael Hoover wrote:
has yogi berra had anything to say on matter...
: [PEN-L] Allen Barra defends Limbaugh's football comments
Uh, he's still alive? I quote him all the time :) (mostly to myself.)
Joanna
Michael Hoover wrote:
has yogi berra had anything to say on matter...
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I saw Yogi in an ad on TV recently.
go Cubs!
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...and they give you cash, which is almost as good as money!
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Seth Sandronsky
Re: Allen Barra defends Limbaugh's football comments
by Martin Hart-Landsberg
06 October 2003
Michael,
I would love to learn more about the notion that basketball was a
jewish sport. Any reading recommendations?
Marty
--On Monday, October 06, 2003 8:39 AM -0700 Michael Perelman
Michael Perelman wrote:
Welcome to America! You might also add that the people popping off about
overrated quarterbacks were not athletes themselves.
indeed! btw, is it not true that the quarterback has some sort of
wireless communication with the coach at all times? does the coach feed
him
ravi writes:
btw, is it not true that the quarterback has some sort of
wireless communication with the coach at all times? does the
coach feed
him instructions at all times?
I don't know if they're in wireless contact or not, but it sure looks that way. I
remember reading a short story
The wireless is only to give instructions between plays. Before that they
used hand signals.
As for basketball, the NBA evolved out of traveling Jewish teams. In the
20's, basketball was supposed to be a naturally Jewish sport because it
put a premium on sneakiness and stealth.
On Mon, Oct 06,
Yes, they are in contact. If one team's wireless does not work, the other team has
to shut its system down.
Devine, James wrote:
ravi writes:
btw, is it not true that the quarterback has some sort of
wireless communication with the coach at all times? does the
coach feed
him
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Allen Barra defends Limbaugh's football comments
Yes, they are in contact. If one team's wireless does not work, the other team has
to shut
Michael,
I would love to learn more about the notion that basketball was a
jewish sport. Any reading recommendations?
Marty
--On Monday, October 06, 2003 8:39 AM -0700 Michael Perelman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for basketball, the NBA evolved out of traveling Jewish teams. In
the 20's,
I don't have a source. The Celtics and the 76ers were originally Jewish
teams, that eventually took on some Irish and Black players. Even after
the Jewish influence on the court subsided, the coaches were still Jewish.
Red Auerbach, Red Holtzman, Dolf Shays.
When I was young, the head of the
Racial stereotypes and how these connect with sports are hillarious. The
last time I watched football was during my first marriage (25 years
ago). This was partly to keep hubby company and partly because he liked
sex at half-time, but not much at any other time. Back then, there were
no black
Hey, boxing was a Jewish sport in the '30s and '40s, maybe before.
Baseball seems to be revealing a genetic advantage in the Dominican
Republic.
Gene
Martin Hart-Landsberg wrote:
Michael,
I would love to learn more about the notion that basketball was a
jewish sport. Any reading
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so, let me see if i understand this right... first some journalists take
a good player and hype him up. then one of them turns around and says
'oh, look, this guy is over-rated' and just for good measure slips in
that the reason it is so is that the
Welcome to America! You might also add that the people popping off about
overrated quarterbacks were not athletes themselves.
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:38:47PM -0400, ravi wrote:
so, let me see if i understand this right... first some journalists take
a good player and hype him up. then
Actually it's kind of interesting:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2089193/
Barra is not a racist. And he is not denying that Limbaugh is. (On which
point, see http://www.fair.org/articles/limbaugh-color.html) He's just
saying Limbaugh is quite right on the facts in this case. The only
difference is
Michael,
I thought the Allan Barra piece was pretty good, till I got to this
sentence near the end:
Rush Limbaugh didn't say Donovan McNabb was a bad quarterback because
he is black. He said that the media have overrated McNabb because he
is black, and Limbaugh is right.
The media over-rate a
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Eugene Coyle wrote:
I thought the Allan Barra piece was pretty good, till I got to this
sentence near the end:
Rush Limbaugh didn't say Donovan McNabb was a bad quarterback because
he is black. He said that the media have overrated McNabb because he
is black, and
Part of why McNabb is overrated might be because he's black. But a lot
of it, and maybe most of it, is surely simply because he was a superstar
in college, he's paid a lot, the fans like him personally and his team
wins.
Also I left out the most important one: he's physically more exciting
A good quarterback cannot operate alone. Without a solid backup from the
rest of the offense, the quarterback will get hammered.
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 06:30:09PM -0400, Michael Pollak wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Eugene Coyle wrote:
I thought the Allan Barra piece was pretty good, till I got
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Michael Perelman wrote:
A good quarterback cannot operate alone.
Absolutely. But the point is that the mindset that identifies him with
victory is nothing new. McNabb is the beneficiary of a long tradition.
As Brecht put it in his poem, A Worker Reads History: Alexander
This wanders far from the original focus of this thread, but is perhaps
distantly related. I listened on the radio to the Ali-Liston fight in
which Ali won the title. Afterwards the reporters were trying to
interview Ali, and this led to the greatest radio episode ever. Ali
refused to answer any
Carrol Cox wrote:
This wanders far from the original focus of this thread, but is perhaps
distantly related. I listened on the radio to the Ali-Liston fight in
which Ali won the title. Afterwards the reporters were trying to
interview Ali, and this led to the greatest radio episode ever. Ali
But sports pages have some of the best writing in the newspapers.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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